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[dpixie87]

Wow, that really does make a difference. Um.. *adds my apology to the pile*
Though whoever redesigned Zevran doesn't get that excuse though!

[Ninotchka]

errant_knight wrote...



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Close but no cigar....

Although the lighting helps, it most certainly does not (enitrely) bring back the original Alistair. The tip of the nose is too wide as is the gap between the top lip and nose. The eyes are are a bit iffy too - they're lacking something...perhaps soul...perhaps that cheekiness and gorgeousness that is (was) Alistair.
Even with the lighting trick, DAII Alistair just doesn't ring true, neither does Anders...my heart is broke:crying:

Modifié par Ninotchka, 02 juin 2011 - 01:19 .

[Merilsell]

Wow...so let me get this right. They have put (indeed) much effort into recreating Alistair as close as possible with the new, veeery limited DA2-morph system (as seen as above) only to ruin this effort completely with craptastic lightening?

Yeah, that makes sense.

Modifié par Merilsell, 02 juin 2011 - 02:49 .

[JamieCOTC]

Wow, the lighting does make a profound difference!

[errant_knight]

*Salutes JamieCOTC and Queen-Of-Stuff*

[In Exile]

The nose isn't very different. The DA2 - DA:O face structure is just different. The CC builds faces differently.

[Furtled]

Ryzaki wrote...
Agreed on the underlined. 

Ahh I'm not putting any blame on the lighting department, these things happen - have you noticed the cloud shadows when you're outdoors in the game? It's rather lovely and I'm not even running on max settings.

[Chromie]

Fiddles_stix wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...

Hell Alistair was always ugly.




(Flame shield ON!)

Nothing can save you from an Alistair fan's flame

Seriously though it's amazing what a huge difference lighting makes plus his chin is upwardly inclined, I think that helps.

Why is this a surprise?! Look --->  www.youtube.com/watch

[Merilsell]

Ringo12 wrote...

Hell Alistair was always ugly.

(Flame shield ON!)

[Chiramu]

I want to ask Alistair's modeler why they changed his hair from the concept art :<. He looked so COOL in his concept art, and then the modeler decided to make him look like Fry from Futurama >.>.

WHYYYYYY?! The duck bottom haircut just makes him more and more like Fry!

http://popculturepla...ry-futurama.jpg

[Chromie]

Merilsell wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...

Hell Alistair was always ugly.

(Flame shield ON!)

That is so fetch 

[erynnar]

[quote]Ninotchka wrote...

[quote]errant_knight wrote...



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Sorry, he may look better than that potato head in shadows. But he looks like they tried to mix Cullen and Ali so he winds up not being handsome to me. Something's still off. *shrugs*

[Esbatty]

In this lighting he looks alot less "world weary". She did a good job putting him together in the DA2 CC. Now... the Morrigan head mop file someone discovered in the DA2 files, that could use a little more tweaking. She looks a bit too ... bright-eyed, not contemptable enough. But then again they didn't bother using it at all so maybe it just placeholder/preliminary.

[BlueMew]

Well, I had Warden Alistair, but he didn't look as good as in that picture. Hmm *saves image for future Photoshop reference* But it's the voice acting that does it for me, so I had little cause for complaints anyway.

[fightright2]

Ringo12 wrote...

Fiddles_stix wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...

Hell Alistair was always ugly.

(Flame shield ON!)

Nothing can save you from an Alistair fan's flame

Seriously though it's amazing what a huge difference lighting makes plus his chin is upwardly inclined, I think that helps.

Why is this a surprise?! Look --->  www.youtube.com/watch

Aww, you beat me to it! I just remembered and was going to link that! Good to see that someone remembered that, though.

[fightright2]

Ringo12 wrote...

Merilsell wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...

Hell Alistair was always ugly.

(Flame shield ON!)

That is so fetch 

Hey Ringo12,
Regina says:STOP TRYING TO MAKE 'FETCH' HAPPEN, ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!

[Fidget6]

 Oh wow, I never saw drunk Alistair in my playtrhough. Now that is one sad mug.   Yeah, lighting makes all the difference (this is true in real life too. Kind of how NO ONE looks good in bright office lighting.)

[Chromie]

fightright2 wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...

Fiddles_stix wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...

Hell Alistair was always ugly.

(Flame shield ON!)

Nothing can save you from an Alistair fan's flame 

Seriously though it's amazing what a huge difference lighting makes plus his chin is upwardly inclined, I think that helps.

Why is this a surprise?! Look --->  www.youtube.com/watch

Aww, you beat me to it! I just remembered and was going to link that! Good to see that someone remembered that, though.[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie]

Surprised it wasn't linked already!

Modifié par Ringo12, 03 juin 2011 - 05:08 .

[kglaser]

Am I the only one who didn't really notice a difference from Alistair's brief appearance in DA2? I thought he looked pretty similar. /shrug
*dons flame shield*

[neppakyo]

kglaser wrote...

Am I the only one who didn't really notice a difference from Alistair's brief appearance in DA2? I thought he looked pretty similar. /shrug
*dons flame shield*

Not really. DA2's CC is sucky compared to DAO's, so it makes uglier DAO characters.

[Foolsfolly]

errant_knight wrote...

Much complaint has been made about Alistair's appearance in DA2, and I was one of those complaining. Now, I also mentioned that I found the CC very limiting in the types of faces that were created, and that I wasn't sure better was possible, but I did complain greatly.

It now appears that this was both unjustified and unfair. In order to test his theory that lighting was the culprit here, not the character model, tmp7704 put Alistair's head on Ander's body and sent him out in the daylight. This was the result.



As you can see, he no longer looks old, tired and chunky. Within the limitations of the new engine, the modeler actually did a very good job. We just couldn't see it. Because of this, and because of aspersions I made toward her creation, I feel the need to make a personal apology.

I'm very sorry that I assumed that it was the model/morph which was at fault. I was entirely wrong, and offer my most sincere apologies. It must have been very difficult to hear us all saying bad things about your work, while knowing that the work you'd done was actually very good. Again, I apologize and also thank tmp7704 for pointing out this injustice.

::spits out coffee::

IT'S ALISTAIR! 

...damn, who knew lighting was so important?

[Vhardamis]

OK, I completely missed this thread. Add my apology as well. He looks a hell of a lot better in proper lighting. Remove that grey-ish tinge to everything and you can really see the better details.

I think drunk Alistair was supposed to be slightly more ruddy in complexion and you can see that as well now.

[ShepardFF7]

Holy cow, after seeing some of those pics, he DOES look old and bloated. Very much like William Shatner. Of course, it could all be Anoura's fault

[Cody211282]

In Exile wrote...



The nose isn't very different. The DA2 - DA:O face structure is just different. The CC builds faces differently.

Yea it gives them the Sarah Jessica Parker treatment.