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Slight differences in LotSB between ManShep and FemShep?


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So after playthrough 4 different playthroughs in ME2 (2 of which are ManShep, the other FemShep) I noticed a little something in LotSB that varied between the 2. All my characters initially romanced Liara, and all of them accepted to continue at that time. (I'm a Liara fanatic, by the way. So I guess I noticed this easier.)

- Liara cries for ManShep, you actually hear her sobbing, after defeating the Shadow Broker.
- Liara still cries, but no sob or as much sentimental value for FemShep, after defeating the Shadow Broker.
As seen here:

- The paragon kiss looks normal for ManShep
- The paragon kiss looks awkward at first for FemShep. (Liara's arm goes through her arm.)
As seen in the same link as above.

- When ManShep first leaves and says "Don't be a stranger this time", Liara actually turns around and says she misses him when he walks away.
- When FemShep first leaves, Liara just stayed looking at her computer, saying nothing.

- On the normandy, Liara smiles a lot more with ManShep.
- On the normandy, Liara doesn't smile as often or at all with FemShep. (Especially after you tell her you want her to have something special to come back to, while she does with ManShep.)

...So, my question is, did they purposely make the FemShep romance less sentimental than the ManShep one? I mean I can understand the graphical issues, but the sobbing and the smiling?

Modifié par Kookoocrackpot, 06 juin 2011 - 11:29 .


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Sheploo : FemShep
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Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 06 juin 2011 - 10:57 .


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She's a racist for human females.

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You asari are all sexist?

Didn't see the movies you posted, but is there a chance this is a Paragon/Renegade thing?

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Bioware's comments on this.

Modifié par Nyoka, 06 juin 2011 - 11:20 .


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Nyoka wrote...

Bioware's comments on this.


Oh, thank you. I don't understand how the audio for the sobbing didn't mix with FemShep though, or how the turning around when ManShep left and not for FemShep...or how the smiling fit into that...
Oh well. :?

Modifié par Kookoocrackpot, 06 juin 2011 - 11:27 .


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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

You asari are all sexist?

Didn't see the movies you posted, but is there a chance this is a Paragon/Renegade thing?


Nope, got 1 paragon/1 renegade Sheploo, and 1 paragon/1 renegade FemShep and they both do the same thing.

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Yeah, well, that's the response this thing got. Bioware has proven they listen and pay attention, so hopefully it won't happen in future developments.

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 Clearly, Liara needs d!ck.

:whistle:

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Kookoocrackpot wrote...

So after playthrough 4 different playthroughs in ME2 (2 of which are ManShep, the other FemShep) I noticed a little something in LotSB that varied between the 2. All my characters initially romanced Liara, and all of them accepted to continue at that time. (I'm a Liara fanatic, by the way. So I guess I noticed this easier.)

- Liara cries for ManShep, you actually hear her sobbing, after defeating the Shadow Broker.
- Liara still cries, but no sob or as much sentimental value for FemShep, after defeating the Shadow Broker.
As seen here:

- The paragon kiss looks normal for ManShep
- The paragon kiss looks awkward at first for FemShep. (Liara's arm goes through her arm.)
As seen in the same link as above.

- When ManShep first leaves and says "Don't be a stranger this time", Liara actually turns around and says she misses him when he walks away.
- When FemShep first leaves, Liara just stayed looking at her computer, saying nothing.

- On the normandy, Liara smiles a lot more with ManShep.
- On the normandy, Liara doesn't smile as often or at all with FemShep. (Especially after you tell her you want her to have something special to come back to, while she does with ManShep.)

...So, my question is, did they purposely make the FemShep romance less sentimental than the ManShep one? I mean I can understand the graphical issues, but the sobbing and the smiling?


Shepard and Liara are canon lovers.

Liara and some weak little lesbian girl playing army are not canon lovers. Ergo, Liara does not care about her and is merely fullfilling her contract to do scenes with both canon and female Shepard. It makes perfect sense.

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I was actually thinking about that yesterday, though I thought it was because PC version was different to 360/PS3...But then I got told it was a difference between manshep and femshep, and then I was like..."FFFUUUUUUU"...I just do hope in the future they don't make that same silly mistake again, and by the looks of things, it won't. :)

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Darkhour wrote...

Kookoocrackpot wrote...

So after playthrough 4 different playthroughs in ME2 (2 of which are ManShep, the other FemShep) I noticed a little something in LotSB that varied between the 2. All my characters initially romanced Liara, and all of them accepted to continue at that time. (I'm a Liara fanatic, by the way. So I guess I noticed this easier.)

- Liara cries for ManShep, you actually hear her sobbing, after defeating the Shadow Broker.
- Liara still cries, but no sob or as much sentimental value for FemShep, after defeating the Shadow Broker.
As seen here:

- The paragon kiss looks normal for ManShep
- The paragon kiss looks awkward at first for FemShep. (Liara's arm goes through her arm.)
As seen in the same link as above.

- When ManShep first leaves and says "Don't be a stranger this time", Liara actually turns around and says she misses him when he walks away.
- When FemShep first leaves, Liara just stayed looking at her computer, saying nothing.

- On the normandy, Liara smiles a lot more with ManShep.
- On the normandy, Liara doesn't smile as often or at all with FemShep. (Especially after you tell her you want her to have something special to come back to, while she does with ManShep.)

...So, my question is, did they purposely make the FemShep romance less sentimental than the ManShep one? I mean I can understand the graphical issues, but the sobbing and the smiling?


Shepard and Liara are canon lovers.

Liara and some weak little lesbian girl playing army are not canon lovers. Ergo, Liara does not care about her and is merely fullfilling her contract to do scenes with both canon and female Shepard. It makes perfect sense.


Um no, there is no thing as a "canon relationship". If there was, it would probably be Liara, given the obvious reasons, but it would be with both sexes. You're obviously being very sexist.

Modifié par SilentNukee, 06 juin 2011 - 12:15 .


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Kookoocrackpot wrote...

So after playthrough 4 different playthroughs in ME2 (2 of which are ManShep, the other FemShep) I noticed a little something in LotSB that varied between the 2. All my characters initially romanced Liara, and all of them accepted to continue at that time. (I'm a Liara fanatic, by the way. So I guess I noticed this easier.)

- Liara cries for ManShep, you actually hear her sobbing, after defeating the Shadow Broker.
- Liara still cries, but no sob or as much sentimental value for FemShep, after defeating the Shadow Broker.
As seen here:

- The paragon kiss looks normal for ManShep
- The paragon kiss looks awkward at first for FemShep. (Liara's arm goes through her arm.)
As seen in the same link as above.

- When ManShep first leaves and says "Don't be a stranger this time", Liara actually turns around and says she misses him when he walks away.
- When FemShep first leaves, Liara just stayed looking at her computer, saying nothing.

- On the normandy, Liara smiles a lot more with ManShep.
- On the normandy, Liara doesn't smile as often or at all with FemShep. (Especially after you tell her you want her to have something special to come back to, while she does with ManShep.)

...So, my question is, did they purposely make the FemShep romance less sentimental than the ManShep one? I mean I can understand the graphical issues, but the sobbing and the smiling?


This was actually brought up right after LotSB, and I mean all of your concerns about FemShep in it. There was a good long thread with people asking for answers and one of the devs (don't remember who off-hand) responded in the thread to all the concerns. I can't tell you the name of it, but you should try searching the forum for it as it should give an answer to most of your questions/concerns.

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SilentNukee wrote...

Darkhour wrote...

Shepard and Liara are canon lovers.

Liara and some weak little lesbian girl playing army are not canon lovers. Ergo, Liara does not care about her and is merely fullfilling her contract to do scenes with both canon and female Shepard. It makes perfect sense.


Um no, there is no thing as a "canon relationship". If there was, it would probably be Liara, given the obvious reasons, but it would be with both sexes. You're obviously being very sexist.


Looks more to me like he's being sarcastic.  People need to stop throwing around labels: troll, sexist, etc. before actually knowing what's what.

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It's true, as a big Liara fan I've noticed this as well. As to why there are these differences, I have no idea. You might try posing this question in the Liara fan thread, might get a proper answer that way.

Edit: Nvm the above, apparently the right answer was given already. :whistle:

Modifié par Robhuzz, 06 juin 2011 - 12:53 .


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Slayer299 wrote...

Kookoocrackpot wrote...

So after playthrough 4 different playthroughs in ME2 (2 of which are ManShep, the other FemShep) I noticed a little something in LotSB that varied between the 2. All my characters initially romanced Liara, and all of them accepted to continue at that time. (I'm a Liara fanatic, by the way. So I guess I noticed this easier.)

- Liara cries for ManShep, you actually hear her sobbing, after defeating the Shadow Broker.
- Liara still cries, but no sob or as much sentimental value for FemShep, after defeating the Shadow Broker.
As seen here:

- The paragon kiss looks normal for ManShep
- The paragon kiss looks awkward at first for FemShep. (Liara's arm goes through her arm.)
As seen in the same link as above.

- When ManShep first leaves and says "Don't be a stranger this time", Liara actually turns around and says she misses him when he walks away.
- When FemShep first leaves, Liara just stayed looking at her computer, saying nothing.

- On the normandy, Liara smiles a lot more with ManShep.
- On the normandy, Liara doesn't smile as often or at all with FemShep. (Especially after you tell her you want her to have something special to come back to, while she does with ManShep.)

...So, my question is, did they purposely make the FemShep romance less sentimental than the ManShep one? I mean I can understand the graphical issues, but the sobbing and the smiling?


This was actually brought up right after LotSB, and I mean all of your concerns about FemShep in it. There was a good long thread with people asking for answers and one of the devs (don't remember who off-hand) responded in the thread to all the concerns. I can't tell you the name of it, but you should try searching the forum for it as it should give an answer to most of your questions/concerns.


Weren't they like "oh, it's just an audio glitch lol" about it?

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SilentNukee wrote...

Um no, there is no thing as a "canon relationship". If there was, it would probably be Liara, given the obvious reasons, but it would be with both sexes. You're obviously being very sexist.


Shepard is a guy. Deal with it.

Being realist does not make me sexist. I don't care about political correctness. There is a reason women don't fight on the front line and it's not just a matter of physical strength. There are no female special forces soldiers . They do not exist. Femshep is an equal opportunity fantasy.


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The Canon DICTATES!!!

http://social.biowar...8/index/7546824

Modifié par Darkhour, 06 juin 2011 - 01:01 .


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Darkhour wrote...

Shepard and Liara are canon lovers.

What are you talking about? Everybody knows Sheploo's true love is Kaidan. Their mutual repressed feelings will become apparent in a wild, flaming manner in ME3 :wizard:

...To be honest though, I'm not really sure whether it's Kaidan or Joker.

Modifié par Nyoka, 06 juin 2011 - 01:11 .


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Nyoka wrote...

Darkhour wrote...

Shepard and Liara are canon lovers.

What are you talking about? Everybody knows Sheploo's true love is Kaidan. Their mutual repressed feelings will become apparent in a wild, explosive manner in ME3 :wizard:


I don't think Kaidan is gay. If Shepard was gay, which he isn't, Kaiden would fall into the same category as Ashley: Dispensable. Ergo, he canot be cannon. He is not even a canon broham. Garrus takes that prize.

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Oh, I'm sure you don't think he is :D

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Darkhour wrote...
Garrus takes that prize.


Garrus is easily dispensible. 

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SilentNukee wrote...

Darkhour wrote...

Kookoocrackpot wrote...

So after playthrough 4 different playthroughs in ME2 (2 of which are ManShep, the other FemShep) I noticed a little something in LotSB that varied between the 2. All my characters initially romanced Liara, and all of them accepted to continue at that time. (I'm a Liara fanatic, by the way. So I guess I noticed this easier.)

- Liara cries for ManShep, you actually hear her sobbing, after defeating the Shadow Broker.
- Liara still cries, but no sob or as much sentimental value for FemShep, after defeating the Shadow Broker.
As seen here:

- The paragon kiss looks normal for ManShep
- The paragon kiss looks awkward at first for FemShep. (Liara's arm goes through her arm.)
As seen in the same link as above.

- When ManShep first leaves and says "Don't be a stranger this time", Liara actually turns around and says she misses him when he walks away.
- When FemShep first leaves, Liara just stayed looking at her computer, saying nothing.

- On the normandy, Liara smiles a lot more with ManShep.
- On the normandy, Liara doesn't smile as often or at all with FemShep. (Especially after you tell her you want her to have something special to come back to, while she does with ManShep.)

...So, my question is, did they purposely make the FemShep romance less sentimental than the ManShep one? I mean I can understand the graphical issues, but the sobbing and the smiling?


Shepard and Liara are canon lovers.

Liara and some weak little lesbian girl playing army are not canon lovers. Ergo, Liara does not care about her and is merely fullfilling her contract to do scenes with both canon and female Shepard. It makes perfect sense.


Um no, there is no thing as a "canon relationship". If there was, it would probably be Liara, given the obvious reasons, but it would be with both sexes. You're obviously being very sexist.


I don't even want to think about there being a possible canon relationship. NOT FAIR!

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There's another glitch later on in the cabin scene. femshep gets to turn Liara into melted blue butter. For manShep, she has a silly smile on her face.

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Nyoka wrote...

Oh, I'm sure you don't think he is :D


Not relevent considering Shepard is canonically heterosexual. Kaidan can be as fabulous as he wants. He certainly has the hair for it. His ME3 picks reminds of that guy on America's Next Top Model. The one with the silver hair.

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Darkhour wrote...

Nyoka wrote...

Oh, I'm sure you don't think he is :D


Not relevent considering Shepard is canonically heterosexual. Kaidan can be as fabulous as he wants. He certainly has the hair for it. His ME3 picks reminds of that guy on America's Next Top Model. The one with the silver hair.


Obviously  not, since you know.......there's no canon. And homosexual relationships will be available in ME3.

Modifié par Montezuma IV, 06 juin 2011 - 01:35 .