This is a spam thread because i know the OP and he has never even played DA2. This is hate for the sake of hate. Why dont u play yhe game before u make a thread like this, kay Flayling? thanks.
Do you want Dragon Age 3 to continue From Dragon Age Origins or Dragon Age 2?
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#152
Posté 12 juin 2011 - 10:36
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If it left off where Origins ended, then it would be an entirely new story because there weren't too many questions at then end of Dragon Age: Origins and Awakening, but I'm almost positive it will leave off where Dragon Age 2 ended.
#153
Posté 13 juin 2011 - 05:10
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Flayling wrote...
Personally I want to see Dragon Age 3 continue where Dragon Age Origins left off. Then just pretend Dragon Age 2 never existed.
That would be ideal. As if DA2 never happened, no more than a dwarf's fantasy...
The sooner we can forget about that mistake and move on, the better.
#154
Posté 13 juin 2011 - 05:17
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I don't think it really matters so long as you can choose different races and origins again.
Instead of new Origins though, perhaps the variation could be in where the player chooses to set how the world has carried on after the events of both previous games.
Something similar to what Dragon Age 2 offered in terms of what happened with the Warden. You were able to import your save from Origins or choose from a few semi-canon endings. It's hard to tell how this impacted the game overall, but I figure in Dragon Age 3, if you had the choice of how things had turned out previously along with the choice of who or what your character could be, this would be pretty deep and satisfying.
I think utilizing the overarching elements of the story from both games would be a good step,
Flemmeth, Morrigan and her child. The Warden. The dissolving of the circles and chantry structure. The Qunari Invasion. The Architect. The Tevinter.
You have the makings of a new Exalted March, which is generally bigger than a Blight as it involved several continents at once.
One thing I can agree on is that we need not be required to continue with the Champion. I think this would be limiting more so than if we continued with the Warden.
I have a strong feeling that the great narrative arc of the series will involve not only Flemmeth but also the fate of Morrigan's child and the Iluvian portals. You'd almost HAVE to involve the Warden then. I can't see continuing the story without centering it around Flemmeth and her revenge against Morrigan either.
Flemmeth really is responsible for the Champions arrival in Kirkwallm as well as rescuing the Warden from Ostagar. She is the key. You can;t separate her from Morrigan either, so...it shall be interesting to see what the future holds.
Instead of new Origins though, perhaps the variation could be in where the player chooses to set how the world has carried on after the events of both previous games.
Something similar to what Dragon Age 2 offered in terms of what happened with the Warden. You were able to import your save from Origins or choose from a few semi-canon endings. It's hard to tell how this impacted the game overall, but I figure in Dragon Age 3, if you had the choice of how things had turned out previously along with the choice of who or what your character could be, this would be pretty deep and satisfying.
I think utilizing the overarching elements of the story from both games would be a good step,
Flemmeth, Morrigan and her child. The Warden. The dissolving of the circles and chantry structure. The Qunari Invasion. The Architect. The Tevinter.
You have the makings of a new Exalted March, which is generally bigger than a Blight as it involved several continents at once.
One thing I can agree on is that we need not be required to continue with the Champion. I think this would be limiting more so than if we continued with the Warden.
I have a strong feeling that the great narrative arc of the series will involve not only Flemmeth but also the fate of Morrigan's child and the Iluvian portals. You'd almost HAVE to involve the Warden then. I can't see continuing the story without centering it around Flemmeth and her revenge against Morrigan either.
Flemmeth really is responsible for the Champions arrival in Kirkwallm as well as rescuing the Warden from Ostagar. She is the key. You can;t separate her from Morrigan either, so...it shall be interesting to see what the future holds.
#155
Posté 13 juin 2011 - 05:17
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It should continue chronologically from DA2, because the possibility of some sort of holy war is far more interesting than more crap about darkspawn.
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#156
Posté 13 juin 2011 - 07:11
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Atakuma wrote...
It should continue chronologically from DA2, because the possibility of some sort of holy war is far more interesting than more crap about darkspawn.
This.
Depending on how much DLC/Expansion content we'll get for DAII. I'm waiting for those promised story DLC. The screenshots look lovely and given that they are taking their sweet time, I have a very good feeling about more DAII content.
#157
Posté 13 juin 2011 - 07:13
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AllThatJazz wrote...
I don't want to see a direct continuation of either game. My Warden's personal story is done and I'm assuming that Hawke's will be also, should I decide to purchase the (inevitable) dlc.
However, I much prefer the world state at the end of DA2 to that of Origins. End of Origins - there's peace and celebration and song, war is over, lalala etc. Which is all very nice, but conflict would have to be created from scratch again. The only really interesting scenario to me is if the Architect is still alive and the consequences of that. By the end of DA2, on the other hand, there's all-out war between mages and Templars/Chantry although some Templars are mage sympathisers, blood magic is seemingly on the rise but some mages despise it, the Qunari have been re-introduced as a mighty race and potential threat, there's tension between Ferelden and Orlais again. Lovely - loads of factions to join/betray, lots of conflict we can just jump into. There is also the potential for many more shades of grey, which I would personally enjoy very much.
But elements from both Origins and DA2 should be weaved in - what happened with Morrigan/the Eluvian and possible god-child? Where did the Warden disappear to and why? Are the other Old Gods stirring? Is Vengeance still alive? Is the Kirkwallhellmouthveil about to explode and turn the entire population into abominations? Okay, maybe not that last one.
Agree with shantisands' post much earlier in this thread - they need to take the positive things from both games and combine them into Something Amazing. Should be simple enough, right Bio?
ps It could be just me, but lots of factions, a potentially very large landscape, a whole world at war etc - seems DA3 might be gearing up to have a very large multiplayer component.
Forget what I said before. ^ This sums it up PERFECTLY.
#158
Posté 13 juin 2011 - 07:15
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New character doing the holy war that DA2 led to, the Darkspawn where boring and a story that involves them again does not peak my interest at all.
Also what AllThatJazz said.
Also what AllThatJazz said.
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#159
Posté 13 juin 2011 - 07:18
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From where DA2 left off play as either The Warden, Hawke or even both.
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Posté 13 juin 2011 - 07:18
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Atakuma wrote...
It should continue chronologically from DA2, because the possibility of some sort of holy war is far more interesting than more crap about darkspawn.
I'd like the world to be in turmoil because of the mage-templar war. But I want to explore that world without Hawke. I dislike the character. We're introduced to Hawke as a meme. Hawk is introduced as a Chuck Norris-type character. First impressions need to be good. And Hawke getting hit with the idiot-stick throughout the game made me dislike her even more.
#161
Posté 13 juin 2011 - 07:24
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Personally, I'd love to continue my Canon Lady Hawke's adventures. If not, then I'm all for a new protagonist. My Warden has had her run and I cannot see how she could be brought back at all.
#162
Posté 13 juin 2011 - 07:25
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I hope for dlc that ends Hawkes tale, though better then WH, that was a poor ending for the Warden.Persephone wrote...
Personally, I'd love to continue my Canon Lady Hawke's adventures. If not, then I'm all for a new protagonist. My Warden has had her run and I cannot see how she could be brought back at all.
#163
Posté 13 juin 2011 - 07:27
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Mr.House wrote...
I hope for dlc that ends Hawkes tale, though better then WH, that was a poor ending for the Warden.Persephone wrote...
Personally, I'd love to continue my Canon Lady Hawke's adventures. If not, then I'm all for a new protagonist. My Warden has had her run and I cannot see how she could be brought back at all.
DLC and at least one Awakening sized expansion. Pretty please, Bioware?
#164
Posté 13 juin 2011 - 07:29
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*gives Bioware big sad eeys* please?Persephone wrote...
Mr.House wrote...
I hope for dlc that ends Hawkes tale, though better then WH, that was a poor ending for the Warden.Persephone wrote...
Personally, I'd love to continue my Canon Lady Hawke's adventures. If not, then I'm all for a new protagonist. My Warden has had her run and I cannot see how she could be brought back at all.
DLC and at least one Awakening sized expansion. Pretty please, Bioware?
#165
Posté 13 juin 2011 - 07:32
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I personally want Dragon Age 3 to allow us to finish of our Wardens story, before we have to start a new one. I want new enemies to fight, whilst I'm on the search for my characters love or hate for Morrigan and the so called god-child. The game should start from the end of the Witch Hunt DLC, through the Eluvian. Seeing old faces (From origins and Dragon age 2) on the way whilst meeting new ones. Origins was a real blow mind RPG. A Re-union of all characters to defeat a powerful enemy? Your Wardens God-child assisting you or maybe he could be the powerful enemy?
#166
Posté 13 juin 2011 - 07:37
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You can do the god baby story without the Warden, the WH, even as a disapointment was the sad end to the Wardens tale and now Flemeth has her/him, doing bad things to the poor Warden.THE_LAST_GREY_WARDEN wrote...
I personally want Dragon Age 3 to allow us to finish of our Wardens story, before we have to start a new one. I want new enemies to fight, whilst I'm on the search for my characters love or hate for Morrigan and the so called god-child. The game should start from the end of the Witch Hunt DLC, through the Eluvian. Seeing old faces (From origins and Dragon age 2) on the way whilst meeting new ones. Origins was a real blow mind RPG. A Re-union of all characters to defeat a powerful enemy? Your Wardens God-child assisting you or maybe he could be the powerful enemy?
#167
Posté 13 juin 2011 - 07:48
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I don't know, maybe I'm weird in a way, but I was quite content with the WH end for my warden, even though it offered no actual conclusion to it, I don't like the idea of bringing back my warden if I can't play him exactly the way I want to - he would not fight the OGB even if it was a big bad - the way I played my warden and the end of WH where my warden walked trough the eluvian with Morrigan really was one of the most touching moments in all the games I've played (not counting PnP games) My Wardens only concern would be protecting Morrigan & the OGB - even if he does not know Morrigans exact plans for herself & the OGB, and he would do even some very questionable actions towards this end, despite being a good guy.
I can't deny however that I sometimes dream of my warden returning in a DA installment - a bit older, hairline receeding a bit, maybe a quite big scar on his face and looking genrally battle hardened to help some of the possible future DA-protagonist with dealing something (Flemeth) that is a threat to Morrigan & OGB, but if he wouldn't be exactly the way I want him to be - better let him rest in peace and save the toughts of him returning in the fan-fiction that goes trough my head.
I can't deny however that I sometimes dream of my warden returning in a DA installment - a bit older, hairline receeding a bit, maybe a quite big scar on his face and looking genrally battle hardened to help some of the possible future DA-protagonist with dealing something (Flemeth) that is a threat to Morrigan & OGB, but if he wouldn't be exactly the way I want him to be - better let him rest in peace and save the toughts of him returning in the fan-fiction that goes trough my head.
#168
Posté 13 juin 2011 - 08:29
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Nighteye2 wrote...
Flayling wrote...
Personally I want to see Dragon Age 3 continue where Dragon Age Origins left off. Then just pretend Dragon Age 2 never existed.
That would be ideal. As if DA2 never happened, no more than a dwarf's fantasy...
The sooner we can forget about that mistake and move on, the better.
well considering its all a tale and what they say in the room has no proof to back it up.
#169
Posté 13 juin 2011 - 11:49
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I doubt that they'll take off from DA:O, as much as I secretly hope for a DA:O2. I also doubt that we'll play as Hawke again, as they've said time and time again that the Dragon Age franchise is more about Thedas than any one person or place.
I really believe that they will pick up where they left off with the mage vs. templar war, and possibly with a war between Ferelden and Orlais (I think that was mentioned toward the end of DA2, that tensions were building between the two countries). I also feel confident it will be sent in Orlais. It seems like the most logical new place.
I just really, sincerely hope that they don't overdo it this time. I just want good writing and characters that are fleshed out and don't feel like caricatures
I really believe that they will pick up where they left off with the mage vs. templar war, and possibly with a war between Ferelden and Orlais (I think that was mentioned toward the end of DA2, that tensions were building between the two countries). I also feel confident it will be sent in Orlais. It seems like the most logical new place.
I just really, sincerely hope that they don't overdo it this time. I just want good writing and characters that are fleshed out and don't feel like caricatures
#170
Posté 14 juin 2011 - 12:08
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Both. I just want to play as a Qunari.
#171
Posté 14 juin 2011 - 02:06
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I dont believe WH is the end for the warden.After all in the end whatever your decision is there are some clues left behind that u never get to see.The only that knows what secrets are in these books are Warden and Morrigan as for the companions they cant really understand what is going because they dont know about the Ritual and the whole story about killing the archdemonMr.House wrote...
You can do the god baby story without the Warden, the WH, even as a disapointment was the sad end to the Wardens tale and now Flemeth has her/him, doing bad things to the poor Warden.THE_LAST_GREY_WARDEN wrote...
I personally want Dragon Age 3 to allow us to finish of our Wardens story, before we have to start a new one. I want new enemies to fight, whilst I'm on the search for my characters love or hate for Morrigan and the so called god-child. The game should start from the end of the Witch Hunt DLC, through the Eluvian. Seeing old faces (From origins and Dragon age 2) on the way whilst meeting new ones. Origins was a real blow mind RPG. A Re-union of all characters to defeat a powerful enemy? Your Wardens God-child assisting you or maybe he could be the powerful enemy?
#172
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 09:05
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Dragon age origins is the where DA3 will continue from and
the main character will be the warden ( the hero of ferelden) fully voiced
the main character will be the warden ( the hero of ferelden) fully voiced
#173
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 12:38
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Ideally, it will start after Dragon Age 2 but will incorporate elements from Origins.
Perhaps the decisions regarding the Mages Circle in Origins will have an impact, perhaps there will be appearances from Origins characters in the third game.
But it should start after the second game, the whole scenario is better suited to it. A world in meltdown, holy war between Mages and Templars, conspiracies and treason. It sets a scene for what could be an epic third installment. Hopefully you'll be able to continue as Hawke.
Despite the criticisms, I liked DA2 as much as Origins. Sure there are areas that let it down but lets not pretend that Origins was perfect by any stretch of the imagination. A combination of the two could solve the problems created by both games.
Perhaps the decisions regarding the Mages Circle in Origins will have an impact, perhaps there will be appearances from Origins characters in the third game.
But it should start after the second game, the whole scenario is better suited to it. A world in meltdown, holy war between Mages and Templars, conspiracies and treason. It sets a scene for what could be an epic third installment. Hopefully you'll be able to continue as Hawke.
Despite the criticisms, I liked DA2 as much as Origins. Sure there are areas that let it down but lets not pretend that Origins was perfect by any stretch of the imagination. A combination of the two could solve the problems created by both games.
#174
Posté 17 juin 2011 - 01:57
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I'd like to see a real progression from where DA:O was. Improvement on that kind of game - more content, more spells, more discoverability.
I haven't enjoyed seeing things needlessly gutted and overhauled, nor do I want time to stand still.
As for DA2, I'd personally rather it were an appendix to the Dragon Age 'verse, in both senses, I've no interest in seeing any of its gameplay style in DA:O whatsoever, and the sooner it can be forgotten about, the better in my book.
I haven't enjoyed seeing things needlessly gutted and overhauled, nor do I want time to stand still.
As for DA2, I'd personally rather it were an appendix to the Dragon Age 'verse, in both senses, I've no interest in seeing any of its gameplay style in DA:O whatsoever, and the sooner it can be forgotten about, the better in my book.
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Posté 17 juin 2011 - 02:34
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How many times and how many different ways can you tell the same story over and over again? I am of course referring to the Mage/Templar conflict that DA2 has supposedly set up so well.
Templar character who is sympathetic to the mages: Check.
Fanatic (misunderstood) blood mage conspiracy seeking to overthrow the Templars: Check.
Fanatic (misunderstanding) Templars who murder mages: Check.
Naive magic user that succumbs to the tempation of blood magic and warps into a demon at the worst possible moment: Check.
Reactionaries on both sides with irrational, homicidal and genocidal tendencies: Check.
In the same way that doing another blight would be uninteresting, focusing the entire plot of the game on mages and templars again would be...well, boring. There are no more complicated moral implications to consider at this point. I think most people who've followed the series have made up their minds...at most the Mage/Templar war provides a way to bring about drastic change quickly. But it shouldn't be the focus of the plot in DA3 by any means. Certainly not to the degree DA2's plot was focused on it.
And BioWare, please feel free to retcon DA2 as much as you like.
Templar character who is sympathetic to the mages: Check.
Fanatic (misunderstood) blood mage conspiracy seeking to overthrow the Templars: Check.
Fanatic (misunderstanding) Templars who murder mages: Check.
Naive magic user that succumbs to the tempation of blood magic and warps into a demon at the worst possible moment: Check.
Reactionaries on both sides with irrational, homicidal and genocidal tendencies: Check.
In the same way that doing another blight would be uninteresting, focusing the entire plot of the game on mages and templars again would be...well, boring. There are no more complicated moral implications to consider at this point. I think most people who've followed the series have made up their minds...at most the Mage/Templar war provides a way to bring about drastic change quickly. But it shouldn't be the focus of the plot in DA3 by any means. Certainly not to the degree DA2's plot was focused on it.
And BioWare, please feel free to retcon DA2 as much as you like.
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