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[ADLegend21]

Rip504 wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

I'm loving all the "I'd sacrafice the galaxy for[insert one person]" I hope ther's a mutiny option for your Shepard's so the Galaxy and all your crew just go "Shepard's incompitent" and spaces you then saves the Galaxy on their own. Or maybe Harby goes:
"SHEPARD IS INCOMPITENT, LET'S GET HIM/HER AND LEAVE THE REST TO PROSPER"

 Lol I'm loving this comment. Thank you.!.

No THANK YOU!

[Quole]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Lets not go offtopic here. Respond to the OP or don't respond at all.

Personally I would sacrifice an entire protoss army. I mean, theres no other way you are going to get rid of it.

[Abispa]

The only one I wouldn't sacrifice is Urz. Every boy needs his dog.

[Someone With Mass]

Hellbound555 wrote...

cant we all agree to murder a sufficiant number of batarians until we reach the desired outcome?

Now, now. Batarians are not just enslaving douchebags.

Okay, they are, but they're still people. I think.

[KawaiiKatie]

I think I would save my love-interest before I saved an entire planet. Not in REAL LIFE, mind you, but in a video game, my love-interest is worth more than a thousand NPCs.

The same thing happened to me in Fable 2 and Fable 3. I chose "Love" instead of "Sacrifice" and I chose the life of my childhood sweertheart over the lives of a dozen civilians. Not the kindest choice, but it was just a video game and my love-interest was far more interesting to talk to than the faceless NPCs.

[Skilled Seeker]

Rip504 wrote...
I will not sacrifce Tali. Period. The galaxy for Tali yes.

That makes no sense. Tali dies either way if the galaxy is at stake.

Also Katie, this question is asked from a role play perspective. So if you were actually in Shepard's shoes. I take it you would sacrifice Tali then correct?

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 06 juin 2011 - 12:24 .

[DoNotIngest]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Rip504 wrote...
I will not sacrifce Tali. Period. The galaxy for Tali yes.

That makes no sense. Tali dies either way if the galaxy is at stake.

Also Katie, this question is asked from a role play perspective. So if you were actually in Shepard's shoes. I take it you would sacrifice Tali then correct?

Ah, but don't you see? The galaxy dies either way if Tali is at stake.

[Skilled Seeker]

Not if you allow Tali to be brutally murdered and ripped from limb to limb.

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 06 juin 2011 - 12:37 .

[DoNotIngest]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Not if you allow Tali to be brutally murdered and ripped from limb to limb.

Actually, the fabric of the galaxy is woven up into Tali's joint sockets. If you were to tear her limb from limb, the galaxy would just turn into a massive black hole and vanish.



True story. Go check your Codex, it's right up top.

Modifié par DoNotIngest, 06 juin 2011 - 12:41 .

[KawaiiKatie]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Also Katie, this question is asked from a role play perspective. So if you were actually in Shepard's shoes. I take it you would sacrifice Tali then correct?

All of my Shepards would save their love-interest before they saved anyone else, no matter how numerous the other party was. Even if the chocie was "The Reapers are going to get all of those planets OR YOUR LOVE INTEREST and you can ONLY SAVE ONE OF THEM" my Shepards would still pick his/her love-interest because they're selfish life that. Shepard makes so many sacrifices for the galaxy, the galaxy can afford to repay Shepard with the life of his/her beloved.

So, for me and my Shepards, the choice only becomes difficult if the situation is a Virmire choice, where you can only save one of your companions. Though, even in that case, my love-interest still wins.

[Skilled Seeker]

I see. As long as you acknowledge that it's a selfish evil decision, which you have done, that's fine by me But I'm asking, what if YOU were Shepard. Not what your Shepard's would do, but you personally.

[KawaiiKatie]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

But I'm asking, what if YOU were Shepard. Not what your Shepard's would do, but you personally.

That sounds like more of a personal "do you value the lives of one over the lives of many" philosophy question more than a Mass Effect question.... but okay, sure, I'll play your game. If I had the choice to sacrafice one friend to save the lives of millions, I'd do it.... unless that friend was screaming "SAVE ME, SAVE ME, FORGET THE REST, SAVE ME! I DON'T WANT TO DIE!"

In that case, I would save the friend. Because seriously, how could you say no to scared little Tali? I'm sure that Tali would actually be all noble and say "It's okay, my life isn't worth millions!" but if she wanted me to save her over the rest, no way I would turn her down.

[Rip504]

If we can't have love then what are we fighting for? If your LI dies in ME3 it will ruin the ending of ME3. Yes you may save the galaxy and stop the reapers,but you fail your LI. Now Shepard has to live the rest of their life knowing they failed to save their loved ones, and those who ment most to Shepard. I hope there are a few choices between these lives and one or more of your crew.

That way Renegades could have their full crew(Mission First at the cost of Hundreds of random lives or more.),and Paragons would feel the weight of their choices.(Less Squadmates dur to saving thousands of random lives or more.) My paragon will choose Tali over a few,and sacrifice others for the greater good. I highly doubt sacrificing one seintent being will be the difference in saving or destroying the galaxy. A Few hundred,or thousand,or maybe even Millions to billions,but not the entire galaxy. And I would gladly sacrifice those lives for Tali. Now other characters do not have that luxury!.

[leeboi2]

Would I sacrifice one person to save countless billions? Tough question...

[Skilled Seeker]

This is why relationships aren't allowed in the military. You join the military to protect those who cannot protect themselves, not the other way around.

[DoNotIngest]

If those millions and billions can't compensate for Tali, what use do they have, anyways? Reaper fodder, that's what! And you Don't Feed the Reapers

Modifié par DoNotIngest, 06 juin 2011 - 01:05 .

[Someone With Mass]

Too bad that Shepard isn't in the military anymore.

[DoNotIngest]

Neither is the Normandy, I have to add.

[Someone With Mass]

DoNotIngest wrote...

If those millions and billions can't compensate for Tali, what use do they have, anyways? Reaper fodder, that's what! And you Don't Feed the Reapers

I like the song better.

[Rip504]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

This is why relationships aren't allowed in the military. You join the military to protect those who cannot protect themselves, not the other way around.

And If I sacrifice how many ever for Tali and still save the Galaxy I accomplish this goal.

DoNotIngest wrote...

If those millions and billions can't compensate for Tali, what use do they have, anyways? Reaper fodder, that's what! And you Don't Feed the Reapers

Someone With Mass wrote...

Too bad that Shepard isn't in the military anymore.

Agreed.

[Skilled Seeker]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Too bad that Shepard isn't in the military anymore.

Doesn't matter, Shepard is responsible. To save 1 life out of selfish needs and let hundreds die is insane. Shepard knew what he/she was signing up for when he/she joined the military. If he/she didn't want to make these tough choices then they either shouldn't have joined the military or shouldn't have got into a relationship. The people you serve (in this case the entire galaxy and humanity in particular) should always come first.

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 06 juin 2011 - 01:12 .

[ADLegend21]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Too bad that Shepard isn't in the military anymore.

Actually they are. Normandy's an alliance vessel so shepard's an alliance Marine. therefore Military.

[KawaiiKatie]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

This is why relationships aren't allowed in the military. You join the military to protect those who cannot protect themselves, not the other way around.

Soooooooooo, what, you made this thread so that you can judge everyone who engaged in a romance in Mass Effect and would choose that love-interest over th elives of "helpless" NPCs? You're not leaving any room for discussion or debate!

Yes, I would choose my love-interest over faceless NPCs because my love-interest is way mor einteresting to talk to than NPCs, and because it's a video game. Also, I am not a member of the military! Shepard is, but I'm not Shepard. You keep narrowing the argument until there's nothing left except to agree with you.

Me: I would save my love-interest before I save the NPCs! It's just a video game.
You: But what if it was REAL?
Me: Then I would probably save the millions over my love-interest, but I'm not sure.
You: But choosing your lover over civilians is not what the military is about!
Me: I'm not in the military.
You: But Shepard is! What if YOU were Shepard and a military officer and it was all completely real!
Me: Then I would have Renegade interupted you by now.

Seriously, you need to leave room for debate and conversation. In the very specific perameters that you have set up, yes, if Shepard were real it would have been inappropriate for Shepard to have a romance and then choose his/her lover over the lives of civilians. But you're dismissing the fact that Shepard can be a lot of things, good, evil, selfish, romantic... Shepard doesn't even have to be totally loyal to the miliatry. Shepard can be rogue.

So yeah, if you keep narrowing the parameters of the question, you'll leave no room for anyone to disagree with you. If you want to be a Shepard who has no romance and is completely loyal to the Alliance, go for it, but don't tell us that it's the "right" choice, or that we're playing a military character incorrectly, because complete restrictions is not what Shepard is about.

[Someone With Mass]

ADLegend21 wrote...
Actually they are. Normandy's an alliance vessel so shepard's an alliance Marine. therefore Military.

My car is German. Does that make me a German?

[Skilled Seeker]

I've already said this discussion is strictly about if you were Shepard. Not from a gaming perspective. So the consequences are very real. And I know there are no right choices. You are free to make selfish evil choices. There are virtuous choices however which is what I'm defending.

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 06 juin 2011 - 01:21 .