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[RPGamer13]

Well, I finished all the activities.

I just finished the last two gang ops. They weren't showing up, one was even on ground level, but the one myseriously appeared after I exited out and reloaded.  The other was on the roof of one of the buildings near where you infiltrate the tower at the end of act 1.  Apparently, I flew over that one but it didn't appear there either.

I'm guessing it was a glitch that somehow rectified itself after I completed the rest of the activities.

Modifié par RPGamer13, 21 novembre 2011 - 04:03 .

[Jestina]

I think SR2 had a better balance of story and blowing stuff up.

SR3 just seems teetering to mindlessly blowing junk up and very little story. I found a new annoyance too, op brutes on activities like snatch.

Most of the characters in SR2 were also better than the ones in SR3.

[Nashiktal]

jreezy wrote...

Jestina wrote...

I think SR2 had a better balance of story and blowing stuff up.

SR3 just seems teetering to mindlessly blowing junk up and very little story. I found a new annoyance too, op brutes on activities like snatch.

Most of the characters in SR2 were also better than the ones in SR3.

Besides the old Shaundi and Gat I can't think of anybody else from SR2 that were better characters over people from 3.

I would describe it that SR2 has more soul, while SR3 is mechanically better, but tries to emulate said soul but misses.

But I already said my stance on the matter and jim sterling is better with words than I am.

Modifié par Nashiktal, 21 novembre 2011 - 11:15 .

[Seagloom]

Brutes are overpowered in general. They take way too many hits to drop. I've landed multiple nonstop head shots on them and it still takes forever. During the Snatch missions I make it a priority to throw molotov cocktails at any truck hauling a brute around. In Trafficking I'll always aim for the driver of a brute carrying truck so it'll smash into a wall somewhere never to be seen again. I hate the muffins.

Saints Row 2 had a better plot. Firstly, there was more of it. Cut scenes came fast and frequently during missions. It was easier to get a sense of what your enemies were like, and the conflicts between them and the Saint leaders felt more solid and personal. The story was fairly straightforward; whereas SRtT lacks defining antagonists. I'm of the mind that was intentional as part of a meta message, but there are instances when it's obvious corners were cut.

There were also one too many missions where nothing of note happened, or the mission itself is identical to a standard activity. Most of SR2's missions felt special.

As far as character likeability goes, I think SR3 tops SR2. I liked the Boss, Shaundi, Gat, and Pierce in SR2. I still liked the Boss, Gat and Pierce in SR3. On top of that there's Kinzie, Viola, and Oleg--all of which were awesome in their own right. Zimos was okay too, but eh... mostly as comic relief. I wouldn't call him likeable.

I hope the next game is closer to SR2 in its storytelling approach. There should be content from start to finish. SRtT had a packed first and last act, but the middle felt like a whole lot of padding. It was just activities and missions that opened up activities until the story picked up again.

Modifié par Seagloom, 21 novembre 2011 - 11:47 .

[KenKenpachi]

I agree on the story level seagloom, though I happend to like Zimos, but most of the rest of SR3 made up for that, plus some of the minigames and in general how hood control worked I hope comes back, but the game did have more action to it. They just need to find a balance, bring back some of your better activities, but run with the same general overall styles of SR TT and they may get a perfect 10 from reviewers and fans alike.

Modifié par KenKenpachi, 22 novembre 2011 - 12:06 .

[Nashiktal]

In my opinion I think SRTT was rushed out the door so to speak. It just feels unfinished and half baked, especially with how the story was handled.

I mean you don't take a community favorite character and treat him like that. The forums on the website are constantly being filled with threads and posts yelling at volition for how that particular scene (or the lack therof in this case) was handled.

Modifié par Nashiktal, 22 novembre 2011 - 12:16 .

[Nashiktal]

jreezy wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

In my opinion I think SRTT was rushed out the door so to speak. It just feels unfinished and half baked, especially with how the story was handled.

I mean you don't take a community favorite character and treat him like that. The forums on the website are constantly being filled with threads and posts yelling at volition for how that particular scene (or the lack therof in this case) was handled.

I'm assuming you're referring to Johnny?

Indeed. I always liked gat but I never realized how popular he was in the saints row community. (probably because I never frequented the saints row community until SRTT was anounced.)

[chiliztri]

Nashiktal wrote...

In my opinion I think SRTT was rushed out the door so to speak. It just feels unfinished and half baked, especially with how the story was handled.

I mean you don't take a community favorite character and treat him like that. The forums on the website are constantly being filled with threads and posts yelling at volition for how that particular scene (or the lack therof in this case) was handled.

I think what's worse besides the poor handling of Johnny was the lack of reaction from the Boss.

That pisses me off almost as much as how that scene went down. Shaundi seemed to be the only one affected on any level throughout the entire game.

[KenKenpachi]

Well the Boss IS a crazy ass sociopath, people like that short of revenge tend to not give a **** about the death so much as getting even. As to Pierce, hell when Gat was ran through with a Sword all he botherd to ask was "So am I promoted?" I doubt he came to give a **** about Gat even later on.

[Seagloom]

I must be the only person on Earth that didn't mind Gat's anticlimatic death... assuming he's truly dead. Short of a developer telling us he is, I'm not taking it without proof. The Saints live dangerously. Any one of them can die at any time. That said, I'm ambivalent about the Boss's non-reaction. I suppose Volition's writers could have gone that route to avoid souring too much of her coolness factor and humor.

Then again, maybe it's just not her way. She showed Carlos affection before mercy killing him in SR2, and a twinge of remorse over Shaundi and Viola's deaths in a SRtT ending path. In both cases it was a subtle outpouring of emotion. She's clearly someone that likes to play it close to the vest. She doesn't share her real name, cracks jokes when it's not appropriate, and never shows remorse over her mistakes. It could be argued that the Boss shows her grief over Gat by gunning after the Syndicate so brutally. The first thing she wants to do upon landing in Steelport is rip them apart.

Given that and her reaction to and following the Daedalus incident, she's good at showing strength and hiding weakness. That's nice leadership quality, but it doesn't make for a very sympathetic looking person when you can't hear what they think.

Edit: Another possibility as mentioned above is that she truly doesn't care and is a typical violent sociopath. I don't think that jives with some of her other behavior, though.

Modifié par Seagloom, 22 novembre 2011 - 01:12 .

[KenKenpachi]

@ Sea or HE

[Seagloom]

KenKenpachi wrote...

@ Sea or HE

Yes, or he.  I always write my posts from the female perspective. It's easier than writing she/he, s/he, they, and the like. That gets old fast.

[KenKenpachi]

Yeah I tend to go with the thrid person or title view, on a number of forums I've seen that start crap.

[Nashiktal]

Am I the only one who remembers how much the boss cared for gat in the second game? They were bros, comrades in arms, blood in blood out you know? It just felt wrong.

Le sigh/

[chiliztri]

No way, you aren't the only one. You'd have to be blind to think that the Boss and Johnny weren't close.

It was obvious during the Ronin missions. Especially after he is stabbed and they need to get him to the hospital. If she(or he) truly didn't care about Johnny she wouldn't have reacted and got Johnny to the hospital by any means necessary.

Modifié par chiliztri, 22 novembre 2011 - 03:05 .

[slimgrin]

28 hrs in and only 20% done. But I suppose that counter includes everything and not just the main mission. I find the Solar to be the most manageable vehicle. Nothin' fancy but it handles well.

Modifié par slimgrin, 22 novembre 2011 - 05:52 .

[FoxHound109]

25+ hours in, Nearly done. Have "conquered" almost all the turfs, done almost all the side missions, and only have a few missions left to go in order to finish the game.

I'm absolutely in love. I don't say that lightly; I'm very picky with games, especially open-world games like this. I feel like Saints Row the Third is one of the most fun games I've ever had the pleasure of playing.

[Nashiktal]

Are you a new fan or an old one? So far it seems this game is turning the old fans away in return for new ones.

I'm running out of game companies I like.

[FoxHound109]

Nashiktal wrote...

Are you a new fan or an old one? So far it seems this game is turning the old fans away in return for new ones.

I'm running out of game companies I like.

Brand new. Never played the first two. To be honest, I absolutely hate Grand Theft Auto and games similar to it. It's obvious where the influence for the Saints Row series comes from, so I've been staying away (unfairly?). Playing the third one because my brother bought it and he's busy with Skyrim, and it's basically everything GTA never was. The game is ridiculous and over-the-top, with some legitimately hilarious dialogue and situations. Not sure how I'd feel about if I had played the other two first though.