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What are the physical differences between Harbinger and Sovereign?


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ChristianSoldier

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And who is more powerful?

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DoNotIngest

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Harbinger has four eyes, and he can ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL.


I don't think we should find out who's more powerful. The galaxy would need a cigarette.

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Oblivious

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One's dead and the other's not. Now stop spamming these forums with useless threads

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ChristianSoldier

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I said physical differences. And who is more powerful?

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Jack_cerberus

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NO WAY DUDE! Hardbringuer has toons of more power... Sovereign its problably the wosrt of all reapers... something like a scout wille Hardbringuer is probrably the president of Reaperland!

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it is also said that each reaper is unique because they are composed of different races. I find that very interesting.... Is harbinger composed of collectors? and what bout soverign?

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ChristianSoldier wrote...

it is also said that each reaper is unique because they are composed of different races. I find that very interesting.... Is harbinger composed of collectors? and what bout soverign?


Not enough data. Also, from what I know, each reaper is composed of one race. Not multiple races in one reaper. Just to clarify.

Modifié par kaiki01, 06 juin 2011 - 12:56 .


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Hard to tell, harbinger has not been shown in battle.

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KotorEffect3

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I actualy like this thread, it is hard to say we have seen sovereign in battle but not harbinger, I am guessing sovereign would be the older of the two as I have a feeling harbinger was created a few cycles later and sovereign might be as old as the first cycle. I also think that even though EDI speculated that the protheans were not turned into a reaper that harbinger may actualy be the prothean reaper and after he was made the leftovers were turned into collectors, I think that may explain why he is able to control and possess the collectors so easily.

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ChristianSoldier wrote...

it is also said that each reaper is unique because they are composed of different races. I find that very interesting.... Is harbinger composed of collectors? and what bout soverign?


Sovereign looks Rachni to me.

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Paul Sedgmore

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Shinobu wrote...

ChristianSoldier wrote...

it is also said that each reaper is unique because they are composed of different races. I find that very interesting.... Is harbinger composed of collectors? and what bout soverign?


Sovereign looks Rachni to me.

Except the Rachni are a new species and not around for any previous cycle so Sovereign can't be a Rachni Reaper.

As for power I would guess Harbinger is the more powerfull one as Sovereign was the "Vanguard" who was left to monitor the races of the galaxy and Harbinger can assume control of his agents from great distances. But we won't know for sure until a propper confrontation with Harbinger happens.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

I actualy like this thread, it is hard to say we have seen sovereign in battle but not harbinger, I am guessing sovereign would be the older of the two as I have a feeling harbinger was created a few cycles later and sovereign might be as old as the first cycle. I also think that even though EDI speculated that the protheans were not turned into a reaper that harbinger may actualy be the prothean reaper and after he was made the leftovers were turned into collectors, I think that may explain why he is able to control and possess the collectors so easily.

This is also what I think.

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

I actualy like this thread, it is hard to say we have seen sovereign in battle but not harbinger, I am guessing sovereign would be the older of the two as I have a feeling harbinger was created a few cycles later and sovereign might be as old as the first cycle. I also think that even though EDI speculated that the protheans were not turned into a reaper that harbinger may actualy be the prothean reaper and after he was made the leftovers were turned into collectors, I think that may explain why he is able to control and possess the collectors so easily.


The collectors had cybernetic modifications.

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Paul Sedgmore wrote...

Shinobu wrote...

ChristianSoldier wrote...

it is also said that each reaper is unique because they are composed of different races. I find that very interesting.... Is harbinger composed of collectors? and what bout soverign?


Sovereign looks Rachni to me.

Except the Rachni are a new species and not around for any previous cycle so Sovereign can't be a Rachni Reaper.


You're right. My bad.

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annihilator27 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

I actualy like this thread, it is hard to say we have seen sovereign in battle but not harbinger, I am guessing sovereign would be the older of the two as I have a feeling harbinger was created a few cycles later and sovereign might be as old as the first cycle. I also think that even though EDI speculated that the protheans were not turned into a reaper that harbinger may actualy be the prothean reaper and after he was made the leftovers were turned into collectors, I think that may explain why he is able to control and possess the collectors so easily.


The collectors had cybernetic modifications.



Look at Harbinger and then look at the collectors, harbinger even looks like a collector

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Annihilator27

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

annihilator27 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

I actualy like this thread, it is hard to say we have seen sovereign in battle but not harbinger, I am guessing sovereign would be the older of the two as I have a feeling harbinger was created a few cycles later and sovereign might be as old as the first cycle. I also think that even though EDI speculated that the protheans were not turned into a reaper that harbinger may actualy be the prothean reaper and after he was made the leftovers were turned into collectors, I think that may explain why he is able to control and possess the collectors so easily.


The collectors had cybernetic modifications.



Look at Harbinger and then look at the collectors, harbinger even looks like a collector


The Reapers look like cephalopods.
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He doesnt look much like a collector.Are you talking about the eyes or crest?

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EMailakaSrFox

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Rollipolli reapers would be heatwave.

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KotorEffect3

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mainly the eyes, there is also a sideshot of him it looks collectorish,

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I know I should know this but I was under the impression Harbinger was a tiny insect like Collector general. Sovereign looks to be a huge *** talking starship. Just how big is Harbinger?

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Harbinger can smile.

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Modifié par Mesina2, 06 juin 2011 - 07:54 .


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Well according to one of the devs Harbinger is one of the bigger Reaper ships...as for Sovereign...well he was just a scout for the Reapers, and I'm not sure what his size is in comparison to the other Reapers. I think Harbinger is bigger though.

I'm really hoping Harbinger isn't the strongest and leader Reaper though, I like unified villains but for me the Reapers should be MOSTLY equal to each other. They are meant to be "independent nations" sort of.

EDIT: I don't know what sort of species Harbinger is made from, he has the collector looking eye/light thingos though. Maybe he was made from the Protheans....but I don't think so because the Protheans did not have the right genetic material to be turned into Reapers.

Modifié par SkittlesKat96, 06 juin 2011 - 07:34 .


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SkittlesKat96 wrote...

Well according to one of the devs Harbinger is one of the bigger Reaper ships...as for Sovereign...well he was just a scout for the Reapers, and I'm not sure what his size is in comparison to the other Reapers. I think Harbinger is bigger though.

I'm really hoping Harbinger isn't the strongest and leader Reaper though, I like unified villains but for me the Reapers should be MOSTLY equal to each other. They are meant to be "independent nations" sort of.

EDIT: I don't know what sort of species Harbinger is made from, he has the collector looking eye/light thingos though. Maybe he was made from the Protheans....but I don't think so because the Protheans did not have the right genetic material to be turned into Reapers.


Well EDI speculated that the prothean reaper failed but it isn't a confirmed fact yet unless bioware says so.  ,As far as size goes I think both Sovereign and Harbinger are two of the bigger  size of reapers.  I am guessing they are roughly the same size

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Sovereign has an odd number off tentacles. Harbinger is even.

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KotorEffect3

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I have a feeling bioware is keeping a lid on th reapers until release, so far the screenshots have been reaperless

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Harbinger got knocked around a few times as a baby Reaper.

By Sovereign, no less.

Modifié par JeffZero, 06 juin 2011 - 09:37 .