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[LyndseyCousland]

=/ I prefer it this way.

[LyndseyCousland]

yaw wrote...

I just think it's better to have some bisexual, some straight, even some purely homosexual characters all mixed up, instead of having access to every single LI. 

Wait, this is what I agree with. Not the verging on bigoted responses some folk have posted.

[Maria Caliban]

Anathemic wrote...

Or they can stick do what they did in ME, ME2, and DA:O where LI's has their specific sexuality....

Where straight PCs has access to all the LI's they'd be interested while queer PCs got had few or no options?

That's a big NO for me.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Diversity is ideal. Some straight, some homosexual, others bisexual. I don't like the rather shoehorned approach that Dragon Age 2 took, though I understand due to time limitations, there probably wasn't much choice.

[Merilsell]

yaw wrote...

I just think it's better to have some bisexual, some straight, even some purely homosexual characters all mixed up, instead of having access to every single LI.

This. Very much. It would be more believable this way too, because you can't always get what you want.

[mellifera]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

Or they can stick do what they did in ME, ME2, and DA:O where LI's has their specific sexuality....

Where straight PCs has access to all the LI's they'd be interested while queer PCs got had few or no options?

That's a big NO for me.

Agreed. I find it kind of funny that wish fulfillment in video games is a-ok when everyone is straight. Otherwise complain complain complain about how forced and hamfisted it is.

[Monica83]

for me all romancable character or majority romancable character means:poor narrative

[Esbatty]

Merilsell wrote...

yaw wrote...

I just think it's better to have some bisexual, some straight, even some purely homosexual characters all mixed up, instead of having access to every single LI.

This. Very much. It would be more believable this way too, because you can't always get what you want.

Legion.

[ReiSilver]

hey if we wanted restrictive LIs why don't we take advantage of the personality tracking with diplomatic/sarcastic/blunt Hawke only having access to certain LIs? After all some personalities just do not mesh or do not attract each other. It makes as much sense as restricting it to gender and that way more people will feel left out!
I honestly think the four LIs being available to any Hawke is one of the few things done right. Not everyone is bi, look at Aveline and Varric, they just don't happen to be interested in Hawke anyway. So you have your available LIs and your non LIs, you can still have strong friendships with characters you aren't romancing and no one gets left out because of sexuality.
Why is being inclusive SUCH a problem?

[TheBlackBaron]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Anathemic wrote...

Or they can stick do what they did in ME, ME2, and DA:O where LI's has their specific sexuality....

Where straight PCs has access to all the LI's they'd be interested while queer PCs got had few or no options?

That's a big NO for me.

Because nobody ever wanted to romance Garrus or Tali in ME1 with their straight Shepard, and nobody ever wanted to romance Samara or Kasumi (hell, I've seen Zaeed's name come up) in ME2 with the same...?

You have a point, there 'ought to be more options (which is why I say there needs to be a mix of hetero/bi/******), but it's not like straight PCs get to run around having sex with anybody of the opposite sex they want. 

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 04 juin 2011 - 09:43 .

[Loain]

Is all the love interests being bisexual, Hawkesexual or quantumsexual unrealistic and kind of silly? You bet it is! So what though. It's a game, if I wanted reality I wouldn't play games like this.
I also think sexuality should never be tied to someones character. It's just to, limiting.

[SilentK]

Well, as long as the content is being used. Merrill and Izzy are romantic interests to F!Hawkes when people play the game and likewise Fenris and Anders are romanced by M!Hawke when people play the game. Then I don't think that they will change it. Why remove something that is widely used and a popular choice by people in game. If no one who plays DA2 has a s/s-relation in game I don't think that they would put as much work into it. Guess we will just have to see if it was a popular choice or not. I romanced Merrill with a F!Hawke at least =) and it was a really sweet romance!

[Huntress]

I don't care if they are all Bi, it doesn't matter to me. Now all Li been humans is a big no.
And having a choice of playing just Females and having all this companion able to be persuit in a romance is a great idea, I've tryed making a male character to romance Morrigan, well I still haven't been able to romance her.

Isabela and Merril romances are very good, I do prefer Alistair, then Fenris and then Anders..

[88mphSlayer]

Esbatty wrote...

Merilsell wrote...

yaw wrote...

I just think it's better to have some bisexual, some straight, even some purely homosexual characters all mixed up, instead of having access to every single LI.

This. Very much. It would be more believable this way too, because you can't always get what you want.

Legion.

Harbinger

[Cutlass Jack]

88mphSlayer wrote...
Harbinger

I know you feel this.

[Akka le Vil]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Where straight PCs has access to all the LI's they'd be interested while queer PCs got had few or no options?

That's a big NO for me.

Someone ask for having a "bit of everything", and you equate this with "every LI are available for straight character ?
Care to explain how a straight character could have access to a gay opposite-sex one ?

And gay characters having less options than straight is rather logical. But you already shown that logic isn't your forte, so it's not surprising this does elude you.

Modifié par Akka le Vil, 04 juin 2011 - 12:25 .

[bleetman]

Akka le Vil wrote...

Care to explain how a straight character could have access to a gay opposite-sex one ?

And gay characters having less options than straight is rather logical. But you already shown that logic isn't your forte, so it's not surprising this does elude you.

Considering that there isn't a single homosexual-romance-only character in the first place, I have no idea what point you're trying to make.

This topic continues to give me such a warm, fuzzy glow inside. It's delightful to see how riled up people get over something which pleases others, but is completely and utterly inconsequential to themselves. Woo hoo.

Modifié par bleetman, 04 juin 2011 - 12:36 .

[xkg]

All romances are optional - means - you don't like it you don't have to follow it.
So what's the big deal guys ?
Complaining just for the sake of complaining ?

Ps. This remind me about The Witcher's optional sex cards and peeps whinning about that.

[Akka le Vil]

bleetman wrote...

Considering that there isn't a single homosexual-romance-only character in the first place, I have no idea what point you're trying to make.

I've reformulated it 11 minutes before you quoted me, because, yes, the first version was not clear enough.

This topic continues to give me such a warm, fuzzy glow inside. It's delightful to see how riled up people get over something which pleases others, but is completely and utterly inconsequential to themselves. Woo hoo.

Well, I prefer artistic integrity and depth over being catered to like a whimsical child.
I guess it makes me looking down with pity at this rather than having a shot of puerilistic guile.

[MegaBadExample]

It's horrible. I was okay with Leliana and Zevran being Gay in Origins. In my opinion, Anders and Merrill should have been straight and Fenris and Isabela should have been both.

I hope BioWare don't do this again.

[Siven80]

The DA2 companions were quite weak in that they had little character.

When i compare them to the TW2 characters i find myself preferring the TW2 characters as they seem to have personalities and ideals that clearly define them far better than the DA2 characters are.

Part of the weakness of DA2s companions imo is that they are all bisexual in an attempt to pander to all fans, rather than having all out straight, gay or bisexual characters which imo would strengthen them as characters.

It was just blatent pandering and laziness. And i know several homosexual and bisexual friends who agree with me.

Modifié par Siven80, 04 juin 2011 - 01:35 .

[Huntress]

And I hope am not forced to play X character to be able to romance Y character..
DA2 doesn't force me to play a male character to persuit Merril or Isabela and thats an improvement.
Is true I have more character that end with males relations that females, but am not concerned/ or care if this characters are Bi.

[jlb524]

Akka le Vil wrote...

And gay characters having less options than straight is rather logical. But you already shown that logic isn't your forte, so it's not surprising this does elude you.

Logical?  Who cares...we are talking about a video game in which you can shoot fire from your hands.  The Origins romances were far far from logical.

I still maintain that Origins was no better than DA2 as far as this "Hawkesexual" concept goes (or, "Wardensexaul").

Facts:

1)  Any race could romance any LI, even dwarves and elves, in spite of the former pairing with humans/elves being ridiculously rare in lore and in game, and the latter pairing with humans being a bit taboo.  Regardless, the romances with say, Allistair/Morrigan/Leliana and an elf played out similarily regardless of race and these all happened in a rather short time period (hell, in a few months, Morrigan will jump into bed with a dwarf).   The issue still exists with the elves in DA2, but these romances don't really start to play out until after three years.

2)  As mentioned previously, Alistair (and possibly even Leliana) have no qualms about romancing a blood mage.

3)  You can kill a kid (Conner) and still have Leliana fall in love with you:  buy her a cute nug!  Is Morrigan disapproving of all your selfless goody deeds?  Just buy her a bunch of jewelery....she'll love you, even if she's annoyed by everything you do.

The DA2 companions actually seem 'less' Hawkesexual in this case, as you can't simply just gift the hell out of them and must act consistintly with them throughout all 3 acts in order to get their friend/rival bar to a high enough level for romance.

As far as past sexual history goes, you have Zevran (who's Zevran) and Leliana (Marjolaine) but beyond that, there's Alistair the virgin and Morrigan who only had sex with men b/c her mother forced her (she could even be lesbian for all we know).  Not sure how this is all that different from DA2's cast...

So, it all comes down to...what?  The minor differences in gender restrictions between the DA:O cast and the DA2 ones...do people believe gay or lesbian PCs don't deserve as many options as heterosexual ones?  Are they upset they have to 'share' their LI with the opposite gender {C even when already sharing them with others of the same gender?  I don't get it.