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[Maugrim]

Darkhour wrote...

Shepard and Liara are canon lovers.

Liara and some weak little lesbian girl playing army are not canon lovers. Ergo, Liara does not care about her and is merely fullfilling her contract to do scenes with both canon and female Shepard. It makes perfect sense.

Ali Hillis LOVES making out with Jennifer Hale.

[Darkhour]

JamieCOTC wrote...

There's another glitch later on in the cabin scene. femshep gets to turn Liara into melted blue butter. For manShep, she has a silly smile on her face.

The cabin scenes are identical. Both grab her butt and she does the black eyes thing.

[Darkhour]

Montezuma IV wrote...

Darkhour wrote...

Nyoka wrote...

Oh, I'm sure you don't think he is

Not relevent considering Shepard is canonically heterosexual. Kaidan can be as fabulous as he wants. He certainly has the hair for it. His ME3 picks reminds of that guy on America's Next Top Model. The one with the silver hair.

Obviously  not, since you know.......there's no canon. And homosexual relationships will be available in ME3.

1. There is a canon. Deal with it.

2.  Canon Shepard is heterosexual. Just like a Liara romance is canon. Sure, you can romance Ashley, Miranda, Tali or Jack. If Kasumi's comments are any indication, you and Kelly are an item if you had dinner with her. But all those no-Liara paths are non-canon. I prefer Tali romance, but I'm not so self absorbed that I'll ignore anything that contradicts my likes. You don't like the fact that Liara is the canon LI. Fine. But don't kid yourself into thinking that there is no canon.

And I wouldn't jump to conclusions and assume the ME team is going to pull an Anders with Kaidan. I think they have a little more repect for their gameworld than the DA team has for theirs.  Gay romances doesn't mean all previous heterosexual characters magically become gay. I think all homosexuals are newcomers and/or non-party NPCs.

Modifié par Darkhour, 06 juin 2011 - 01:48 .

[jwalker]

Darkhour wrote...

Nyoka wrote...

Oh, I'm sure you don't think he is

Not relevent considering Shepard is canonically heterosexual. Kaidan can be as fabulous as he wants. He certainly has the hair for it. His ME3 picks reminds of that guy on America's Next Top Model. The one with the silver hair.

There's no canon. Deal with it

Modifié par jwalker, 06 juin 2011 - 01:49 .

[Darkhour]

Nyoka wrote...

Darkhour wrote...

Shepard is canonically heterosexual.

Do you know what Sheploo really is?

He is...

...in love.

 Awwwwww, I'm so glad they found each othe... I mean, that's NOT Canon!!!! GROSS!!!! 

[JamieCOTC]

Darkhour wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

There's another glitch later on in the cabin scene. femshep gets to turn Liara into melted blue butter. For manShep, she has a silly smile on her face.

The cabin scenes are identical. Both grab her butt and she does the black eyes thing.

Nope.  Watch Liara's reaction at the line, "I'm open to suggestions." 

ManShep (6:47)

femShep (6:51)

[Darkhour]

jwalker wrote...

Darkhour wrote...

Nyoka wrote...

Oh, I'm sure you don't think he is

Not relevent considering Shepard is canonically heterosexual. Kaidan can be as fabulous as he wants. He certainly has the hair for it. His ME3 picks reminds of that guy on America's Next Top Model. The one with the silver hair.

There's no canon. Deal with it

Just like the Qunari weren't retconned and DA2 wasn't rushed. Sorry, but Mr Priestley's word doesn't carry much weight 'round these parts. Besides, I AM THE LAW. As the only impartial voice, what I say goes. Deal with it.

[jlb524]

If canon Shepard's canon LI is Liara (who's not a woman), then that means canon Shepard really isn't heterosexual.

[Shadow_Soul]

@Nyoka
I approve +100

@Darkhour
Dude, you know, THERE IS NO CANON for this. I mean, BioWare provided options, so no, there is no canon. Unless you count the default things with ME2 if you don't use Genesis or import an ME1 save....
Also, there are kickass women marines, I know many. Hell, I am quite a kickass woman myself (I have stories, yeah, I do) so FemShep is realistic, she is. Women are just as good as men are, if not better at points. We can kick ass and look good doing it.

*ahem* As for the topic: I noticed this as well, but I write fanfiction, so I can make Liara smile a ton with FemShep no problem, she goes all melty for FemShep XD It's awesome....

[Wygrath]

You guys take this "romance" crap too seriously. I hope Bioware's next major series doesn't have any romance option at all. Maybe it'll cut down on the weird, creepy, and some times hostile threads.

[Darkhour]

JamieCOTC wrote...

Darkhour wrote...

JamieCOTC wrote...

There's another glitch later on in the cabin scene. femshep gets to turn Liara into melted blue butter. For manShep, she has a silly smile on her face.

The cabin scenes are identical. Both grab her butt and she does the black eyes thing.

Nope.  Watch Liara's reaction at the line, "I'm open to suggestions." 

ManShep (6:47)

femShep (6:51)

You got the times wrong.

Commander Shepard (10:23)

Equal Oppurtunity Fantasy Shepard (6:45)

I played them simultaneously side by side and did not see any difference.

Did notice that after they hug goodbye Liara smiles for Shepard before and as she turns away, but does not small for that lady.

Modifié par Darkhour, 06 juin 2011 - 02:03 .

[Shadow_Soul]

@Darkhour
Stop being sexist. Woman can be kickass marines, deal with it. Like I said before, women are just as good as men, if not better.
And you do relize FemShep was named FAN FAVORITE, right? She also has thhe biggest thread on BSN, so yeah....FemShep is awesome, and she is very loved, and very realistic. Deal with it, okay?

[Kronner]

Wygrath wrote...

You guys take this "romance" crap too seriously. I hope Bioware's next major series doesn't have any romance option at all. Maybe it'll cut down on the weird, creepy, and some times hostile threads.

Same here.

[Khayness]

Wygrath wrote...

You guys take this "romance" crap too seriously. I hope Bioware's next major series doesn't have any romance option at all. Maybe it'll cut down on the weird, creepy, and some times hostile threads.

They don't have the balls.

I wish they'd prove me wrong. Awakening was excellent in that regard.

Shadow_Soul wrote...

And you do relize FemShep was named FAN FAVORITE, right? She also has thhe biggest thread on BSN, so yeah....

Because the maleShep players don't need to create support threads, they just play the game.

According to the online feedback, the femShep players are only the vocal minority.

But you shouldn't care, just enjoy your game dammit.

Modifié par Khayness, 06 juin 2011 - 02:18 .

[TUHD]

Darkhour, instead of being sexist (notice: I am male myself, and straight), argue a bit better. There's no 'cannon' relationship. Also, see that nifty 'block' option on a userpage? Personally I am going to click it the moment you keep on insisting on being an sexist and a flaming troll - plus that nifty 'Report this user' button.

@OP: As someone referenced, it are just bugs and glitches. Just let's hope BW can solve such issues in ME3.

@Shadow_Soul: we don't need feminists here either. Stay way from the male vs. female debate, thank you!

@others (also from other topics): Bioware simply needs an Shephard to portray. Since the most ME-players seem to be male, it is logical BW uses an male Shep since it is easier for the most players to identify with Shephard then.
Just saying.

Modifié par TUHD, 06 juin 2011 - 02:07 .

[Darkhour]

Shadow_Soul wrote...

@Nyoka
I approve +100

@Darkhour
Dude, you know, THERE IS NO CANON for this. I mean, BioWare provided options, so no, there is no canon. Unless you count the default things with ME2 if you don't use Genesis or import an ME1 save....
Also, there are kickass women marines, I know many. Hell, I am quite a kickass woman myself (I have stories, yeah, I do) so FemShep is realistic, she is. Women are just as good as men are, if not better at points. We can kick ass and look good doing it.

*ahem* As for the topic: I noticed this as well, but I write fanfiction, so I can make Liara smile a ton with FemShep no problem, she goes all melty for FemShep XD It's awesome....

I've seen plenty of female marines. too So what? None of those kick ass women marines are frontline fighters There are 0 female special forces soldiers. They aren't even allowed to apply.

Politically correct and factually correct are two different things. No matter how much you don't like the way nature made us, the facts remain regardless.

[Pups_of_war_76]

Nyoka wrote...

Darkhour wrote...

Shepard and Liara are canon lovers.

What are you talking about? Everybody knows Sheploo's true love is Kaidan. Their mutual repressed feelings will become apparent in a wild, flaming manner in ME3

...To be honest though, I'm not really sure whether it's Kaidan or Joker.

I think there's more genuine sexual tension between MaleShep and Kaidan.

MaleShep/Joker pairing just doesn't seem very natural, whereas MaleShep/Kaidan does, imo. 

[Pups_of_war_76]

Darkhour wrote...

Shadow_Soul wrote...

@Nyoka
I approve +100

@Darkhour
Dude, you know, THERE IS NO CANON for this. I mean, BioWare provided options, so no, there is no canon. Unless you count the default things with ME2 if you don't use Genesis or import an ME1 save....
Also, there are kickass women marines, I know many. Hell, I am quite a kickass woman myself (I have stories, yeah, I do) so FemShep is realistic, she is. Women are just as good as men are, if not better at points. We can kick ass and look good doing it.

*ahem* As for the topic: I noticed this as well, but I write fanfiction, so I can make Liara smile a ton with FemShep no problem, she goes all melty for FemShep XD It's awesome....

I've seen plenty of female marines. too So what? None of those kick ass women marines are frontline fighters There are 0 female special forces soldiers. They aren't even allowed to apply.

Politically correct and factually correct are two different things. No matter how much you don't like the way nature made us, the facts remain regardless.

Then it's a good thing this game series takes place IN THE FUTURE when all of these silly institutionalized gender roles have presumably been dispensed with. 

[Mystranna Kelteel]

TUHD wrote...
@Shadow_Soul: we don't need feminists here either. Stay way from the male vs. female debate, thank you!

I'm going to assume you meant "We don't need gender debates here" instead of "we don't need feminists here".

Because the latter is just rude and ignorant.

[Darkhour]

Shadow_Soul wrote...

@Darkhour
Stop being sexist. Woman can be kickass marines, deal with it. Like I said before, women are just as good as men, if not better.

The hypocrisy is painful to read. Men generally have greater upper body strength. Therefore men are superior.

Now, do you want to go into intelligence as well?

And you do relize FemShep was named FAN FAVORITE, right? She also has thhe biggest thread on BSN, so yeah....FemShep is awesome, and she is very loved, and very realistic. Deal with it, okay?

You do know that 4 out of 5 players play male. Loud minorities are always heard. Why do you think ME3 has gay romances? If the fantasy female shepard is such a favorite why do only 20% of people play her? Facts are facts. Deal with it.

[Sphynx118]

Darkhour wrote...

Kookoocrackpot wrote...

So after playthrough 4 different playthroughs in ME2 (2 of which are ManShep, the other FemShep) I noticed a little something in LotSB that varied between the 2. All my characters initially romanced Liara, and all of them accepted to continue at that time. (I'm a Liara fanatic, by the way. So I guess I noticed this easier.)

- Liara cries for ManShep, you actually hear her sobbing, after defeating the Shadow Broker.
- Liara still cries, but no sob or as much sentimental value for FemShep, after defeating the Shadow Broker.
As seen here:

- The paragon kiss looks normal for ManShep
- The paragon kiss looks awkward at first for FemShep. (Liara's arm goes through her arm.)
As seen in the same link as above.

- When ManShep first leaves and says "Don't be a stranger this time", Liara actually turns around and says she misses him when he walks away.
- When FemShep first leaves, Liara just stayed looking at her computer, saying nothing.

- On the normandy, Liara smiles a lot more with ManShep.
- On the normandy, Liara doesn't smile as often or at all with FemShep. (Especially after you tell her you want her to have something special to come back to, while she does with ManShep.)

...So, my question is, did they purposely make the FemShep romance less sentimental than the ManShep one? I mean I can understand the graphical issues, but the sobbing and the smiling?

Shepard and Liara are canon lovers.

Liara and some weak little lesbian girl playing army are not canon lovers. Ergo, Liara does not care about her and is merely fullfilling her contract to do scenes with both canon and female Shepard. It makes perfect sense.

QFT. This is the most logical conclusion