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[Diceyy]

Kotor 2 was awful. But that is on the publishers who wanted to rush it out the door asap not the developer who wasn't given sufficient time to make a good game. A bit like da2 possibly?...

[Guns]

ladyvader wrote...
New Vegas sucks anyway. I loved Fallout 3, but New Vegas can't keep my attention for more than an hour or two then I always seem to either go back to DA2 or ME2.

......go away

[Bryzon]

Atakuma wrote...

KOTOR 2 and NWN2 were both inferior in my opinion.

+1

[SOLID_EVEREST]

Okay, Obsidian has developers from Black Isle that made games way better than Baldur's Gate. Fallout still stands as one of the RPG milestones.

Anyways, I would love it if Obsidian took Dragon Age under their wing. The only problem I forsee is if Dungeon Siege: III fails I fear that it will be the death of Obsidian. People thought that Obsidian was going to fall after the release of Alpha Protocol which was a victim of unfair reviews.

I think that Obsidian could bring Dragon Age into the dark fantasy RPG setting it promised in the beginning but didn't deliver. Obsidian has the greatest writers in their team, and I think they could do way better than Dragon Age: Origins.

I think, though, that Obsidian should buy the IP rights to Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines and make a sequel. That game is a gold mine on Steam right now.

[hexaligned]

As long as they develop it as a PC exclusive release, /signed.

[Il Divo]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

While I agree, the sad thing is that Obsidian can't afford to buy any IPs. They can only license established franchises for single games. They need a big success and even though some people here doubt DS3, something tells me it will be successful, but maybe not as successful as F:NV was.

I love Obsidian's work and work ethic, and because of that I will support them and buy DS3. Even if it sucks. But I don't think it will.

I don't think DS3 is going to suck (have it reserved as well). But I also don't think that it's going to be the 'big success' Obsidian needs,at least based on the previews I've seen.

Modifié par Il Divo, 05 juin 2011 - 06:43 .

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Il Divo wrote...

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

While I agree, the sad thing is that Obsidian can't afford to buy any IPs. They can only license established franchises for single games. They need a big success and even though some people here doubt DS3, something tells me it will be successful, but maybe not as successful as F:NV was.

I love Obsidian's work and work ethic, and because of that I will support them and buy DS3. Even if it sucks. But I don't think it will.

I don't think DS3 is going to suck (have it reserved as well). But I also don't think that it's going to be the 'big success' Obsidian needs,at least based on the previews I've seen.

I was looking forward to it before I learned it was going to be a console game published by Square-Enix, I'm not even going to bother demoing it at this point.

[SOLID_EVEREST]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

SOLID_EVEREST wrote...

Okay, Obsidian has developers from Black Isle that made games way better than Baldur's Gate. Fallout still stands as one of the RPG milestones.

Anyways, I would love it if Obsidian took Dragon Age under their wing. The only problem I forsee is if Dungeon Siege: III fails I fear that it will be the death of Obsidian. People thought that Obsidian was going to fall after the release of Alpha Protocol which was a victim of unfair reviews.

I think that Obsidian could bring Dragon Age into the dark fantasy RPG setting it promised in the beginning but didn't deliver. Obsidian has the greatest writers in their team, and I think they could do way better than Dragon Age: Origins.

I think, though, that Obsidian should buy the IP rights to Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines and make a sequel. That game is a gold mine on Steam right now.

While I agree, the sad thing is that Obsidian can't afford to buy any IPs. They can only license established franchises for single games. They need a big success and even though some people here doubt DS3, something tells me it will be successful, but maybe not as successful as F:NV was.

I love Obsidian's work and work ethic, and because of that I will support them and buy DS3. Even if it sucks. But I don't think it will.

I've played the DS series since the first, so I'm going to pre-order DS:3 when I get some dough. I just don't know how the public will look at DS: 3. I just feel that Obsidian is under a freaking microscope when it comes to buggy games. I mean New Vegas is probably less buggy than Fallout: 3, and it is still getting patches unlike Fallout: 3. They really need a hit game, but I don't think it lies with the DS series. I think they would get re-vamped if they were given the Dragon Age title to work on. I think they would do a better job than BioWare has been currently doing.

[Chaos Lord Malek]

Kotor 2 and NWN 2 inferior????? NOT A CHANCE.

First Kotor 2 got problems - BUGS, it was plagued by bugs from start to end. I am not sure if the last patch fixed all of them(doubt that), but the overall game was much better then first Kotor - it had much better story, it was longer then the first one and it had much better characters as well and animations, combat and armor/clothing look was improved. Kreia is possibly one of the TOP 5 best characters ever in entire SW universe, and even rest of the crew - HK 47, Visas Mar, G0-T0, Anton and Mira were super cool. The only bad character which i disliked was Disciple - i liked that evil wookie more then him.

NWN 1 better then NWN 2 ? NEVER!!! NWN 1 had pathetic story, and utterly blant characters. The initial campaign was 10 times worse then what Dragon Age 2 had, even with re-used areas (4mysterious creatures = 4 districts!). I never played the first expansion Shadows of Undertide, but Hordes of Underdark was finally a good one - however it was`t made by Bioware, if i am not mistaken.

Compare to that NWN 2 was miles away better, with richer storyline, better characters and companions. Again it had bugs (Starling infinite Xp, some stucking and crashes). However even with all that it was still better then first NWN - the NWN 1 was just all about editor, campaign was made only as "look what you can make".

And the Mask of the Betrayer is by far one of the best RPGs of past 5-10 years, it has best storyline of all the rpgs from Planescape: Torment, only now Witcher 2 is beating it - but still i would be glad if the same people that did Mask of the Betrayer would work on Dragon Age 3, that would guarantee perfect and completely unique story. And also i don`t remember any obviously glaring bugs from MotB, so even Obsidian got the get better eventually. Not sure how its with their New Vegas, as i have`t played that one yet.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Chaos Lord Malek wrote...

NWN 1 better then NWN 2 ? NEVER!!! NWN 1 had pathetic story, and utterly blant characters. The initial campaign was 10 times worse then what Dragon Age 2 had, even with re-used areas (4mysterious creatures = 4 districts!). I never played the first expansion Shadows of Undertide, but Hordes of Underdark was finally a good one - however it was`t made by Bioware, if i am not mistaken.

I think NWN's gameplay was more fun than NWN2's gameplay.  The combat was paced better, the interface was superior - it was just a better game to play.

Oh, and HotU was BioWare.  SoU was not (SoU did have the best level design of any NWN campaign).

[Michael177]

I'll pass... about playing kotor 2 and kotor 1 recently and also playing fallout 3 and vegas, i'd perfer obsidian doesn't touch anything I enjoyed

[i love lamp x3]

fallout new Vegas was so much better than fallout 3. and kotor 2 was so much better than kotor 1 (gameplay-wise). they are great at refining existing series, and alpha protocol was underrated. that said, no one respects them enough to give them more than a year or two to push out a game. I think obsidian is a great company.

but overall, I'd prefer da and mass effect stay in house (as in bioware's house). bioware will be launching a new IP or 2 (or 3) soon and maybe the sequel to one of those could go to obsidian

[Morroian]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

While I agree, the sad thing is that Obsidian can't afford to buy any IPs. They can only license established franchises for single games. They need a big success and even though some people here doubt DS3, something tells me it will be successful, but maybe not as successful as F:NV was.

I'd rather Obsidian create their own IPs, they do have some ideas but probably struggle to find a publisher at the moment. Hasn't New Vegas been a big success? I would hope the success of New Vegas changes things for them.

[Morroian]

i love lamp x3 wrote...

but overall, I'd prefer da and mass effect stay in house (as in bioware's house). bioware will be launching a new IP or 2 (or 3) soon and maybe the sequel to one of those could go to obsidian

What new IPs? I'd think BW will have their hands full with TOR, DA and ME spin offs at the moment. 

[PanosSmirnakos]

Obsidian to develop DA 3? I don't think so. Mass Effect, Jade Empire and Dragon Age are the only Bioware games which are 100% Bioware. So, I think it's hard to give their babies away. Obsidian can make great story-driven games too, but they can't develop a game which is technically solid so far. So, IMO there won't be a difference with Obsidian. Let's hope that DA 3 will be technically and technologically better because Dragon Age has already a fantastic original setting which has amazing potential for great stories and they can't go wrong with it (unless they choose to rush and simplify it for the easy money a la DA 2).

Modifié par PanosSmirnakos, 05 juin 2011 - 11:24 .

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I.AM.DUNCAN wrote...

Well obsidian butchered FO for me, so no. There's no way in hell I'd let those people develop even one NPC in DA3.

Butchered, are you serious!? They developed Fallout, so how the heck can they butcher their own creation. If anything, they saved Fallout because it had such a stupid story under Bethesda. Seriously, Bethesda's storylines are like an emo with a black and white crayon drew on vomit. They butchered the Brotherhood into the life of a stereotypical hero with guns like something out of Oblivion. Bethesda did not create the Fallout world; I suggest you play the originals. Chris Avellone was the genius that revitalized the series with some funnier input (I thought Tim Caine's vision was too serious in Fallout: 1).

Anyways, Obsidian really needs to find a publisher that won't force their games out the door after 2 years. If you look at the time they take to make games, they are actually the best developers I have ever seen. In less/equal time it took to throw up Dragon Age: 2, Obsidian releases games that rival the original, or are overall better than the original in the case of New Vegas. They have so much potential, but publishers just don't give them the resources they need. Even though New Vegas was a bigger success than 3, they don't seem to be getting any of the money it seems like Zenimax is keeping it all for themselves.

[Mistress9Nine]

All other factors being the same I'd rather BioWare made all the further DA games. A lot of people were disappointed by DA2, but I do not believe other studios could've done any better with the same resources and time constraints. Obsidian had to work under bad circumstances for a long time yet they could still not adjust. You'd think by now they'd have mastered the out of rushing out other developers leftover sequesls. I guess at least with Fallout they did kind of an OK job, but it was way too short.