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[yaw]

There's so many different outcomes concerning Morrigan's child, that without forcing a canon path, surely he'll never actually make an actual proper appearence outside of a cameo?

I mean, here are all the different possiblites (spoilers, obviously):

- Morrigan's ritual is refused, she leaves and never has a child
- Morrigan's ritual is refused, she leaves and has a normal child with the Warden, not one with an Old God soul
- Morrigan's ritual is accepted, she has the Old God child with The Warden
- Morrigan's ritual is accepted, she has the Old God child with Alistair
- Morrigan's ritual is accepted, she has the Old God child with Loghain

Obviously if he's going to be a big part of any game in the future, he'll have to be the Old God child, right? So... would'nt that f--- with all the people who refused her ritual, left her childless, and even died becasue of it when she turns up with the Old God child in tow?

I just don't see how he can ever be central to any future plot unless it is made canon that she did indeed have the child, and it has the Old God soul. And if that happens, it will completely mess up all the stories of people who didn't go through with the ritual.

So, erm, will the whole idea be scrapped? Or will the story just be closed off with a brief cameo or reference?

Modifié par yaw, 01 juin 2011 - 02:06 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Yea without canonization (which I wouldn't reject on principle), I don't see the OGB being that important.

Though quite frankly, I don't think the writers knew where they were headed, when they gave us all those choices.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 01 juin 2011 - 02:14 .

[yaw]

 I love choices, and the more the better, but they seriously have to start planning ahead. I'd rather be restricted to one or two paths than have loads, when they will only be taken away from me at a later date.

I went through with the ritual and let Morrigan go, so even if they do canonize it, it wouldn't affect my main character. But I still care about the other choices.

Modifié par yaw, 01 juin 2011 - 02:28 .

[Corker]

As a player who took the US for my main playthrough, *I'd* prefer that they canonize OGB as well. I already couldn't import that save into Awakening; I can't 'play all the way through' with that Warden anyhow. I'd rather imagine her in an alternate Thedas that isn't explored by the franchise than see that the results of the ritual she gave her life to avoid reduced to a dinky sidequest.

But it felt like, with Witch Hunt's reference to Flemeth wanting the OGB as "a herald," the importance of a child with the soul of an Old God was already being downplayed. Perhaps Flemeth had a different reason for sending Morrigan with the Wardens, but needed Morrigan to believe in the necessity of OGB? I'm having some difficulty imagining a plot where this would make sense, but if it could be done well, I could live with my Warden having been fooled by Flemeth's manipulations.

[Shadow of Light Dragon]

Alistairlover94 wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Yea without canonization (which I wouldn't reject on principle), I don't see the OGB being that important.

Though quite frankly, I don't think the writers knew where they were headed, when they gave us all those choices.

Which can clearly be evidenced in DA2. I think that's probably why they rail-roaded us so much. What I don't understand is why they would give us the option to warn Cullen about Anders' scheming against the chantry, then for that option to be completely ignored.

Here it is, in all its facepalming glory:

That's not ALL its facepalming glory. XD Warn him about Anders when Anders isn't in the group, and Cullen will say that he will send some of his men to apprehend the apostate 'shortly'.

Hah.

[Satyricon331]

Corker wrote...
As a player who took the US for my main playthrough, *I'd* prefer that they canonize OGB as well. I already couldn't import that save into Awakening; I can't 'play all the way through' with that Warden anyhow.

Just so you know, you can import a US Warden into Awakening and still retain your US.  I've seen people on the forums say it changes your decision to a DR ending, but it's not true:

David Sims of Bioware says:

If you import an ultimate sacrifice warden into Awakening and then into DA2, all of your choices will be recognized, or at least recorded for future recognition. To avoid the contradiction, we are deliberately vague about who the "Warden Commander" was whenever referencing choices made in Awakening. That is true regardless of what you import.

Also, on topic, if Bioware doesn't make the father matter, then there'd be only three scenarios to work in.  If a non-OGB baby miscarried/etc., then all it would need would be a line to differentiate it from the first scenario, meaning there'd be only two real ones to deal with.

I'd like to think they knew where they were going... although yeah, it's becoming increasingly implausible they did.

[Arthur Cousland]

That's the bad thing with having so many choices, as only one or two can actually carry on through the sequel.

I suppose Morrigan's baby can make a future appearance, if they don't specify who the father is. There are plenty of wardens out there after Origins.

[Chuvvy]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Yea without canonization (which I wouldn't reject on principle), I don't see the OGB being that important.

Though quite frankly, I don't think the writers knew where they were headed, when they gave us all those choices.

Oh God, it's Lost all over again.

[LilyasAvalon]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Yea without canonization (which I wouldn't reject on principle), I don't see the OGB being that important.

Though quite frankly, I don't think the writers knew where they were headed, when they gave us all those choices.

Agreeing with this, they obviously didn't plan for a much larger, grand scale plot until Awakening (Evident because of what happens to the Warden in any epilogue). But since we are heading there now, I do think the God Child is canon now, regardless. It doesn't HAVE to be the Warden/Alistair/Loghain's child after all.... and Morrigan is Flemmeth's daughter, I'm pretty sure trapping the spirit of an Ancient God isn't THAT hard... we'll just get Luigi's vaccum.

[TimeMaster98]

Alright, I think I got it, morrigan has a child but the DR is about limiting it's power or the OGB can be replaced with Justice, he's survived being "killed" before and he seems the type to take up the Mage freedom thing. All they need is to get morrigan pregnant. If they do that then we're golden for a both canon and non-canon OGB. Consider my idea, Bioware, just give me a good game

Modifié par TimeMaster98, 30 octobre 2013 - 04:58 .

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

It'll be swept under the rug like everything else from DA:O, just like ME1 was swept under the rug in Mass Effect 2.  Just being a realist.

[TimeMaster98]

Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

It'll be swept under the rug like everything else from DA:O, just like ME1 was swept under the rug in Mass Effect 2.  Just being a realist.

That was almost an entirely different team so it doesn't apply to DA. Also, DA2 was meant to be a bridge between Origins and Inquisition and also so you can see Mages and Templars at their worst, it was meant as an information supplement more then an actual game where you see ALL you're choices from the last DA effect everything