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Mesina2 wrote...

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Dude.

Racist jokes ain't cool.


Should I delete that post and play it safe? I didn't mean to offend anyone. It was not meant to be taken seriously.

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Cheesy Blue wrote...

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@Cheesy Blue

Dude.

Racist jokes ain't cool.


Should I delete that post and play it safe? I didn't mean to offend anyone. It was not meant to be taken seriously.


You've apologised and I believe you. That said, you know what people can be like on here; they just can't let some things go... 

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@black raptor wow didnt know dis existed.... thanks guna add it 2 my favs. perhaps my fustrations and headaches can now be relieved. Your character's face looks different ingame thus i would restart the whole damn game which will result in me wasting bout 10-15 mins watching miranda talking 2 the illusive man, and playing the part where shepard dies just to make another face. -_-

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LMFAO obama shepard

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I sense trololololing. It is strong with this one.

Modifié par VictorianTrash, 04 juin 2011 - 10:39 .


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Not sure if serious..

I have a rather good-looking Asian male Shepard in ME1 (haven't imported him to ME2 yet) so I don't think the OP is trying very hard.

Also smells like a troll, given the username and the join date.

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Meh, who cares if he's a troll? He's made a good point.

EDIT: What makes him a troll, anyway? Because he doesn't approve of something Bioware has done? I can't see how he's trying to start an argument or cause offence with his post at all. 

Modifié par DuckSoup, 04 juin 2011 - 10:43 .


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im serious ^ -_- perhaps my ****iness makes dis thread trollish.

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I saw no point. Just a lot of vanity and unwarranted self-importance.The character creator is just fine. I've never understood how so many people have trouble with it. Besides, why do you want to live vicariously through Shepard, going as far as to have him/her look like you? A little strange, though that's my opinion; I'm sure a lot of people will disagree with it.

Modifié par VictorianTrash, 04 juin 2011 - 10:45 .


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ChristianSoldier wrote...

@black raptor wow didnt know dis existed.... thanks guna add it 2 my favs. perhaps my fustrations and headaches can now be relieved. Your character's face looks different ingame thus i would restart the whole damn game which will result in me wasting bout 10-15 mins watching miranda talking 2 the illusive man, and playing the part where shepard dies just to make another face. -_-

I have felt your pain many a time. 

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There honesty is one thing ME face editors lack and I'm surprised it wasn't changed in ME1>ME2 process... face rotation. Seriously, is it that hard to include a model rotation so you can see the face from all angles before waiting another 10 minutes of cutscenes to see it ingame?

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DuckSoup wrote...

Meh, who cares if he's a troll? He's made a good point.

EDIT: What makes him a troll, anyway? Because he doesn't approve of something Bioware has done? I can't see how he's trying to start an argument or cause offence with his post at all. 


What is the good point that he is making?

It's totally possible to make an Asian character in-game, whether it looks just like the OP or not I don't know but Bioware can't provide an infinite number of choices in the character creation system. How many games have you played with a protagonist that looks just like you? How is that NOT narcsisstic and self-indulgent and frankly, rather selfish? Couldn't those resources be spent some where more important?

Troll checklist:

- Silly username/username meant to rile people up (ChristianSoldier? Really?)

- Joined recently only to post this complaint

- Is totally obsesed with himself and wants Bioware to treat him with more specialness than the rest of their customer base

Modifié par leonia42, 04 juin 2011 - 10:47 .


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Mr.Kusy wrote...

There honesty is one thing ME face editors lack and I'm surprised it wasn't changed in ME1>ME2 process... face rotation. Seriously, is it that hard to include a model rotation so you can see the face from all angles before waiting another 10 minutes of cutscenes to see it ingame?


This.

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lol i'm not a troll damnit!!! you seem 2 forget the most important point im trying to make here. I want a shepard that LOOKS LIKE ME. And I have tried hard to make one and i cant. I have another account that was made a year and a half ago, but i forgot the password to that one.

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Mr.Kusy wrote...

There honesty is one thing ME face editors lack and I'm surprised it wasn't changed in ME1>ME2 process... face rotation. Seriously, is it that hard to include a model rotation so you can see the face from all angles before waiting another 10 minutes of cutscenes to see it ingame?


This, however, IS a good point and is not ladden with troll-ish language. Well done, Kusy.

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I saw no point. Just a lot of vanity and unwarranted self-importance.The character creator is just fine. I've never understood how so many people have trouble with it. Besides, why do you want to live vicariously through Shepard?


You saw no point? There was very definitely a point there. I'm afraid I disagree that wanting your character to look like you is "vain" - I always want my characters to look similar to me on my first play through at least.

I think you're missing the point that the default options for Shep are extremely limited. I don't want my Shep to look like everyone else's Shep. That's not unwarranted importance, that's a preference. 

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I'm with the rotation. That's something they should include in ME3.

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Sometimes it's not what you say but how you say it.

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leonia42 wrote...

Sometimes it's not what you say but how you say it.


And there you go. Exactly.

Modifié par VictorianTrash, 04 juin 2011 - 10:50 .


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leonia42 wrote...

DuckSoup wrote...

Meh, who cares if he's a troll? He's made a good point.

EDIT: What makes him a troll, anyway? Because he doesn't approve of something Bioware has done? I can't see how he's trying to start an argument or cause offence with his post at all. 


What is the good point that he is making?

It's totally possible to make an Asian character in-game, whether it looks just like the OP or not I don't know but Bioware can't provide an infinite number of choices in the character creation system. How many games have you played with a protagonist that looks just like you? How is that NOT narcsisstic and self-indulgent and frankly, rather selfish? Couldn't those resources be spent some where more important?

Troll checklist:

- Silly username/username meant to rile people up (ChristianSoldier? Really?)

- Joined recently only to post this complaint

- Is totally obsesed with himself and wants Bioware to treat him with more specialness than the rest of their customer base

Not infinite options, just a few tweaks would make it great. There are plenty of other games which allow a much greater degree of customisation, so it's not asking too much for bioware to add a couple more hairstyles, skin colours, or full rotation so you can see exactly how your Shepard looks instead of waiting for the unskipable intro to finish.   

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leonia42 wrote...

DuckSoup wrote...

Meh, who cares if he's a troll? He's made a good point.

EDIT: What makes him a troll, anyway? Because he doesn't approve of something Bioware has done? I can't see how he's trying to start an argument or cause offence with his post at all. 


What is the good point that he is making?

It's totally possible to make an Asian character in-game, whether it looks just like the OP or not I don't know but Bioware can't provide an infinite number of choices in the character creation system. How many games have you played with a protagonist that looks just like you? How is that NOT narcsisstic and self-indulgent and frankly, rather selfish? Couldn't those resources be spent some where more important?

Troll checklist:

- Silly username/username meant to rile people up (ChristianSoldier? Really?)

- Joined recently only to post this complaint

- Is totally obsesed with himself and wants Bioware to treat him with more specialness than the rest of their customer base


Lol, you're bringing his name into this? Oh my god... 

And yes, he's posted a complaint, but he was hardly trolling. Why do people get so offended when someone states their opinion about the way Bioware have done something? It's like they're attacking your golf buddy.

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DuckSoup wrote...

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I saw no point. Just a lot of vanity and unwarranted self-importance.The character creator is just fine. I've never understood how so many people have trouble with it. Besides, why do you want to live vicariously through Shepard?


You saw no point? There was very definitely a point there. I'm afraid I disagree that wanting your character to look like you is "vain" - I always want my characters to look similar to me on my first play through at least.

I think you're missing the point that the default options for Shep are extremely limited. I don't want my Shep to look like everyone else's Shep. That's not unwarranted importance, that's a preference. 


I've yet to see two Shepards that look exactly the same facially (limited hairstyles, obviously, are the biggest draw-back if you're playing it unmodded). The spectrum of differences is wider than people think. All I have to say on that.

Modifié par VictorianTrash, 04 juin 2011 - 10:54 .


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I can remember casey hudson said that ME is each individual's story. Each of us IS Shepard. Therefore i want a shepard that resembles me.

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VictorianTrash wrote...

DuckSoup wrote...

VictorianTrash wrote...

I saw no point. Just a lot of vanity and unwarranted self-importance.The character creator is just fine. I've never understood how so many people have trouble with it. Besides, why do you want to live vicariously through Shepard?


You saw no point? There was very definitely a point there. I'm afraid I disagree that wanting your character to look like you is "vain" - I always want my characters to look similar to me on my first play through at least.

I think you're missing the point that the default options for Shep are extremely limited. I don't want my Shep to look like everyone else's Shep. That's not unwarranted importance, that's a preference. 


I've yet to see two Shepards that look exactly the same. The spectrum of differences is wider than people think. All I have to say on that.



Fair enough, we'll agree to disagree :)

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Since BIOWARE made Jade Empire, maybe they could put in Furious Ming's face or Prodigy Lu's face as defaults. I can go from there on out.