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[Melca36]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Extrapolation much Melca? No one was saying that.

Ok maybe I did.

I still see no point in incorporating a child into the story. If people want that, theres fanfiction.

[Ryzaki]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Hawke as a parent?

The kid would be dead within the week a minute.

Fix'd, because Hawke couldn't be bothered to walk a few feet and save anyone.



Like Nyssa.

 

Point. 

Someone needs to make Hawke a GW stat. He can't be trusted with children. 

Sadly that only makes it incredibly hard for him to sire a child, but not impossible. It's only impossible if his LI is also a GW.

But I want to see little Merrill babies so I say we just kill the incarnation of Hawke we saw.

 

I'll get the gun if you pay for the bullets. 

[Maria Caliban]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

How about Hawke as a parent?

If the PC chooses, I have no problem with them having a child. I think it would be interesting and in character for at least one of my Hawkes.

Admittedly, the Hawke that wants to have a kid is gay, so she'd probably adopt.

My one reservation is BioWare's treatment of Hawke's family in DA II. After the loss of her family, a child would be a nice thematic element to show that life goes on, as well as actually give Hawke a reason to stay in Kirkwall, but I'd be afraid of Act III suddenly having a 'save your child or the burning alienage!' moment or a 'blood mages haz kidnapped your baby!' quest.

It's cheap and would make Hawke look like an idiot.

[Skilled Seeker]

Yeah Bioware really went to town on Hawke's family. And Hawke dealt with it with the emotion of a brick wall.

[Rifneno]

Ryzaki wrote...

I'll get the gun if you pay for the bullets. 

I know that trick. I'm not falling for it. That's a Lexmark gun. The bullets cost more than the gun.

Seriously though, why are people complaining about it being a choice or not? The choice is in the relationship. That's how nature works. If you don't want kids, don't have sex. That's just how it is in ages where people fight with swords.

[Ryzaki]

Rifneno wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I'll get the gun if you pay for the bullets. 

I know that trick. I'm not falling for it. That's a Lexmark gun. The bullets cost more than the gun.

Seriously though, why are people complaining about it being a choice or not? The choice is in the relationship. That's how nature works. If you don't want kids, don't have sex. That's just how it is in ages where people fight with swords.

 

XD

Didn't hear about Wynne's magical contraceptives did you? 

[Melca36]

Rifneno wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I'll get the gun if you pay for the bullets. 

I know that trick. I'm not falling for it. That's a Lexmark gun. The bullets cost more than the gun.

Seriously though, why are people complaining about it being a choice or not? The choice is in the relationship. That's how nature works. If you don't want kids, don't have sex. That's just how it is in ages where people fight with swords.

Condoms go back to the Middle Ages you know.

And they had birth control methods.....

Try Googling. Its amazing what historical tidbits you can pick up.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_condoms#Antiquity_to_the_Middle_Ages

Modifié par Melca36, 06 juin 2011 - 01:20 .

[LobselVith8]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

Someone needs to make Hawke a GW stat. He can't be trusted with children. 

Sadly that only makes it incredibly hard for him to sire a child, but not impossible. It's only impossible if his LI is also a GW.

But I want to see little Merrill babies so I say we just kill the incarnation of Hawke we saw.

Varric slandered Hawke to keep Cassandra from seeking him out...

And Hawke might be too busy leading a revolution ala the Dark Knight Returns.

[WhiteKnyght]

SurelyForth wrote...

Of all the LIs, only one of them isn't carting around a Nat Geo backlog of issues, and that's Isabela.

Fenris isn't even emotionally mature enough to talk about his relationship with Hawke.

Merrill is obsessed with her mirror.

Anders.

So...no. No babies, please. Especially stealth babies out of nowhere.

Out of nowhere? Being picked up by an Ogre and smashed into the ground five seconds into a fight is out of nowhere. Living with your spouse for three years in an age where contraception is practically nonexistent is completely reasonable and believable.

I don't see what the big deal is. Procreation is a pretty normal part of life. Besides nobody compalined about Morrigan getting herself knocked up just to let her baby become possessed by an old god's soul. And let's not forget the Baby Aeducan from the Male Dwarf Noble Origin.

Isabela and Fenris end the relationships between Act 2 and 3 and resume during act 3, but Merrill and Anders will actually live with Hawke for that time.

Also to what else has been said. Grey Wardens CAN have children. Alistair, Loghain, and the Warden can knock up Morrigan. And that elven warden Fiona got preggers with Maric's baby.

[Icy Magebane]

Abispa wrote...

You know, sometimes I laugh to myself thinking about Andres, Fenris, Isabela, Zevran, and/or Merrill meeting me at the doorway of my home, surrounded by our rug-rats, Fable-style.

"Daddy/Mommy! You're home! I've missed you! Did you get me a pressie? Come on, please!?"

Ah, yes. Good times.

But then I stop smoking crack and successfully complete rehab.

No... way... in... hell...

ROFL!!!  This.

[BlueMew]

Melca36 wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I'll get the gun if you pay for the bullets. 

I know that trick. I'm not falling for it. That's a Lexmark gun. The bullets cost more than the gun.

Seriously though, why are people complaining about it being a choice or not? The choice is in the relationship. That's how nature works. If you don't want kids, don't have sex. That's just how it is in ages where people fight with swords.

Condoms go back to the Middle Ages you know.

And they had birth control methods.....

Try Googling. Its amazing what historical tidbits you can pick up.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_condoms#Antiquity_to_the_Middle_Ages

Plus if you hear Wynne talk, it implies that mages have their own ways of contraception because they're not encouraged to have children. Hers was a bit of an exception.
Fiona and Alistair/Loghain was pretty much the other way around: that was all done by fiddling with magic. 

Oh, and no kids. Please. I know I'm supposed to be a woman and go all "BABIES!" {/end sarcasm}, but when I play a game I want to run around with swords and chain lightning and not whelp kids or take care of them. Yuk. 

That was also pretty much what was horrible about the Aerie romance (other than that it included Aerie). I don't want to have a stupid baby around! And if you are going to tiptoe through the pitfiends with it, why on earth does the other parent not have a say in its name. Quayle?!

Anyway, if someone has a facepalm moment and does put it in a game, please include the option not to. Thanks.

[Mickespel]

Allow the player to at some point make a choice about having a kid, on his/her own or adopted. If yes a little toddler will appear in the mansion in act three and will get attention from visiting friends like the dog gets. If Orana is hired the kid will be placed next to her and Orana would have several dialogues when she reports about the kids progress, otherwise Bhodan does this. Kids sex should be random and named after a dead sibling or parent of Hawke.

[Knight of Dane]

Ah, yet another thread like this, now i can say it again!

Dragon Age x Harvest Moon!

Modifié par Knight of Dane, 06 juin 2011 - 10:19 .

[WhiteKnyght]

Mickespel wrote...

Allow the player to at some point make a choice about having a kid, on his/her own or adopted. If yes a little toddler will appear in the mansion in act three and will get attention from visiting friends like the dog gets. If Orana is hired the kid will be placed next to her and Orana would have several dialogues when she reports about the kids progress, otherwise Bhodan does this. Kids sex should be random and named after a dead sibling or parent of Hawke.

I like that option.

[Huntress]

Pass, what about more character interaction with the Li/adventures/ political intrigue and the likes?
Am all for it, if it make sense, if it fits what the warden and hawke are trying to do, if we are not left in middle air by silly ends, IF..... I know, I know! am probably asking too much.

[Teddie Sage]

In my mind, my rogue Hawke left Kirkwall with Anders and they adopted an orphan baby while running away during wartime. A new kind of thing to keep Anders "sane" a little. xD

[Melca36]

Teddie Sage wrote...

In my mind, my rogue Hawke left Kirkwall with Anders and they adopted an orphan baby while running away during wartime. A new kind of thing to keep Anders "sane" a little. xD

I can see them doing that.

As long as the kid does NOT have that deep voice some of them have.

[Teddie Sage]

Melca36 wrote...

Teddie Sage wrote...

In my mind, my rogue Hawke left Kirkwall with Anders and they adopted an orphan baby while running away during wartime. A new kind of thing to keep Anders "sane" a little. xD

I can see them doing that.

As long as the kid does NOT have that deep voice some of them have.

Eww, no way he's going to be possesed! XD I'd also make sure to find a way to separate Justice from Anders. But that's another story. XD

[Sajuro]

Maria Caliban wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

How about Hawke as a parent?

 but I'd be afraid of Act III suddenly having a 'save your child or the burning alienage!' moment or a 'blood mages haz kidnapped your baby!' quest.
 

You talk as though Bioware would only put one of those quests in the game, you would also have to worry about your baby being a mage and getting murdered by templars because it is a wee apostate.

[Abispa]

I suppose having a child in a game MAY SOMEDAY be an enjoyable part of the game itself, but I truly can't imagine how. Fable has handled that about as well as it could be handled and it's still damned annoying. Maybe a cinematic epilogue featuring Hawke and co-parent, either pregnant or with a child, once Hawke's final mission is done before the release of DA3,

[Gunso91]

I suppose an ending of Hawke's (as a possiblity) could be to have children but Idk if taking care of a child in the story would appeal to too many who play DA That's not to say Hawke couldn't be emotionally attached to a niece or a nephew like human noble from DA:O or even just some brat, if BW wanted to invoke those particular feelings from players. Protecting a child or the death of a child is probably going to be emotional for most.

[sonoko]

Kids will either make the game a hardcore child-raising simulator (and I wanna play RPG, thanks), or it will be a crappy and laughable realization (like baby as an inventory item, etc).

Being a parent is a much more complex and important task then having a couple of dialogs and doing a couple of quests. So either kids should be the the focus of the narrative or they become the main source of game's idiocy.

So no kids, please! Let them stay in real life.

[BlueMew]

Fiddles_stix wrote...

My Hawke can't seem to go anywhere or do anything without breaking whatever delicate items are in the room. Seriously the insurance salesman that signs up my Hawke is going to spend a lot of time crying;

I doubt Hawke would be the best parenting example and is it really necessary to have the "picture perfect ending"? It might be nice but I prefer a bit of ambiguity so I can create my own ending.

100% agree.

And I wouldn't call it a picture perfect ending if you automatically get stuck with some brat. More like... damn, now I have lost my lunch. Or 'crap, now I will have to learn modding.'