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[Romantiq]

simfamSP wrote...

-Semper- wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Such as the save game crash bug. I couldn't proceed anywhere because everytime the game saved. Weather auto, quick or manual - it just crashed.

pls don't blame obsidian because of your crappy pc. that's not their fault

You know what pisses me of. Is that someone is in such denial that they lead to insults? My PC has managed to run the newest games this year and it's almost 5 years old and the XP version.

Once again. I enjoy FO:NV it's a great game, but I am not blind to any flaws. Though those flaws to not hinder my enjoyment because I tend to ignore them. Like DA2. I enjoy it a lot. I really do. But I'm the first one to admit that it was a flop.

Try CASM (http://www.newvegasn...le.php?id=36730)
Go to options in New Vegas and disable saves on rest, wait, autosaves etc.

I had this crap happening to me in Fallout 3 as well but CASM fixes it in new vegas.

[Biodrone9001]

You don't have much faith in our overlords. They make the best games.

[Nepenthe87]

-Semper- wrote...

Nepenthe87 wrote...

How could Obsidian have been thinking of a story and other design options in 2008 a year before they were contacted by Bethsoft?

because once upon a time black isle developed the real deal (fallout 3 aka van buren) which was later canceled. they kept the design documents as intellectual property and used them as inspiration for new vegas. if you browse through them you will notice lots of similarities

anyways the 18month development time bio've gotten is more than enough for such a big team to drop an aaa title. their whole schedule was a mess. add all the bad design decisions they made and you know why da2 is... a dissappointment.

I know the history behind the fallout series. and setting =/= the story and characters. yeah they had all the stuff from Va buren but they said themselves they tried t otake as little from Van Buren as possible. Hell the only real thing in the game that was influenced by VB was caesars legion. the rest is completely different (to the point of even completely different wastelands).

So yeah they probably had a lot of the stuff from the Van buren days but that doesnt mean they were crafting the New vegas plot from that before they were contacted to make the game.

the way I see it is Bethsoft came to them about a new fallout game. They gathered up all their stuff from back in the old days and then decided to craft a completely new game. I dont think they had the foresight to start making a game before the ywere contacted to make it. even if it was their baby at one point.

Modifié par Nepenthe87, 03 juin 2011 - 03:38 .

[Raygereio]

simfamSP wrote...
You made a fair and honest post about the two sides of an obsidian discussion, then you go and make a complete hypocrite out of yourself.

You know? I'm actually rather amazed at the fact that thread has remained so civil. Even personal attacks haven't really gone beyond the above sillyness. This isn't the forum filled with vitrol I used to know! What happened?

Anyway; do look up the meaning of the word hypocrite. In this case XxTaLoNxX would be an hypocrite if he was a member of the David Gaider fanclub, while simultaneously harping on the man, or something like that. This message was brought to you by association dedicated to the proper use of words

Honestly though: some people might think ME2 has a masterfully written story, I look at those people with a slack jawed, stunned expression of disbelieve. But hey, I can't argue they're wrong as that's their opinion. They're having fun with that story, so more power to them.
Likewise I have nothing but pity for the people that think Alpha Protocol is anything but a beautiful gem as that means they won't experience what I think of as a good game. I think it's sad for those individuals, but that's their loss.
What I'm trying to say is that this thread doesn't have any point to it. Everyone has their opinions of what is and isn't a good gamestudio and anyone that thinks his or her opinion is some kind of objective, unassailable truth deserve all the scorn and mockery they'll get.

Modifié par Raygereio, 03 juin 2011 - 04:42 .

[Eternal Phoenix]

Obsidian suck. There are game killing bugs in all of their games.

[Bejos_]

XxTaLoNxX wrote...

... the Fallout franchise ... has outsold DA2 and been moderately better received ...

These two points don't have any bearing on the rest of your post. You could interpret these two statements in a variety of ways. Fallout is more easy to market to FPS players than DA2 is; because FPS players are by far the biggest subset of gamers, it's reasonable to expect that Fallout would sell better than does DA2. Also, a lot of FPS players aren't expecting the same level of story or world that RPG fans do, so a lot of those "receptions" may well have been overly positive simply because they (FPS gamers) have nothing else with which to compare Fallout.
As gaming reviews and reception, I think it's been established fairly well over the past decade or two, are a shameful way to measure quality, and because DA2 is not an FPS, you really can't factor them into whether Bethesda would benefit DA3.

Modifié par Bejos_, 03 juin 2011 - 06:03 .

[Nashiktal]

I love obsidian and their work.


But I do not want them making Dragon Age 3.

[Kalmarath]

There are people in Obsidian who did Planescape: Torment and Fallout (1 and 2) no? Those are legendary.

I've only played Neverwinter Nights 2 and its expansion that are from Obsidian and I thought that they're better than the first.

Neverwinter Nights was quite a let down, especially after making a game like Baldur's Gate 2. But it got better in the expansions. And I thought that Obsidian did great with the sequel.

[Porenferser]

No thanks.

Also, what's the great deal about Obsidian writers?
I personally found the Story of KotoR 2 pretty much senseless.

[lyleoffmyspace]

The gameplay in KoTOR2 was better than in the first game. It's really not a bad game considering how long they had to work on it.

Chris Avellone's writing would be well suited to the world of Thedas too. DA is supposed to be gritty, dark, low fantasy isn't it? And that's what Chris does pretty well.

Modifié par lyleoffmyspace, 03 juin 2011 - 08:07 .

[ArcanistLibram]

No.

[Brahox]

I like Obsidain but I don't think they should have anything to do with DA3.. Bioware just needs to go back to doing what it did best.

[JamesMoriarty123]

They really shouldn't. As bad as DA2 is, Bioware's general quality is about 1000% better than Obsidian.

But then again, Alpha Protocol was actually better than DA2...and that's saying a lot.

Modifié par JamesMoriarty123, 03 juin 2011 - 08:38 .

[jack_f]

You can criticize Obsidian games for being unfinished or buggy, but one thing nobody can deny: their writing is miles above Bioware's - that's a fact.

[Atakuma]

jack_f wrote...

You can criticize Obsidian games for being unfinished or buggy, but one thing nobody can deny: their writing is miles above Bioware's - that's a fact.

That is nowhere near being a fact.

[-Semper-]

simfamSP wrote...

My PC has managed to run the newest games this year and it's almost 5 years old and the XP version.

you tried to format your hdd, install an os with newest drivers (unequipping all additional hardware not needed for running the game) and then only steam and new vegas, patched up to date and without mods? btw i've searched the interwebs and there is nowhere a nerdrage because of constant ctds while saving.

there are ctds, but they are minor and absolutely not restricted to saving. the fault lies within your hardware and you can't blame obsidian for this.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Atakuma wrote...

jack_f wrote...

You can criticize Obsidian games for being unfinished or buggy, but one thing nobody can deny: their writing is miles above Bioware's - that's a fact.

That is nowhere near being a fact.

I don't know about fact, but in all honesty, Chris Avellone & George Zeits > Bioware.

[hoorayforicecream]

jack_f wrote...

You can criticize Obsidian games for being unfinished or buggy, but one thing nobody can deny: their writing is miles above Bioware's - that's a fact.

You might want to visit this link.

[-Semper-]

mrcrusty wrote...

I don't know about fact, but in all honesty, Chris Avellone & George Zeits > Bioware.

pls don't miss the jack of all trades sawyer.