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[Inspectre]

Darkhour wrote...
And you were there to see it first hand, huh?

How do you know WWII wasn't just some grand government conspiracy thing?  Or that Rome really ever existed?

Gosh darn, we have to trust people to keep track of these things?

Darkhour wrote...
And she did this single-handedly like some anime samurai too, no doubt.

... you've never read about her, then.

Modifié par Dragon XIX, 08 juin 2011 - 06:08 .

[sissysouthpaw]

Wow, on topic much?

[Veloric Wu]

If you play FemShep Renegade in LotSB, you can tell the difference is very huge from ManShep.

Liara and FemShep's relationship appear to be more like sisterhood(which I appreciate). In my opinion this version of LotSB is the best. Renegade really gets the reward.


It doesn't have to be romantic love to be a good story. That's just personal taste.


p.s. I've seen a few posts claiming that men>>women........we're talking about diffrences in LotSB, not differences of strength considering gender......I'd very much likely ask(or just wait for) the manager to shut you sexists down-_-

Modifié par FeriktheCerberus, 08 juin 2011 - 07:33 .

[Twilight_Princess]

These kinds of threads always attract the mansplainers

Now to get back on topic, we were told there will be more effort on bioware's part to pay more attention next time. Before LotSB there was weird running , floating , shepard not touching objects etc. So really it should have been an apparent issue THEN, but hey, at least the feedback from LotSB was the nice big wake up call for them.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

These kinds of threads always attract the mansplainers

[MsKlaussen]

Darkhour wrote...

Rawke wrote...

Uhm, yes, there are women fighting on the frontline in our armed forces. That was kind of my whole point. I'm from Germany. There are women depolyed in Afghanistan as part of combat units. In fact, I saw a documentary about the German are of responsibility just a few days ago featuring several different soldiers, including a female Dingo driver (the Dingo being an armoured car and Germany's primary light IMV used for patrol missions; very similar to the American HMMWV).

Also, who says Shepard is the best soldeir in the Alliance?

Umm, no there aren't. There are no women frontline fighters in your country's armed forces. At best, they are gate/checkpoint guards. I've served with every NATO nation and Australia and have NEVER seen or heard of a female frontline fighters.  I don't care what your media has led you to believe. There are hygiene and physiological concerns that prevent it. It isn't because of some baseless discrimination.  

In the beginning of Mass Effect you think Udina, Anderson and Hackett figured they'd just grab some undeserving 2nd rate soldier to put forth as their sole canditate for first human SPECTRE while there are better more qualified candidates out there? It is explicitely stating in their conversation that Shepard is the best they have. Well, that specific comment depends on your background but it is implied throughout the game.

70% of the Caracal Battalion is female. The Caracal Battalion is a full infantry battalion in the Israeli Defense Force currently serving on the border between Israel and Egypt doing counter insurgency and patrol work.

Women have been fighting as early as World War I when the 1st regiment of the Russian Women's Legion of Death was deployed in the Kerensky Offensive against the Germans and came back victorious with 200 POWs.

I'm not sure what your definition of front line is, but I'm thinking that driving tanks, toting machine guns, sniping, and beating the hell out of German infantrymen aren't and weren't exactly topping the Things to Do list back in the kitchens and medical tents.

[Darkhour]

Dragon XIX wrote...

Darkhour wrote...
And you were there to see it first hand, huh?

How do you know WWII wasn't just some grand government conspiracy thing?  Or that Rome really ever existed?

Gosh darn, we have to trust people to keep track of these things?

The Catholic Church's story says she lead a force. For instance, a female commander today can be in charge of a unit, but that doesn't mean she personal runs head first into the fray. and if she did that wouldn't make her a 1-woman army. What was she? 16? Give me a break.  It would not surprise me if the Church made up the more fantastic accounts for political reasons. 

[Darkhour]

MsKlaussen wrote...

70% of the Caracal Battalion is female. The Caracal Battalion is a full infantry battalion in the Israeli Defense Force currently serving on the border between Israel and Egypt doing counter insurgency and patrol work.

Women have been fighting as early as World War I when the 1st regiment of the Russian Women's Legion of Death was deployed in the Kerensky Offensive against the Germans and came back victorious with 200 POWs.

I'm not sure what your definition of front line is, but I'm thinking that driving tanks, toting machine guns, sniping, and beating the hell out of German infantrymen aren't and weren't exactly topping the Things to Do list back in the kitchens and medical tents.

The Caracal is the only unit like this. That should have set off the first flag as ALL units would be mixed if they were truly integrated. Let me explain why they are only in one particular unit. The Caracal is nothing more than a PR stunt; an appeasement to isreali feminist lobbist. It is more of a "neighborhood watch" than an infantry unit. At best I'd say it's like the U.S. border patrol. Furthermore, they only serve in peaceful areas, like the Jordanian border.

Russian Women's Legion of Death is understandable. They were desperate to the point where they are taking volunterrs off the streets. Didn't last long though. 5 months later it was decided they weren't effective enough. The second russian women force also came about in the time when the govenrment was desperate for troops. Do you agree with the practice of using child soldiers like many African groups employ because they are desperate for manpower?

I'm not a sexist. I'm a realist. Political correctness does not equal actual correctness.

Modifié par Darkhour, 08 juin 2011 - 12:51 .

[trimaecl]

Darkhour wrote...

trimaecl wrote...

Darkhour: I'm sure that SOME women could make capable durable fighters in reality. Bet your ass there's going to be women who'll easily kick your ass and can kill you in hand to hand combat

I'd literally bet my ass that I could take on any woman on this planet in a fight. Make that, any woman in history. You watch too much TV. Even the body builder women are wimps in comparison to an average sized healthy man.

I'm not talking about body builder women. I'm talking about women that know how you can break someone's limbs with 1 well placed punch or kick, break your neck before you even know what's going on and poke out your eyeballs when you're distracted for a bit. You're the one that watches too much male action hero crap on TV.

[MsKlaussen]

Darkhour wrote...

MsKlaussen wrote...

70% of the Caracal Battalion is female. The Caracal Battalion is a full infantry battalion in the Israeli Defense Force currently serving on the border between Israel and Egypt doing counter insurgency and patrol work.

Women have been fighting as early as World War I when the 1st regiment of the Russian Women's Legion of Death was deployed in the Kerensky Offensive against the Germans and came back victorious with 200 POWs.

I'm not sure what your definition of front line is, but I'm thinking that driving tanks, toting machine guns, sniping, and beating the hell out of German infantrymen aren't and weren't exactly topping the Things to Do list back in the kitchens and medical tents.

The Caracal is the only unit like this. That should have set off the first flag as ALL units would be mixed if they were truly integrated. Let me explain why they are only in one particular unit. The Caracal is nothing more than a PR stunt; an appeasement to isreali feminist lobbist. It is more of a "neighborhood watch" than an infantry unit. At best I'd say it's like the U.S. border patrol. Furthermore, they only serve in peaceful areas, like the Jordanian border.

Russian Women's Legion of Death is understandable. They were desperate to the point where they are taking volunterrs off the streets. Didn't last long though. 5 months later it was decided they weren't effective enough. The second russian women force also came about in the time when the govenrment was desperate for troops. Do you agree with the practice of using child soldiers like many African groups employ because they are desperate for manpower?

I'm not a sexist. I'm a realist. Political correctness does not equal actual correctness.

As a mother myself I can't possibly agree with that, no. It was difficult enough for me to deal with two brothers being deployed in the Navy, which is in turn, nothing like how worried I'd have been were they deployed in the Army or Marines. I don't know how my mom held up on that one, save that she's a very strong woman.

As for the other stuff, I don't know if I'd see much of a difference between ending up somewhere I 'm being shot at and being deliberately sent to somewhere I'm being shot at. I know the bullets won't care why I'm there. Whether many women are placed in front line combat units or not, women are and have been directly in the line of fire for a while now, and while the inability of men to see women hurt may and probably does create some very unique and serious problems on some level, we are not witnessing disaster after disaster directly attributable to women being there.  They've been risking their lives right next to the men and are part of the success of the military.

There are also female firefighters. I'm not saying just any woman could do these things. I am in really good shape and have been athletic all my life, but if you need yourself and your equipment dragged a mile back to a helicopter while people fire rockets at us and you thought I was going to able to do it well...

But there is a difference between this not being doable because it's truly not doable and not being doable because the gender hangups of men under fire don't allow for it to be doable. And just like in Starship Troopers, where that gender hangup was made non-existent, in the fictional environment of ME, there should also be no limitations outside lack of ability. That's all I'm trying to say.

Modifié par MsKlaussen, 08 juin 2011 - 06:31 .

[78stonewobble]

Darkhour wrote...
I've seen plenty of female marines. too So what? None of those kick ass women marines are frontline fighters There are 0 female special forces soldiers. They aren't even allowed to apply.

Politically correct and factually correct are two different things. No matter how much you don't like the way nature made us, the facts remain regardless.

If theyre not allowed to apply it kinda explains why there are no female special forces soldiers.

Personally? You cannot generalise per gender, religion, race, looks, sexuality and so forth. Every single individual is a unique combination.

There are very few constants in life: Death, taxes and that 95 percent of everyone are idiots...