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[ObserverStatus]

I don't see what the problem is, wouldn't it be more fun to actually swing at the television for renegade interrupts?

[bobspoland]

Who cares if its compatible with kinect? it's not going to replace my trusty mouse and keyborad

[Valcutio]

Everyone else on a dev team needs to work around new features. It bogs down development time, saps resources from different departments and influences the overall package. Saying anything else is a straight lie.

If Kinnect is in (and I have no reason to doubt it is) - it's probably the one and only reason that ME3 was delayed. Now we know why.

[streamlock]

I didn't really think they would actually use something I put in the "Stop bad ME games before they start" thread as inspiration for their next title.....frakin classic. I demand royalties!!

[Smilietime]

bobspoland wrote...

Who cares if its compatible with kinect? it's not going to replace my trusty mouse and keyborad

Yeah. I really, really don't care.

Everyone's just looking for an excuse for it to be "Ruined forever".

[Paraxial]

Well if this is true, I won't be using it because I don't own a Kinect. If it isn't true I won't be using it because it won't be available. Killzone 3 did this, and it didn't affect the gameplay very much for those who didn't use the move. For the two people that did, i'm sure it was very pleasant.

I dislike motion control gaming, I don't like flailing around in front of my TV or monitor to get my character to shake hands. But as long as it doesn't hinder gameplay for the many who don't want to use the feature, go crazy with it.

[streamlock]

I will buy the PC version, so the whole Kinect/PS motion thing doesn't really apply to me-but...

If I was a Bioware fanboi (which I'm not), I would be concerned about the motion control crap bringing down the overall rating of the game. Yeah, the IGN/Gamespy/Gamespot/PCGamer etc. reviews are bought and paid for via advertising dollars and 1st look exclusives-but for the rest it is going to get hammered.

Realistically, does anybody think the motion control can actually be executed well in an app not particerlaly crafted for it? It is like multi-player-if you don't start making the game with MP in mind form the get go, it is going to be complete rubish. Just about every developer has said so, and I think the motion control fad is going to prove valid in that respect as well.

At best you could expect (Kinect and motion control support does not add anything supstantial to the gameplay experience and your better off using the controller). At worst a reviewer looking to knock a couple points off the review is going to really rip into them for it.

If it pans out, it is not going to hurt us as gamers to have it in there. Unless of course your absoutly insane and play it with motion controls. It might sting EA/Bioware a bit in the reviews and the (Hey look what ELSE EA is making Bioware do) will add months of entertainment to the forums, but for us gamers-whats it really matter?

[Poopfish]

Is no one else thinking that they might add some kind of actual 3D head tracking with kinect for Mass Effect 3?

Modifié par Poopfish, 02 juin 2011 - 08:40 .

[shepskisaac]

Valcutio wrote...

Everyone else on a dev team needs to work around new features. It bogs down development time, saps resources from different departments and influences the overall package. Saying anything else is a straight lie.

If Kinnect is in (and I have no reason to doubt it is) - it's probably the one and only reason that ME3 was delayed. Now we know why.

Do you really think it wouldn't be delayed anyway?

[efrgfhnm_]

Oh god please no Kinect or Move
It is a ****ing gimmic, why put such an incredibly stupid feature into any game? I don't really see it helping at all, it won't improve sales, it's not going to imrpove review scores, if anything it'll be derided as a stupid idea and lower them, I can see no justifiable reason for having something like this in the game

[stonbw1]

What pains me about this is that it is very hard to imagine all the folks at BW wanting to incorporate the Kinect into the game when it was introduced or ever (especially after they stripped the Kinect down). That would suggest that this is purely a mechanism of EA forcing this on them to expand sales to the newer gamers, which doesn't bode well for the actual game. If EA can exert this much influence on the direction of the game, my staunch defense of BW will begin to erode. I'm starting to feel that this new game will barely resemble the first.

[streamlock]

Kinect + Bioware's signature dry humping scenes = ROFL youtube vids.

[GreenSoda]

bobobo878 wrote...

I don't see what the problem is, wouldn't it be more fun to actually swing at the television for renegade interrupts?

Yeah...I'm sure ME3Kinect will be balling

Modifié par GreenSoda, 02 juin 2011 - 11:13 .

[Clonedzero]

bobobo878 wrote...

I don't see what the problem is, wouldn't it be more fun to actually swing at the television for renegade interrupts?

you've obviously never used a kinect

[Kr0gan]

I hope it's not true. All the development efforts should be focused in giving more content and story than into integrating some stupid device.

[Fidget6]

Wow. Well.... I guess this will actually give me a reason to use my Kinect. Barely touched the thing since I got it last Xmas.

[JayhartRIC]

What other games use both the Kinect and controller?

[Gatt9]

Kr0gan wrote...

I hope it's not true. All the development efforts should be focused in giving more content and story than into integrating some stupid device.

This is an engine feature,  the Dev's working on this have nothing to do with GUI,  Level design,  Quest design,  Content,  or Story.  They have little to do but modify the existing engine.  So them adding Kinect support effectively costs nothing in terms of content or quality.  These guys were just sitting around bug fixing for the last 6-12 months of the project,  or more likely reassigned.

This is an input function,  nothing else.  It requires no art,  no content design,  no story design.  It's utilizing people who either would've been sitting around,  or (More likely) moved to an unannounced project.  It's effectively a free feature as far as the quality of the game goes,  it's using resources that would've been redirected to other work for longer than the Industry normally uses them.

Modifié par Gatt9, 03 juin 2011 - 12:09 .

[Kileyan]

Gatt9 wrote...

Kr0gan wrote...

I hope it's not true. All the development efforts should be focused in giving more content and story than into integrating some stupid device.

This is an engine feature,  the Dev's working on this have nothing to do with GUI,  Level design,  Quest design,  Content,  or Story.  They have little to do but modify the existing engine.  So them adding Kinect support effectively costs nothing in terms of content or quality.  These guys were just sitting around bug fixing for the last 6-12 months of the project,  or more likely reassigned.

This is an input function,  nothing else.  It requires no art,  no content design,  no story design.  It's utilizing people who either would've been sitting around,  or (More likely) moved to an unannounced project.  It's effectively a free feature as far as the quality of the game goes,  it's using resources that would've been redirected to other work for longer than the Industry normally uses them.

I agree with most of what you say, but I also tend to think it will require content design. If I had to guess it will even push forth some quicktime event stuff that is specially tailored for kinect, which will likely include the guys n gals that do animations, scripts and the cutscene engine.

Mostly I am just praying I am wrong, not a big fan of qucktime events.

[Kr0gan]

Gatt9 wrote...

Kr0gan wrote...

I hope it's not true. All the development efforts should be focused in giving more content and story than into integrating some stupid device.

This is an engine feature,  the Dev's working on this have nothing to do with GUI,  Level design,  Quest design,  Content,  or Story.  They have little to do but modify the existing engine.  So them adding Kinect support effectively costs nothing in terms of content or quality.  These guys were just sitting around bug fixing for the last 6-12 months of the project,  or more likely reassigned.

This is an input function,  nothing else.  It requires no art,  no content design,  no story design.  It's utilizing people who either would've been sitting around,  or (More likely) moved to an unannounced project.  It's effectively a free feature as far as the quality of the game goes,  it's using resources that would've been redirected to other work for longer than the Industry normally uses them.

And you know this because...?

[TomY90]

you know it could be a curve ball to see how the fans react to the motion technology and see from there if it is worth pursuing further or not.

so far the fans haven't reacted well to it

[Valcutio]

Kr0gan wrote...

Gatt9 wrote...

Kr0gan wrote...

I hope it's not true. All the development efforts should be focused in giving more content and story than into integrating some stupid device.

This is an engine feature,  the Dev's working on this have nothing to do with GUI,  Level design,  Quest design,  Content,  or Story.  They have little to do but modify the existing engine.  So them adding Kinect support effectively costs nothing in terms of content or quality.  These guys were just sitting around bug fixing for the last 6-12 months of the project,  or more likely reassigned.

This is an input function,  nothing else.  It requires no art,  no content design,  no story design.  It's utilizing people who either would've been sitting around,  or (More likely) moved to an unannounced project.  It's effectively a free feature as far as the quality of the game goes,  it's using resources that would've been redirected to other work for longer than the Industry normally uses them.

And you know this because...?

Because it's easy to make things up.

A featue like Kinect support would require complete content integration. Like I said earlier - if it's true that Kinect is now supported, we have our reason for the launch delay.

[silentassassin264]

Brenon Holmes wrote...

You can't say something like... If we cut two guns, we get more dialogue options! It doesn't really work that way. It'd be nice if it did... it would probably make a lot of the production guys' jobs easier. :happy:

Well that is good to know.  Gaider lied to me.  

[PsychoWARD23]

TomY90 wrote...

you know it could be a curve ball to see how the fans react to the motion technology and see from there if it is worth pursuing further or not.

so far the fans haven't reacted well to it

This is what I'm hoping.