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[ErichHartmann]

I stopped reading the list when I saw Bungie in the top ten.

[Chromie]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Yeah Bethesda are fantastic at making quality DLC. £2 Horse armour anyone?

$5 Hawke armor, $2 Appearance packs x2, Firepower pack, Equalizer Pack and Aegis Pack 160 points each.

Hmm Bethesda $2 horse armor or all the crap Bioware has released. Which is worse? Unlike the horse armor the weapon and armor packs are better then anything in the game which is why a lot of people probably bought them.

Modifié par Ringo12, 03 juin 2011 - 09:18 .

[Seagloom]

I never even heard of this "globally respected" annual list before today. If this list is such a big deal why is it only making news now? Because bashing BioWare is trendy now, that's why. Meh. I do think BioWare's software has fallen down several rungs in the last year, but this list is nothing more than sensationalist twaddle.

Modifié par Seagloom, 03 juin 2011 - 09:23 .

[Kinkaku]

Ok that list is very....off, weird or a little harsh. I mean not even the top 300?!? Yeah I don't think I can take that list seriously especially when the list uses Metacritic to decide it. <_<

Modifié par Kinkaku, 03 juin 2011 - 09:41 .

[Mick301981]

Lenimph wrote...

Accusing Bioware of milking it's user base when devCAT is on that list... *facehoof*

I have nothing of value to contribute to this topic, but the bolded part made me spit out my soda:lol:.

[Mir5]

Ringo12 wrote...

What? All the DLC for ME2, the missions I mean, are great! Arrival may be my least favorite but it's not bad.

If your talking about DA dlc then yea it's all bad. Shale was ok and I got her for free. All the other dlc was pretty bad.

Take off your pink glasses, Arrival sucked big, the worst mission in the series. Weak gameplay and story. Overlord was playable but mediocre. Didn't like Zaeed myself but some did. Kasumi was nice but overpriced. Lair was the only really good one and actually managed to be one of the best missions in the entire game.
Now a company that can't hold to its own standards surely doesn't deserve to get that much recognition. By that logic I understand the listing. Look at Rockstar: their games are the worst of the worst casual garbage in my eyes, but at least with their games you can expect them to be that certain kind of casual garbage every time. With Bioware games nowadays, most of the excitement comes from wondering what kind quality their next project will be. I myself adored Mass1, Mass2 was "wtf but okay lets see where this leads". Arrival and certain things about DA2's rushed quality keep me pretty much terrified for Mass3.

Modifié par Mir5, 03 juin 2011 - 09:47 .

[Romantiq]

That list is full of lame.

Modifié par Romantiq, 03 juin 2011 - 09:42 .

[Chromie]

Mir5 wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...

What? All the DLC for ME2, the missions I mean, are great! Arrival may be my least favorite but it's not bad.

If your talking about DA dlc then yea it's all bad. Shale was ok and I got her for free. All the other dlc was pretty bad.

Take off your pink glasses, Arrival sucked big, the worst mission in the series. Weak gameplay and story. Overlord was playable but mediocre. Didn't like Zaeed myself but some did. Kasumi was nice but overpriced. Lair was the only really good one and actually managed to be one of the best missions in the entire game.
Now a company that can't hold to its own standards surely doesn't deserve to get that much recognition. By that logic I understand the listing. Look at Rockstar: their games are the worst of the worst casual garbage in my eyes, but at least with their games you can expect them to be that certain kind of casual garbage every time. With Bioware games nowadays, most of the excitement comes from wondering what kind quality their next project will be. I myself adored Mass1, Mass2 was "wtf but okay lets see where this leads". Arrival and certain things about DA2's rushed quality keep me pretty much terrified for Mass3.

Right because you don't see me posting about how Bioware is sucking lately. Arrival is still better then any DAO dlc. Rockstar games are not casual. I doubt you know what that even means.

Modifié par Ringo12, 03 juin 2011 - 09:50 .

[Mir5]

Ringo12 wrote...

Rockstar games are not casual. I doubt you know what that even means.

Goes off-topic but I'll bite this one.

Let's talk about GTA 4 and RDR.
At their core they are dumbed down, unimaginative, grindfests in an empty dull world where you are forced strictly to follow a shallow, badly written, storyline that tries too hard to appeal to everyone. There is no learning curve, no challenge of any kind, no progress in gameplay, it doesn't require you to think at all. Babby's first freeroaming game.

[naughty99]

k177sh0t wrote...

Thread is not meant to bash @ BioWare, but im a bit shocked BioWare wasnt even included.

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More importantly, why did they leave Bethesda off the list.

I don't know what is supposed to be useful or relevant to anyone about this arbitrary collection of metacritic scores, mainly featuring developers of portable games for 3DS, PSP and iOS.

Seems to be over-favoring japanese devs. (Maybe less metacritic trolls live in Japan?)

1 Nintendo EAD Tokyo (Japan)
2 2D Boy (USA)
3 ZeptoLab (Russia)
4 SCE Santa Monica (USA)
5 Blizzard Entertainment (USA)
6 Media Vision (Japan)
7 1337 Game Design (Sweden)
8 Bungie Software (USA)
9 Rockstar Leeds (UK)
10 TheCodingMonkeys (Germany)
11 One Man Left (USA)
12 Jean-Francois Geyelin (France)
13 Playdead (Denmark)
14 Fishlabs (Germany)
15 Matt Rix (Canada)
16 Firaxis Games (USA)
17 Dicework Games (Finland)
18 Rocketcat Games (USA)
19 Nicalis (USA)
20 Crescent Moon Games (USA)
21 Team Meat (USA)
22 Gaia (Japan)
23 Kojima Productions (Japan)
24 Armor Games (USA)
25 Hemisphere Games (Canada)
26 EA DICE (Sweden)
27 Art in Games (Slovakia)
28 Rockstar North (UK)
29 Chair Entertainment (USA)
30 Retro Studios (USA)
31 Game Freak (Japan)
32 FreeStyleGames (UK)
33 Venan Entertainment (USA)
34 Treasure (Japan)
35 Indies Zero (Japan)
36 Good-Feel (Japan)
37 Nex Entertainment (Japan)
38 Kairosoft (Japan)
39 Grumpyface Studios (USA)
40 YoYo Games (UK)
41 Curve Studios (UK)
42 Ready at Dawn (USA)
43 Firemint (Australia)
44 JohnnyTwoShoes (UK)
45 Three Rings (USA)
46 Hello Games (UK)
47 Revolution (UK)
48 Treehouse (Finland)
49 Majic Jungle Software (New Zealand)
50 Sanzaru Games (USA)
51 Eighting (Japan)
52 2K Marin (USA)
53 The Behemoth (USA)
54 Straandlooper (UK)
55 Pixelocity Software (USA)
56 Bad Monkee (Germany)
57 Indeeo (USA)
58 Relic (Canada)
59 Arc System Works (Japan)
60 Fallen Tree Games (UK)
61 Grasshopper Manufacture (Japan)
62 Retro Dreamer (USA)
63 OtherWise Games (USA)
64 Treyarch (USA)
65 Mercury Steam (Spain)
66 PopCap (USA)
67 PlatinumGames (Japan)
68 Polyphony Digital (Japan)
69 Codemasters Birmingham (UK)
70 Bryan Mitchell (USA)
71 Crystal Dynamics (USA)
72 Rockstar San Diego (USA)
73 Big Pixel Studios (UK)
74 Simogo (Sweden)
75 Madfinger Games (Czech Republic)
76 Chaotic Box (Canada)
77 Lazy 8 Studios (USA)
78 Cave (Japan)
79 The Iconfactory (USA)
80 Imangi Studios (USA)
81 Project Soul (South Korea)
82 HAL Labs (Japan)
83 Harmonix Music Systems (USA)
84 Wandake (USA)
85 Funcom (Norway)
86 iQubi (South Korea)
87 Indiagames (India)
88 TU Wien (Austria)
89 Broken Rules (Austria)
90 Avalanche Studios (Sweden)
91 Vigil Games (USA)
92 Other Ocean Interactive (Canada)
93 devCAT (South Korea)
94 Atlus (Japan)
95 Big Bucket Software (Australia)
96 Miniclip.com (UK)
97 Spacetime Studios (USA)
98 BigStack Studios (Canada)
99 Blue Carrot Games (Denmark)
100 EasyGameStation (Japan)

Modifié par naughty99, 03 juin 2011 - 10:24 .

[Chromie]

Mir5 wrote...

Ringo12 wrote...

Rockstar games are not casual. I doubt you know what that even means.

Goes off-topic but I'll bite this one.

Let's talk about GTA 4 and RDR.
At their core they are dumbed down, unimaginative, grindfests in an empty dull world where you are forced strictly to follow a shallow, badly written, storyline that tries too hard to appeal to everyone. There is no learning curve, no challenge of any kind, no progress in gameplay, it doesn't require you to think at all. Babby's first freeroaming game.

I agree GTA 4 is bad. But RDR you seem to have a personal hate for them.  GTA 4 does have  alot more then other Grand Theft Auto's so I have no idea how it's dumbed down or shallow. I own the game on Steam it has 2 hours play time that's it so I don't care for it but I do see it as an improvement. 

[Beerfish]

BioWare holds the top 9 out of 10 list of developers.

BioWare
BioWare
BioWare
BioWare
BioWare
BioWare
BioWare
BioWare
BioWare
Some other guys.

(List compiled by Beerfish, some guy no one ever heard of whose opinion should be equally meaningless.)

[Korusus]

naughty99 wrote...

k177sh0t wrote...

Thread is not meant to bash @ BioWare, but im a bit shocked BioWare wasnt even included.

Source:

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More importantly, why did they leave Bethesda off the list.

The list is only for content developed and delivered in 2010.  Bethesda released nothing as a developer in 2010, only as a publisher.  

It's sad to see how far BioWare has fallen.  This was supposed to be a great year for them...not going well so far 

[naughty99]

Korusus wrote...

naughty99 wrote...

k177sh0t wrote...

Thread is not meant to bash @ BioWare, but im a bit shocked BioWare wasnt even included.

Source:

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Two


Three

More importantly, why did they leave Bethesda off the list.

The list is only for content developed and delivered in 2010.  Bethesda released nothing as a developer in 2010, only as a publisher.  

OK that certainly makes a bit more sense.

[Rockworm503]

this list means nothing to me and I didn't even bother to look.

[outlaw1109]

Beerfish wrote...

BioWare holds the top 9 out of 10 list of developers.

BioWare
BioWare
BioWare
BioWare
BioWare
BioWare
BioWare
BioWare
BioWare
Some other guys.

(List compiled by Beerfish, some guy no one ever heard of whose opinion should be equally meaningless.)

QFT.

You should start a new thread and post about how this actually blew your mind....

[Rockworm503]

Mir5 wrote...

Goes off-topic but I'll bite this one.

Let's talk about GTA 4 and RDR.
At their core they are dumbed down, unimaginative, grindfests in an empty dull world where you are forced strictly to follow a shallow, badly written, storyline that tries too hard to appeal to everyone. There is no learning curve, no challenge of any kind, no progress in gameplay, it doesn't require you to think at all. Babby's first freeroaming game.

LOL spoken like someone who has clearly not played them and just has a problem with Rockstar just cause its the cool thing to do.
Take off auto aim in RDR and tell me there is no challenge.
Play online in hardcore and tell me there is no learning curve.
RDR is the complete opposite of everything you said with one of the best endings to a story ever.

[Chromie]

GTA IV sucks though.

[Rockworm503]

Ringo12 wrote...

GTA IV sucks though.

Should I actually respond to this?
give me some reasons jeez.
I also found GTA IV to be great.  Admittedly it was ported badly to PC and the console version has shoddy controls.

[Chromie]

Well they basically said we hate you PC users.

[Rockworm503]

LOL oh I see putting words in Rockstar mouths because they haven't been doing much for PC users.

Get over it I bought a damn PS3 so I could play RDR don't see me complaining that they said they hate me.
Its a business there can easily be a hundred different reasons why they don't port to PC.
+ it gave me the chance to get LA Noire and if anyone says thats a dumbed down stupid game I'mma laugh in their faces.

Modifié par Rockworm503, 03 juin 2011 - 11:37 .

[FiachSidhe]

No offense, but even if Bioware occupied the top five entries on this list, why should anyone care? I've never even heard of Develop till now, and they're the only people I've seen leave Bioware off of any list of quality developer studios.

To be fair, most indy companies beat out professionals in terms of drive and creativity. Because they have to, and they aren't dominated by bottom line publishers.I'm not surprised a lot of smaller unknowns are on that list.

Modifié par FiachSidhe, 04 juin 2011 - 12:06 .

[Chromie]

Rockworm503 wrote...

LOL oh I see putting words in Rockstar mouths because they haven't been doing much for PC users.

Get over it I bought a damn PS3 so I could play RDR don't see me complaining that they said they hate me.
Its a business there can easily be a hundred different reasons why they don't port to PC.
+ it gave me the chance to get LA Noire and if anyone says thats a dumbed down stupid game I'mma laugh in their faces.

What the hell? I said GTA IV sucks not RDR calm down. Have you played GTA 4 on PC? If you haven't don't talk. I OWN RDR on a 360. I prefer GTA on PC because of mods. Maybe you should laugh at yourself your just making assumptions. L.A Noire is a great game but after beating it there is no need for me to play it again.

[neppakyo]

Hehe hehe hahaha.

This amuses me.

Don't worry, EA takes these kind of lists seriously, like metacritic.

[erynnar]

I have to say never heard of the list before now...so, *shrugs* Doesn't mean much.