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[knightnblu]

The Mass Effect series is rated M for mature. That supposedly means that you have to be 18 years of age to purchase the game and that the content is for adults. With that in mind, I recently purchased and completed playing another RPG, Witcher 2, and I loved the nudity scenes in that.
 
Don't get me wrong, I thought that ME had tasteful use of nudity. However, ME2 blew chunks on the sex scenes with the exception of Tali for obvious reasons. Further, I realize that BioWare took a lot of unwarranted heat when they released Mass Effect and so toned it down in ME2.
 
Let us hope that BioWare again examines the story and if such an interlude is to be put in the game, it will return to the standard set by the original Mass Effect and not continue the ridiculous tactic they took with ME2.
 
Unless of course they want to play second fiddle to their competitors.

[Cheesy Blue]

Don't Care.

[OneMore1968]

I couldn't agree with you more. Don't get me wrong, I've been married 23 years so I don't need the game to contain graphic sex scenes or anything but I think the scenes in ME1 were tastefully done and did add an extra dimension to the game.

What a let down ME2 is !! especially for us femSheps !! (Jacob was...well words can't describe that one). I cannot even understand why games are rated like this anyway. Under 18's can get enough un-pixellated action anywhere these days. The only thing BW are doing is pandering to these ppl who think that they are actually controlling "sexually explicit" (quotes in the air here) material.

Yes, I too want to see a return, othewise they may as well do away with the romance altogether.

Did you say Witcher 2....mmmmm must add that one to the collection lol.

[Weiser_Cain]

I'd rather there be a better casual outfit system than a nudity gimme. I would walk around with my shirt off, Jacob style.

[GreenSoda]

Considering the whole ME universe / story BW created with the first two games hardly is "mature" I wouldn't count on seeing mature sex / romance scenes in ME3. Imo the ME franchise seems to take after Stark Trek -some mature themes at times but on the whole family-friendly entertainment fit for american TV with some gore effects sprinkeld in here and there to appeal to the COD-playing mainstream clientel.

...and so BW / EA seems to be happy with doing PG-13 romances

Modifié par GreenSoda, 02 juin 2011 - 07:21 .

[Dapper Pomegranate]

I hate censorship and ratings are silly, but anytime nudity has ever been in a video game it has felt to me like a tacky gimmick to increase sales. Especially in TW2. Granted, I haven't played the game but I've seen some videos...I don't know, does nudity really serve a purpose in games other than titillation?

[GreenSoda]

FrozenFire42 wrote...

I hate censorship and ratings are silly, but anytime nudity has ever been in a video game it has felt to me like a tacky gimmick to increase sales. Especially in TW2. Granted, I haven't played the game but I've seen some videos...I don't know, does nudity really serve a purpose in games other than titillation?

..."tacky gimmick to increase sales"...funny that you would think that way. Especially for a game like TW2 (TW1 with it's collectable sex-cards ("gotta catch them all"), I could understand, but TW2 ?) that actually did so much right on that front. 

A better question would be why, on the other hand, over the top gore effects (flying limps, exploding bodies, generally gratious depiction of blood and violence) seem to increase immersion, somehow ?

[AlexMBrennan]

You do realise that not everyone lives in the US, right? In the UK, for example, ME1 is 12+, ME2 is 15+, TW2 is 18+. [That's presumably because US censors are more worried about people learning about sex than learning to kill other people - ME1 opfor is mainly geth, ME2 opfor is mainly human-looking mercs]
Including TW2-style graphic nudity would just draw more fire from the media and ensure ME3 gets an 18+ rating worldwide rather than just the US.
[Besides, TW developers seem to be under the delusion that (female) full frontal nudity and replacing every third word with ****, ****** or ******** alone makes a "mature" game]

[Seboist]

Nudity is long overdue. Both ME1 and ME2 had "strip clubs" with fully clothed dancers, LOL.

[Lyrandori]

knightnblu wrote...

The Mass Effect series is rated M for mature. That supposedly means that you have to be 18 years of age to purchase the game and that the content is for adults. With that in mind, I recently purchased and completed playing another RPG, Witcher 2, and I loved the nudity scenes in that.
 
Don't get me wrong, I thought that ME had tasteful use of nudity. However, ME2 blew chunks on the sex scenes with the exception of Tali for obvious reasons. Further, I realize that BioWare took a lot of unwarranted heat when they released Mass Effect and so toned it down in ME2.
 
Let us hope that BioWare again examines the story and if such an interlude is to be put in the game, it will return to the standard set by the original Mass Effect and not continue the ridiculous tactic they took with ME2.
 
Unless of course they want to play second fiddle to their competitors.

Barely so, I'd rather call them romance scenes, not much "sex" in there.

Anyway, Mass Effect shouldn't turn into some sex simulator, I don't want more explicit and lengthier "sex scenes" in ME3. I don't mind a few kisses here and there, that's cool, but c'mon guys, full "nudity"? Are some of you that desperate? I'd highly recommend downloading some real pornography instead or ask your girlfriend for some close and personal mumbo jumbo...

I swear some people.

Please, BioWare, don't fall for it mmmk? Or else Fox News will have too much work to do.

Modifié par Lyrandori, 02 juin 2011 - 07:40 .

[Merf4]

I want nudity! I mean it doesn't have to be porno, and it can be subtle, i would rather more in depth romance then one sex scene. I also would soooooo rather that after the sex scene that you can have way more in depth talks to your partner, its seems like once the sex scene is over there isn't much story left or good convo. I wanna be able to go up to her after and be like I LOVE YOU, and stuff etc.

[SilentNukee]

It's actually rated R13 in NZ. O.o

[Hordriss81]

ME doesn't need nudity.

[GreenSoda]

Hordriss81 wrote...

ME doesn't need nudity.

ME doesn't need gore.

[OneMore1968]

Lyrandori wrote...

Anyway, Mass Effect shouldn't turn into some sex simulator, I don't want more explicit and lengthier "sex scenes" in ME3. I don't mind a few kisses here and there, that's cool, but c'mon guys, full "nudity"? Are some of you that desperate? I'd highly recommend downloading some real pornography instead or ask your girlfriend for some close and personal mumbo jumbo...

I swear some people.

rofl.  You really think that ppl who ask for this play the game purely for gratification.  I'm not asking for movie length sex scenes.  The point I understood ppl who ask for it, are just taking the lead from Bioware who create this type of game and market the sex scenes as mature which is laughable.  

 No I am not that desperate, my sex life is very healthy thank you (hubby is chuckling to himself in the corner after reading this).  I have watched real pornography and found it less than tasteful in most cases and a complete turn off. 

[HogarthHughes 3]

GreenSoda wrote...

Hordriss81 wrote...

ME doesn't need nudity.

ME doesn't need gore.

It barely has any.  The occasional blood splatter and burning enemy are nothing compared to many games out right now.  Off the top of my head, both of the Dead Space games (though admittedly those are action horror) and Gears of War games have enemies that can be torn limb from limb.  Not saying that Mass Effect needs to change, but really it isn't bad at all.

Sex scenes really aren't all that important to me in video games.  The fade to black scenes work perfectly, without the risk of getting really awkward.  Besides, there are plenty of other areas in the game Bioware could focus development on instead.

[OneMore1968]

Lyrandori wrote...

Anyway, Mass Effect shouldn't turn into some sex simulator, I don't want more explicit and lengthier "sex scenes" in ME3. I don't mind a few kisses here and there, that's cool, but c'mon guys, full "nudity"? Are some of you that desperate? I'd highly recommend downloading some real pornography instead or ask your girlfriend for some close and personal mumbo jumbo...

I swear some people.

Please, BioWare, don't fall for it mmmk? Or else Fox News will have too much work to do.

rofl.  I don't believe the ppl who are asking for this see ME series as some kind of sex simulator, far from it.  Nor do I want movie length sex scenes, I can get the real thing elsewhere (in fact hubby chuckling in the corner after reading this).    Not necessarily nudity.  At the end of the day Bioware have set a trend for their games having some kind of sexual content.  I found ME1 to be tasteful and it integrated well within the storyline.  After the disaster that is ME2, it would be nice to return to ME1 style scenes.

I have tried 'real' pornography and found it a turn-off mostly.  And I live in the UK.

What I find really odd is that you comment strongly on this part of the game but not the gore content?  (which I know isn't as bad as some games granted)  Oh well.

I also wish that BW could put focus elsewhere such as getting more tension in the parts of the game where crucial decisions are made.   Alas this isn't likely to happen, but you can hope.

Modifié par Carlina, 02 juin 2011 - 08:09 .

[knightnblu]

It isn't about titillation. Well, with the possible exception of Miranda :-) It is about what makes sense. You wouldn't want to strip Tali because it could kill her and that is understandable. But the clothes on sex scene on the deck of engineering? That does not make sense. It started off passionate and even somewhat frenzied, but then fizzled out visually.

Jack's scene was just as bad. You had the tough girl reveal her vulnerable side, the mascara ran, and then...nothing. Cut scenes have moved beyond the realm of video games and are now more akin to motion pictures. They ooze emotion and enhance the acting, and can either throw a monkey wrench into a story or really punctuate it.

Aside from the stellar performances of the voice actors, many of whom are some of the best in the business, the game visuals tease out and fine tune their performances giving greater game immersion to the player.

But when a scene comes up that is non sequitur, like getting it on fully dressed, it pulls you right out of the game and makes you wonder what the heck happened. It would be as if you were watching a TV show and the character stepped into the shower in a business suit to get cleaned up. It doesn't make any sense.

I am not saying that ME3 must have nudity, but I am saying that if they are going to do a scene where the characters become intimate, they should be true to the story and not cop out like they did with ME2.

[Weiser_Cain]

Implied nudity?

[Dapper Pomegranate]

GreenSoda wrote...
..."tacky gimmick to increase sales"...funny that you would think that way. Especially for a game like TW2 (TW1 with it's collectable sex-cards ("gotta catch them all"), I could understand, but TW2 ?) that actually did so much right on that front. 

I'll admit, I was mostly referring to the sex card tomfoolery. If they dropped that in TW2 then good on them. Though I have to ask, out of genuine curiousity, what did TW2 do right on that front? Like I said, I haven't actually played the game.

GreenSoda wrote...
A better question would be why, on the other hand, over the top gore effects (flying limps, exploding bodies, generally gratious depiction of blood and violence) seem to increase immersion, somehow ?

I largely agree with this. I sincerely doubt DA2's strawberry jam explosions or GoW's endless fountains of blood help anyone's immersion. However, if you kill someone to death and there's no gore, I could see it being a bit jarring to some. Like every other thing ever, there's a fine line...

Modifié par FrozenFire42, 02 juin 2011 - 08:36 .

[knightnblu]

The Witcher 2 used full on nudity and hard R sex scenes, but considering the atmosphere of the story it worked. The sex wasn't as gratuitous as it was in Witcher, with the exception of the **** house, but you have to pay for that. But I have seen movies that were more explicit, but not much more.

The scene in the bath is destined to be a classic and I will leave it at that. All in all the characters were believable and the story was well thought out and executed. If you like the RPG genre I don't think that you can go wrong by buying it in my opinion. With 16 different endings and choices that really matter downstream, there is also a lot of replay in it.

[arne1234]

Without actually having seen the witcher scene all it can teach bioware is that you can get away with a lot. Still it sounds more tasteful then simply making anyone bi and romanceble

[Dapper Pomegranate]

arne1234 wrote...

Without actually having seen the witcher scene all it can teach bioware is that you can get away with a lot. Still it sounds more tasteful then simply making anyone bi and romanceble

Oh please. Making everyone bi is far more realistic than two humans having sex naked...wait...

[habitat 67]

GreenSoda wrote...

Hordriss81 wrote...

ME doesn't need nudity.

ME doesn't need gore.

That's where you're both wrong.
ME3 is a time for naked exploding husks. I'll be waiting here patiently...

[AlexMBrennan]

I'm pretty sure husks are technically naked and can be chunked.