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[LPPrince]

LGTX wrote...

I, too, think the "current" placeholder is better - but only if it's just that, and will be worked upon by the devs.

And Mesina, LPPrince told you his OPINION. What are you trying to achieve by your aggressive retorts about, em, what - cover art design, right - apart from derailing the topic?

Hey hey hey now, relax. He's just countering my opinion with ways to back up his. Its all good. As long as everyone understands that this thread will be chock full of people's opinions and people don't try to masquerade them as facts(if I say anything that sounds like I'm trying to be factual, know that its my opinion unless its undoubtedly a fact).

[CroGamer002]

candidate88766 wrote...

And slightly different armour.

What?
It's same!

And I'm not complaining for armor, I actually wouldn't like for not having standard N7 armor.

The pose is actually different as well. Not huge differences, but differences nonetheless.

OK I go little over myself saying it's exactly the same but still.
It still looks almost the same.

It is also a pretty good background I think.

I never said background is bad.
But it should look little different since Reapers are already on Earth when Shepard retreats from Earth.


Like for example you see escaping ships while Reapers blowing up some of them.

LPPrince wrote...

Same style, but it IS different. And in a good way. The placeholder art is better than the mag's cover in my opinion and would be acceptable for final release(even though I'd prefer a more ME1 styled approach to the cover).

OK how is better?
Sheploo face still looks pretty bad. I don't mind Phalanx at all but Omni-tool blade looks stupid.

[LPPrince]

Sheploo/Vandershep is the Shepard used for promotion. His face is recognizable as Shepard to those who see the series from the outside. To draw them in, they need to see something they recognize. Hence, Shepard's face.

Omni-tool blade thing- Totally up to opinion. I think it looks cool but I need to see the pic blown up rather than still as a tiny little image.

[CroGamer002]

LGTX wrote...

And Mesina, LPPrince told you his OPINION. What are you trying to achieve by your aggressive retorts about, em, what - cover art design, right - apart from derailing the topic?

How the hell I'm aggressive?

[CroGamer002]

LPPrince wrote...

Sheploo/Vandershep is the Shepard used for promotion. His face is recognizable as Shepard to those who see the series from the outside. To draw them in, they need to see something they recognize. Hence, Shepard's face.

You misunderstood me.

I didn't said Sheploo face is horrible, I actually love it, I said Sheploo face was made horrible in GI magazine.

Omni-tool blade thing- Totally up to opinion. I think it looks cool but I need to see the pic blown up rather than still as a tiny little image.

Agreed, it is just opinion.
I just think it looks really out of place for Mass Effect.

[LPPrince]

Then you should be glad that the Game Informer magazine cover is not the placeholder cover for ME3.

Shepard looks like a BAMF who's ready to wreck the Reapers up in the placeholder. I'd much rather have that than ME2's "Look at mah face, hurr durr teehee" face Shepard had.

[candidate88766]

Mesina2 wrote...

candidate88766 wrote...

And slightly different armour.

What?
It's same!

And I'm not complaining for armor, I actually wouldn't like for not having standard N7 armor.

I was more thinking and typing than trying to nitpick your arguements, but looking at the boxart there are small differences. The shoulder pads have changed from the GameInformer cover, the central and lower parts of the chestpiece have changed a bit. This isn't to try to change your opinion of the boxart, just to show that isn't quite as lazy as you may've orginally thought.

Also, I quite like the omni-blade. It looks pretty nifty, and much better than a full blown sword would've done. At first I thought it didn't make sense, but it is in keeping with the established canon of what omni-tools can do.

Modifié par candidate88766, 02 juin 2011 - 11:11 .

[LPPrince]

Mesina2 wrote...

LGTX wrote...

And Mesina, LPPrince told you his OPINION. What are you trying to achieve by your aggressive retorts about, em, what - cover art design, right - apart from derailing the topic?

How the hell I'm aggressive?

Ironically, your response came off as a tad aggressive there. :innocent:

[Babli]

Terrible.

[LPPrince]

candidate88766 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

candidate88766 wrote...

And slightly different armour.

What?
It's same!

And I'm not complaining for armor, I actually wouldn't like for not having standard N7 armor.

I was more thinking and typing than trying to nitpick your arguements, but looking at the boxart there are small differences. The shoulder pads have changed from the GameInformer cover, the central and lower parts of the chestpiece have changed a bit. This isn't to try to change your opinion of the boxart, just to show that isn't quite as lazy as you may've orginally thought.

Also, I quite like the omni-blade. It looks pretty nifty, and much better than a full blown sword would've done. At first I thought it didn't make sense, but it is in keeping with the established canon of what omni-tools can do.

If it was a sword, I think we'd be getting Mass Effect Gaiden and Mass Effect Rising references.

[Turran]

Oh god Shepard has turned into a mixture of Wolverine and a Jedi..
Not too keen on that cover though, simplicity can sometimes be the most epic

[Rheia]

There are quite a lot fanmade art posters that rival the original posted, though I do think it is a placeholder.

Also, while I won't delude myself that this will happen, but I'd love to see a double sided cover with male Shepard on one side, and female one on the other.

Something like that for the other cover: 
Author: kaskouka
Author's page: here

[candidate88766]

Turran wrote...

Oh god Shepard has turned into a mixture of Wolverine and a Jedi..

You almost made that sound like a bad thing. A cross between Wolverine and a Jedi sounds incalculably awesome.

[TomY90]

I think it is just a cover they have done to in a way create an announcement on it own for instance it has shown a new omni-tool and the possibility of using a dual weapon system with shepherd of using a knife whilst using a pistol.

and obviously they have shown that it has kinect on it as well so it is acting a news announcement.

I expect they will unveil the actual one nearer to launch and will likely be something alone the lines of the ME2 cover not the current ME3 cover

[LPPrince]

Simplicity might not bring in new customers, though.

A cover simply with Mass Effect 3 on it or the cover of ME2's Collector's Edition might not bring in as many new players as say ME1's cover.

They can't just make a cover to cater to players who will buy the game no matter the cover.

They have to account for grabbing the attention of new players. Hence the striking colors, the badassery exuded by Shepard, and the hell taking place on Earth in the background.

[CroGamer002]

LPPrince wrote...

The difference between those covers and ME3's placeholder, Mesina, is that they aren't all that striking.

Placeholder or not. It doesn't look inspiring and looks cliche cover.

All of them use the same general colors while the current placeholder for ME3 has the signature striking blue and orange we've all come to recognize from ME1 and 2.

And I was not talking about the colours.

It still carries the sci fi feel, has a nice rounded planet in the background(which adds a nice division across the cover) and in my opinion, is better than the link you posted AND the covers of Modern Warfare, BBC2, and B3.

Sci-fi feel?
I really don't get that with this possible placeholder.

EDIT- Forgot to mention specifically about the link. Hurr durr, I has mishaps.

Anywhoozle, the link you posted is.....well, drab. Its just the back of someone looking at a planet. Not really gonna draw many people in with that depressing background.

You need a striking cover with a badass standing there looking like he's ready to take down the biggest threat to galactic civilization. Not a cover with a dude looking out of a window at a planet that you can't even tell is being annihilated since only a piece of the planet is on the cover.

1st there's a lot of covers for games with some badass and they're either a shooter or action adventure game. Not really a good think if people want to play different kind of game unless they stumble upon info that it is.

2nd I didn't say to be exactly like that image. It should look similar. More destruction of Earth and you see many ships escaping while some Reapers destroying them.

[CroGamer002]

LPPrince wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

LGTX wrote...

And Mesina, LPPrince told you his OPINION. What are you trying to achieve by your aggressive retorts about, em, what - cover art design, right - apart from derailing the topic?

How the hell I'm aggressive?

Ironically, your response came off as a tad aggressive there. :innocent:

Really?
If I was, then I apologize.

[Hyper_gateway]

Box art supposes to capture customer's attention at the very first sight, the one here can't really deliver the job well.

An epic game with an awesome box cover is a must! Even the background of runed London is more interesting than Shepard standing in the front.....

As it is the final of Shepard's story, give us your best shot of Shepard:)

[LPPrince]

So a Shooter/RPG hybrid shouldn't have a hardcore badass on the cover looking like he's gonna kill you with a beautiful planetary backdrop because.....shooters and action adventures have covers with badasses on them?

I'm not getting it. Please reiterate.

But before that, let me clarify that Bioware shouldn't give a rat's gluteus maximus whether other games in their genre or other genres have done something to their covers.

Point- Whatever they did to their covers WORKED.

Bioware's been trying to grab the shooter market and this cover would certainly do well to grab them.

As for RPG players, most already know about this series and have latched on to it. Still, they aren't forgotten, as RPG players put much stake in the story of the game, and since the story of the ME universe is in space, they put a beautiful background in the cover to draw RPGers in as well.

It accommodates all. Badass with a gun on the cover, signature omni-tool with a new blade, and a beautiful spacial background of Earth getting bombarded by the Reapers.

Just reading that back to myself makes me sure of the fact that the cover can bring in both new players and players who've stuck around since the beginning.

So frankly, I don't see the problem. Of course, everyone sees things differently, so opinions will differ and that I understand, but I'm trying to see it from other points of view and I'm just not able to grasp why exactly this cover is so terribad in people's minds.

Whether its good or bad is irrelevant anyway since its just a placeholder. I'd be surprised if this ended up being the final cover, but I wouldn't complain. Still, I want to see what the Commander/Spectre/Elite/whatever the hell they want to call it Edition is gonna look like since I'll be spending over 100 bucks on it.

EDIT- "Goor or bad". GOOD or bad gosh darn it. I love how one letter makes a section of a sentence ridonkulous.

Modifié par LPPrince, 02 juin 2011 - 11:36 .

[CroGamer002]

candidate88766 wrote...

I was more thinking and typing
than trying to nitpick your arguements, but looking at the boxart there
are small differences. The shoulder pads have changed from the
GameInformer cover, the central and lower parts of the chestpiece have
changed a bit. This isn't to try to change your opinion of the boxart,
just to show that isn't quite as lazy as you may've orginally thought.

Also,
I quite like the omni-blade. It looks pretty nifty, and much better
than a full blown sword would've done. At first I thought it didn't make
sense, but it is in keeping with the established canon of what
omni-tools can do.

OK i did better look at cover art and I just noticed different armor parts.

Woops.



But still, that Omni-tool blade looks stupid to me for Mass Effect.

Though I can understand why you like it.

[LPPrince]

Hyper_gateway wrote...

Even the background of runed London is more interesting than Shepard standing in the front.....

There is where I'd HIGHLY disagree even more than I did before with Mesina's link.

A ruined London implies a game that takes place solely on Earth, more akin to a Modern Warfare 3 than a Mass Effect 3. I'd hate a cover like that.

[Alex109222]

Kinect huh. Knew it.

[-Skorpious-]

While ME's boxart was simply amazing (thus, will not be considered here for the sake of fairness), I thought ME2's original cover was better than both the current ME2 and the ME3 "placeholder" covers -

[candidate88766]

Mesina2 wrote...

But still, that Omni-tool blade looks stupid to me for Mass Effect.

Though I can understand why you like it.

I think the main reason I like it is because after I heard about the melee system I was expecting full-blown swords and the like, so something a bit more restrained like this small blade seems much better than I was expecting. It reminds a bit of the elbow blades in Dues Ex: HR. I'll wait to see them in gameplay to decide whether they fit the Mass Effect universe, but atm I think it fits. Its a bit like the Broker's shield - it seemed odd at first, but after a couple of plays of LotSB I grew to like it and I think it fits the ME universe.

Modifié par candidate88766, 02 juin 2011 - 11:38 .

[LPPrince]

I think the Omni-Blade fits in quite well. Perfectly, actually.

Its like having a CQC knife without an actual knife. Taking advantage of the Omni-Tool by turning it into a wrist mounted blade for thrusting and slashing sounds not only effective but completely sensible.