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[Darkhour]

THE CANON

The Book of the Love Interest.

Chapter 1

1. The Canon dictates that Liara T’soni is the canonical romance for Commander John “<insert middle name>” Shepard.

2.  Liara T’Soni has her own recruitment mission in which John Shepard rescues the damsel in distress. 

3.  Liara T’soni’s romance will override that of Gunnery Chief Ashley Williams. 

4. When propositioned for a threesome, Liara T’soni does not shy away.  Given Shepard’s choices, Liara is favored in 2 to 1.

5.  Liara has intimate knowledge of Shepard’s very being; a connection that no other love interest will ever have.

6.  Liara can dance better than Ashley. 

7.  Liara has an extended sex scene (i.e. Liara’s is better than Ashley’s).

8.  Ashley is inconsequential. Liara is mandatory and critical to Shepard’s success.

9.  Liara is a biotic goddess (or S7).  Shepard is a god of war (or N7).  Ashley is a *chuckles* B4.  She isn’t even in the same league.  Ashley isn’t good enough for Shepard.

Chapter 2

1.  During the opening of Mass Effect 2, Liara has her own special armor which is aesthetically superior to Ashley’s pathetic phoenix armor.  Have you seen the horrible stats on that crap armor?

2.  Liara’s presense in Mass Effect 2 is far greater than Ashley’s.  Liara gives hugs AND kisses when they meet.  Ashley gives hugs and attitude.

3.  Liara’s follow-up is more than a mere email like Ashley’s, which is matched by the likes of Morlan’s add for penis enhancement.

4.  Liara does not take a dump on Shepard for wanting to protect human colonies and knows her man well enough to trust and support him.

5.  Liara risked life a limb to ensure Shepard’s returned because she could not bear to let him go.  Ashley would have probably shot Miranda in the face simply because she was with Cerberus and left Shepard to rot in the Shadow Broker’s (and therefore the Collectors) claws.

6.  Liara has her own awesome DLC.

7.  Liara’s romance spans through all 3 games in the Trilogy.

8.  Therefore, let it be known henceforth that the asari, Liara T’soni, is the official canonical love of Commander John Shepard, first human spectre, Champion of the Alliance and Hero of the Citadel.

So sayeth The Canon!!!

Modifié par Darkhour, 06 juin 2011 - 01:02 .

[Severyx]

what is this i dont even

[Robhuzz]

Is this a new disease or something? What's with all these "Bioware CLEARLY favors Liara so she's the canon romance" threads these days?

[Darkhour]

Robhuzz wrote...

Is this a new disease or something? What's with all these "Bioware CLEARLY favors Liara so she's the canon romance" threads these days?

The Canon DICTATES!!!

[Homebound]

bioware clearly favoured jack in me2. just from that, your canon is inert.

[Xeranx]

I defended you in another thread and saw you prove me wrong. Despite that I'm willing to see where this goes.

[syllogi]

Everyone has their own personal "canon." Thanks for sharing yours.

[Someone With Mass]

Someone at BioWare likes Liara. Big whoop.

[Kabanya101]

The only reason why it seems that Bioware favors Liara, is because everybody on the forums wants them to. Look at the character support threads, and NOTHING surpasses Liara. They even have a name called the Blue Brigade.

Polls have shown more people romanced Liara over Ashley and Kaiden, so yeah she wins in ME1. They didn't know how to incorporate her into ME2, that's why she got her own DLC for ME2, and that's why she has a better love scene, because they had more time to perfect it and more space to add more details.

And yes, Liara is my favorite character, but I'm not going to say she's perfect for Shep, maybe for my Shep, but not for everyones.

[AlexMBrennan]

Perhaps*. Or maybe it was cheaper to slap plot armour on one of the characters guaranteed to be alive and in Shepard's party at the end of ME1 to advance any plots the writers needed

Or maybe not. After all, when they made her and Tali the only characters guaranteed to be alive and in Shepard's party at the end of ME1 there weren't any support threads, etc.

Regarding the OP: Religious allusions... I guess you haven't been here long enough to fear the militant atheists

[Calamity Abounds]

Thank God my Shep's not named John, Anyway let me tell you about... Oh snap I'm out of troll feed

[Clonedzero]

i rarely romance liara but i gotta agree.

if there was a universal canon, liara would easily be the LI in it.

[MisterJB]

Darkhour wrote...
5. Liara has intimate knowledge of Shepard’s very being; a connection that no other love interest will ever have.

Hun, excuse me? Miranda was the one who reconstructed Shepard's brain, she was the one who made sure his personality and memories stayed intact. Therefore, she also has an intimate knowledge of Shepard's very being.

...I'm not supossed to argue in a troll thread, am I?

Modifié par MisterJB, 06 juin 2011 - 03:17 .

[AlexMBrennan]

Miranda was the Lazarus cell leader (i.e. not even a neuroscience expert); if that gives her intimate knowledge of Shepard's very being (whatever that might mean) is debatable.
Edit to clarify: I don't necessarily agree with the OP; however, his arguments should be properly refuted.

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 06 juin 2011 - 03:19 .

[Clonedzero]

MisterJB wrote...

Darkhour wrote...
5. Liara has intimate knowledge of Shepard’s very being; a connection that no other love interest will ever have.

Hun, excuse me? Miranda was the one who reconstructed Shepard's brain, she was the one who made sure his personality and memories stayed intact. Therefore, she also has an intimate knowledge of Shepard's very being.

...I'm not supossed to argue in a troll thread, am I?

she did it because it was her job, liara retrieved shepards body because she cared about him.

[Eshaye]

If only I cared about John Shepard..

Oh well!

[kaiki01]

I don't understand.....

[MisterJB]

AlexMBrennan wrote...
Miranda was the Lazarus cell leader (i.e. not even a neuroscience expert); if that gives her intimate knowledge of Shepard's very being (whatever that might mean) is debatable.

Miranda states very early on that she is very good at anything she attempts to do, I assume this includes neuroscience, and I doubt she would let Wilson or any other guy take over a certain aspect of Shepard's reconstruction if she could learn about it and supervise it personally.
In one of the videologs we can find, she'll that say that making sure Shepard's morals remained intact was part of the project. If this is not knowying one's very being, then I don't know what it is.

Clonedzero wrote...
she did it because it was her job, liara retrieved shepards body because she cared about him.

True but the OP's point was that only Liara truly knows Shepard which is untrue.

Modifié par MisterJB, 06 juin 2011 - 03:39 .

[AlexMBrennan]

Miranda states very early on that she is very good at anything she attempts to do, I assume this includes neuroscience

That's just silly - that would make her a Mary Sue of epic proportions and make the Lazarus project completely redundant - if they needed a leader then Miranda could be the leader (since that's bound to be easier than neuroscience), if they needed a sniper then she could handle it (again, easier than brain surgery), etc

Edit: Do you have a degree in science? If not, then I can assure you that that's not something you can pick up as you along.

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 06 juin 2011 - 03:53 .

[jtav]

Miranda was probably not directly involved in actually rebuilding the brain, but she did spend two years learning everything there was to know about Shepard. That forces a degree of connection, though not as great as the one with Liara because it isn't mutual.

[MisterJB]

AlexMBrennan wrote...
That's just silly - that would make her a Mary Sue of epic proportions and make the Lazarus project completely redundant - if they needed a leader then Miranda could be the leader (since that's bound to be easier than neuroscience), if they needed a sniper then she could handle it (again, easier than brain surgery), etc

Miranda was engineered to be perfect. According to the game, this allows her to be good at anything she tries.
However, being a leader is different. I'm sure that she can understand the theories of it and she's a good field commander, as proven by her ability to lead the Fire Team. But, as Miranda herself admits, she's not good at inspiring loyalty like Shepard is. Also Shepard is important beyond his leading skills, he's an icon.
Hence why Cerberus brougth him back.

Edit: Do you have a degree in science? If not, then I can assure you that that's not something you can pick up as you along,

Without a doubt...to a normal human which Miranda is not.

[jtav]

She's really smart, but it would still take her years. 1-2 at the very least. Lazarus doesn't have the time. Better to hire people who are already experts. She can follow it and so some calculations, but she was a supervisor and generalist.

[jlb524]

Why is everyone arguing over canon LIs all of a sudden?