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#176
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I don't mind she dissed my space pirate shepard when he came calling again. He's a scamp who deserved it.

I do mind her new hair. Get a cut.

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vanslyke85 wrote...

What do you guys think??

After playing ME2 and seeing how Ash acted when seeing me (I let Kaidan die every time) there is no way I will be romancing her in ME3 at all.  What in the hell did she expect Shepherd to do after he DIED?  Come back to life for the sole purpose of finding her.  After Cerberus miraculously brought him back and nobody would give any info on where Ash was, there was nothing to do but prepare for the reapers.  Not waste time searching every planet in every star system for her.  If she's so obsessed with the military and all that garbage she should understand priorities a little better.  She'll be a welcome squadmember for ME3 but I won't be over friendly with her.  unless she looks better than Miranda that is...:P


After Horizon, she sends you an email apologising. It's essentially a stripped down version of what Liara says if you romanced her. It indicates that she will be more receptive in ME3, depending if you romanced any of the ME2 girls is my guess.

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008Zulu wrote...

vanslyke85 wrote...

What do you guys think??

After playing ME2 and seeing how Ash acted when seeing me (I let Kaidan die every time) there is no way I will be romancing her in ME3 at all.  What in the hell did she expect Shepherd to do after he DIED?  Come back to life for the sole purpose of finding her.  After Cerberus miraculously brought him back and nobody would give any info on where Ash was, there was nothing to do but prepare for the reapers.  Not waste time searching every planet in every star system for her.  If she's so obsessed with the military and all that garbage she should understand priorities a little better.  She'll be a welcome squadmember for ME3 but I won't be over friendly with her.  unless she looks better than Miranda that is...:P


After Horizon, she sends you an email apologising. It's essentially a stripped down version of what Liara says if you romanced her. It indicates that she will be more receptive in ME3, depending if you romanced any of the ME2 girls is my guess.


Ash only sends an email if you romanced her in ME1.  I never did so I never got an email.  It's cool that she sends one if you were her LI though.  That makes it better.

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Id rather see how kaidan's been revamped.

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vanslyke85 wrote...

Yea I thought she'd have some armor for battle. maybe that's just for the trailer/demo though. she may be trying to compete with miranda though...


Why do you guys always assume shes competeing with someone shes never met? I mean seriously...aside from that she don't really seem the type to give a s*** what other women look like. The fact of the matter is...they couldn't wait for her creator to leave Bioware so they would tear her apart and build her into another freakin sex symbol...as if there aren't enough already.

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skcih-deraj wrote...

Here we go again...

Well how is Kaiden/ Ashley supposed to act after Shepard comes back after two years? Were they supposed to be ok with you being with Cerberus and just drop evey thing to join you?

I say the way they reacted was reasonable.


Exactly!

Besides, who would believe that a person realy died and was just brought back to life again. They would felt betrayed and thus they would accuse Shep of such.

Guys and girls, just get yourself into Kaidan/Ashley shoes for few minutes and you should understand... if you dont... well... maybe you will in few years.

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Her new look is absolutely ridiculous. I am not sure if you are serious with her BiowEAr. Does she still believe in God or she is gonna be that bisexual hot sidekick of Shepard? I wouldnt be surprised.

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Double post

Modifié par Babli, 07 juin 2011 - 01:03 .


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Babli wrote...

Her new look is absolutely ridiculous. I am not sure if you are serious with her BiowEAr. Does she still believe in God or she is gonna be that bisexual hot sidekick of Shepard? I wouldnt be surprised.


omg...Miranda AND DA2?......the worst of both worlds.....I can see BiowEAre doing that.

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kylecouch wrote...

vanslyke85 wrote...

Yea I thought she'd have some armor for battle. maybe that's just for the trailer/demo though. she may be trying to compete with miranda though...


Why do you guys always assume shes competeing with someone shes never met? I mean seriously...aside from that she don't really seem the type to give a s*** what other women look like. The fact of the matter is...they couldn't wait for her creator to leave Bioware so they would tear her apart and build her into another freakin sex symbol...as if there aren't enough already.


It was a joke...obviously in a save-the-galaxy scenario your not going to worry about if your butt looks nicer than the other hot girls

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I see...well many on these boards have said that and meant it on many occasions...assumeing everyone cheats on Ashely with Miranda.

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Ive only done 2 playthroughs of ME1 and romanced Liara each time, during 8 playthroughs of ME2 I've remained faithful to her only twice. I wanna see what ME3 is like with different LI's.

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Shanya wrote...

skcih-deraj wrote...

Here we go again...

Well how is Kaiden/ Ashley supposed to act after Shepard comes back after two years? Were they supposed to be ok with you being with Cerberus and just drop evey thing to join you?

I say the way they reacted was reasonable.


Exactly!

Besides, who would believe that a person realy died and was just brought back to life again. They would felt betrayed and thus they would accuse Shep of such.

Guys and girls, just get yourself into Kaidan/Ashley shoes for few minutes and you should understand... if you dont... well... maybe you will in few years.


I like this person... he understandsImage IPB

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 Fanboys gonna be mad, I'm gonna be a total dick to Ash just for this fanboy bs:devil:

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Err... my Shepard said the wrong things. I mean the writers should of wrote better lines than what we got.

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azerSheppard wrote...

 Fanboys gonna be mad, I'm gonna be a total dick to Ash just for this fanboy bs:devil:


Whatever floats your boat, dude.

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Despite poking fun at Ashley on these forums, I actually liked her in ME1, but as the question was "will I choose her as my LI" or whatever, on my main playthrough no. I'll continue with Liara.

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its not just Horizon....even if you blame that scene as bad writing there is one major fact against Ash
Liara despite her revenge rage did stick with Shep and supported him from the point Normandy was blown up to the ending od ME2; Recovering his body & fighting for it, caring for Shep in the DLC......

Ashly didnt move a finger and we know now she will be a Spectre later on; For what ? hiding behing a uniform, poems and prayers ? Ts that a LI a galactic hero whants ? the fact shes hotter in ME3 doesnt change the past deeds

Besides who says every protagonist in ME needs to be positive; Garrus , Liara changed for the better Ash not; since she was my Li it made a dilema; So yes it was a good thing

Modifié par Kolos2, 08 juin 2011 - 09:53 .


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You still forget that Liara knew about Shepard's body. Ashley could only grow frustrated during few months fed with rumors from Cerberus. Nobody expects anyone to be back from dead. It's impossible in that universe same as in ours.

Modifié par AkodoRyu, 08 juin 2011 - 10:01 .


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true (even if this didnt stop Liara to not let go) but as far as ME2 goes Ash moved on, since other that the email you had no contact with her. I imagine the timeframe is now even greater

Modifié par Kolos2, 08 juin 2011 - 01:09 .


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kylecouch wrote...

MisterJB wrote...

By creating Biotics we get better soldiers, less humans will die if we have to go to war with one of the other races. Biotics also allow us to expand our interests in the Galaxy, pressure the Council to give us more worlds to colonize, thus giving better quality of life to thousand of humans.
Grey

For the record, I do not aprove of forcing the tests on Toombs but it's justifiable if, in the future, all humans are able to withstand acid.
I wouldn't foce those experiments on anyone but it's still a grey area.
Maybe I'm not a moral person but I also have lines I wouldn't cross.

And there are other examples I mentioned.
Experimenting on Husks and Creeper allows us to create expendable troops which would save many human lifes. Husks and Creepers are already dead, how is that not a grey area?
As long as we don't purposelly turn them into such, ofc.


And by "exposeing" these unborn children to eezo...you lose more lives to cancer and whatever else it causes then you save by having a few extra biotics around. Also for the record...ALL Husks were once organic lifeforms...they can't just be mass produced on an assembly line to be used as shock troops unless you have a whole field of Dragon's Teeth to sacrifice people to the cause.

Clearly they don't want Shepard dead? ME3's calling...it wants to speak to you...

For the record...The Allience didn't ground Shepard...Ambassador Udina did just to score bonus points in his endless attempts to be named the first human councilor.
These actions are not very "Grey"...Templars VS Mages before DA2 came out was "Grey"...because both sides were correct. However DA2 only proves the Templar's right...but thats another issue...

You have to keep in mind....the Allience don't know everything the player does...they don't have an omiscent third person perpesctive...in fact The Allience knows little to nothing about what Shepard is doing. They have NO IDEA what happend during the events of Arrivel...all they know is that Shepard blew up a Mass Relay and killed 300,000 people....which alone without context sounds like terrorism...so a trial I think is being leanient. 

Yes...Shepard was right about Saren...however that was supported by undenyable evidence...He was right about the Geth attack on the Citadel...but again theres evidence due to the Geth being all over the place in Council Space through-out...Not to mention two previous assaults on colonys and the discovery of a top seceret base with a Krogan army. 

However...Shepard has NEVER been able to actually PROVE the Reaper's exsist...from their perspective hes just running around like Paul Reveir screaming "The Reaper's are Coming The Reaper's are Coming!!" However he has nothing to actually PROVE this...if he did the Council and Allience would be MORE then happy to do everything in their power to take precautions. Sure Soverign attacked the Citadel...however they told you since most of the ship was basiclly stolen before they would recover it makes verifiying it's origins damn near impossible...what WAS found resembled Geth technology...and considering the Geth are capable of amazeing technological advancments it only made sence given their situation. Now granted...if the Asari Counsilor would just mind meld with Shepard all of this would be avoided, but sadly the logical option isn't available. 

Also the Quarians have every right in the universe to hate Cerberus guts...which tranlates very poorly into the ease Tali has of docking...TIM just plain and simply don't give a s*** about the cost of his actions and thinks ANY price is worth it. He freely admitted his experiments on Paul was about personal revenge for betrayel. The attack on the Migrant Fleet as another selfish move by TIM to re-secure a valuable "asset"...he didn't give a flying **** about the fallout it might cause...they just go in guns blazeing. TIM said "Diplomacy is great when it works" yet never even attempts it. Many people think what Shepard says at the end of the game is moronic and stupid. "I'll do it without sacrificeing the soul of our species to do it" and just counter with a response like "Cerberus aren't the Reapers so STFU" is basicly the response. Many fail to realize how important Shepards sentament is...if your willing to  just forgo ALL ethics and morals to achive progress what is the point of fighting? If you use the methods of your enemies in order to defeat your enemies your no better than them. 

The Allience "abadoning" those colonists? I beg to differ...they deliberatly LEFT The Allience because they don't "like how they do things". The Allience has no obligation to assist people who want nothing to do with them, however they attempted to help Horizen regardless. Not to mention the Allience investigates every single attacked colony trying to figure out wtf is going on. The Allience does not act because they don't know where to start...Cerberus however does...and absolutely refuses to tell The Allience any damn thing, despite the fact they have spies in every level of The Allience government (or so they claim). Also they don't "Shoot Shepard down". Shepard didn't actually bring Veetor's data with him to prove any of it. So again it falls on a lack of proof.  


Wow!...This is a brilliant post Kylecouch....applauding so hard my hands are hurting...:wizard:.....In all seriousness, you have hit the nail on the head with a sledge hammer, very well thought out and written...Thank you.

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Weiser_Cain wrote...

If I'm out of my mind Ash, why don't you help me? If I'm being manipulated why run away and leave me with a bunch of terrorists?


This^ would have been perfect.

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MegaBadExample wrote...

Err... my Shepard said the wrong things. I mean the writers should of wrote better lines than what we got.


yes i was a little disappointed we didnt atleast get one charm/intim option, shepard choice of words were so aweful.

convo in a nutshell.
shepard : hey ash, long time no see.
ashley : thats all you have to say? wtf you work for cerberus
shepard : get over it ash, we are after the collectors
ashley : i didnt want to believe you came back like this
shepard : tough luck... joker ive had enough of this colony

after my first playthru of ME2 i was like, "uhhhhh!? i guess she aint comin back to the ship."
i was so excited to see ashley again in the sequal, but shepard fails so hard at that convo. i personally couldnt blame ashley for how she felt, when she was getting mad i was all "if could blow up cerberus and join alliance with you i would!!"

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AkodoRyu wrote...
You still forget that Liara knew about Shepard's body. Ashley could only grow frustrated during few months fed with rumors from Cerberus. Nobody expects anyone to be back from dead. It's impossible in that universe same as in ours.


I have often wondered why Liara never told your old crew that Cerberus has Shepard's body.

Still, after the fight with her on Horizon, I am looking forward to the make-up sex :lol:.

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008Zulu wrote...

AkodoRyu wrote...
You still forget that Liara knew about Shepard's body. Ashley could only grow frustrated during few months fed with rumors from Cerberus. Nobody expects anyone to be back from dead. It's impossible in that universe same as in ours.


I have often wondered why Liara never told your old crew that Cerberus has Shepard's body.


Well after seeing the V.S. reaction to your working with Cerberus how do you think they'd respond to Liara handing over your corpse to be mutilated by Cerberus on the off chance they could put Humpty Dumpty back together?  Particularly if you romanced the V.S.?  I give Liara all the credit she's due, but I don't see that confrontation going very well for her.

Modifié par DPSSOC, 09 juin 2011 - 01:17 .