TomY90 wrote...
Too be honest I understand why bioware are trying to back away from such things considering they are becoming more mainstream (do not mean it as an insult) which means that they cannot do certain things which one of those things which I believe is nowadays more socially acceptable in both games, tv shows, films and in everyday life is nudity.
But there is still a strong stigma to nudity having a relation to what appears to be pornographic scenes which if you see the current trend in media you can see what is considering what is pornographic is reducing further.
Just look at the TV series ROME, Game Of Thrones, Broadwalk Empire etc you can see they all have nudity which they do get consider less and less to actually aid the story telling because you feel that the characters in the story are more real because everyone knows that you do not do what you do fully clothed you do it wearing barely anything or not at all which is what these TV series portray which i believe is Bang On.
There used to be a few films at one point with scenes of nudity (the most recent I remember has to be sin city, 300 and watchmen) which granted they seemed to do it more for the sake of nudity but they do in a way add more emotion to a scene especially considering I doubt in real life you would do it with your wife clothed (300) or have a passionate scene with someone you met in the bar who is way out of league without getting as much as you can for it (sin city).
The issue the game industry is having to do is find a balance that the television industry and the film industry have found, for one I agree that nudity for the sake of nudity is just trying to get teenagers to play it more (and again) which The Witcher 2 fell into that trap with having sex scenes that feel un natural (due to the sheer levels of nudity and how the scenes come about) nor would a film or tv series use to such an extent that level of nudity at all (becomes pornographic).
Heavy Rain managed to do the same as well at points with one of the female lead character (Madison Paige) being obsessed with getting her naked and often zooming into her rack at some scenes (the shower scene springs to mind) which such scenes was not necessary it was just something to make you feel attracted in a way to her and make teenagers want more.
The mass effect series so far has struck a balance of having sexual scenes where needed but in ME3 I do think nudity levels will have to be increased because the relationship dynamics will be different in ME3 because the characters will be much more emotionally involved especially if you have been dating them since ME1 so naturally they will be more intimate with one another.
However I do not want them to become something like Heavy Rain or The Witcher 2 which is nudity for the sake of nudity it has to feel natural and real as if they emotionally attached not just trying to give the gamer a dirty thrill.
If such a balance a struck (which DA2 missed by more than a country mile especially when it is the maximum age rating in the UK ) that ME1 was not too far away (well done considering it was a 12 in the UK) and ME2 was closer (about what you would expect from a 15 in the UK) to getting the balance right.
Which I do expect ME3 to be an 18 due to the story being much more darker, gruesome and likely need more blood, violence, strong violence etc (which should open biowares options further)
That is my opinion that i say yes to nudity but in moderation.
P.S. Sorry for the essay
No need to apologize for the essay. It was a good read.
Personally, I thought the part about not meaning "mainstream" as an insult was pretty key here. To me, I think that is the big issue that Bioware has. They aren't the same company that made them great to begin with.
When they were a growing company, and in particular before EA bought them, they weren't afraid to take chances in order to be great. You don't become truly great without taking a certain amount of risk.
An example of this is in Knights of the Old Republic where you have, guess what, a same-sex romance option before it became mainstream. It was daring and it was well-done and not at all gratuitous, but it was a risk at the time. This is the same approach that CD Projekt Red now has that Bioware does not.
Say what you will about where CD Projekt Red draws the line and whether or not some of what they do is or is not gratuitous, but they're doing something that nobody else is at the moment. They're not shying away from controversy.
Rape, torture, incest, racism...it's all there. Even more so, they're PROUD of not shying away from any of it. They're telling their story, and if that story happens to have a scene where a topless woman is being tortured because that's what would happen in the setting that their story is based in given the political circumstances around how the woman got where she was...then so be it.
Bringing up KOTOR again, they had a similar scene of a female character being tortured. (Not topless, but certainly a dark scene.)
In an age where everyone else is going after the same Call of Duty audience, CD Projekt Red is saying, "You know what, we'd rather be a big fish in a smaller pond than yet another small fish in the big ocean."
The correct amount of "side boob" to show is the amount needed to give the scene emotional impact, not the precise amount needed to avoid getting Fox News or some parent somewhere upset at you because you broke up 20 hours of non-stop violence with a little bit of blue skinned boobie.
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And yea, Geralt was too deep in love with Yennefer to cheat on her, even with Triss. Obviously CD Projekt took creative liberties on designing the character, but I believe they still did an admirable job.
