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The best part of all the demos was the moment with the child in the duct. It was very powerful, and I can see Shepard having nightmares about this for weeks after he escapes the Earth. I found that child very suspicious. Anderson can't see him, which could be because of the timing or because of something else. And what kind of a child would cryptically and prophetically say "You can't help me" in response to an offer of help? If he was scared, he'd say "leave me alone" or something. Does Shepard look like he can't help? I'd say very much the opposite, he looks powerful and trustworthy even to an adult, not to mention to a lonely scared kid. How would that kid know if Shepard can help him or not? Very fishy.

If Shepard starts having visions of people telling him that all his struggles are in vain and he can't help anyone, I'm calling indoctrination attempt. Or maybe the kid is a symbol that represents humanity. Or something. Whatever it is, I really liked that moment when Shepard offers his hand and his help is rejected.

The krogan fertile female (princess??) - I liked that, too. She's very suspicious, as well. When she says, "Then I hope you brought an army" - very fishy, because right afterwards, Shepard is attacked by Cerberus...and no one but Cerberus. Did she know in advance that Cerberus would oppose Shepard? Being locked in her cell as she was? Or were her words a threat?

And then she says, "you don't know me," and I'm starting to wonder if she's partially indoctrinated and is trying to warn him, because her words imply that her motivations are unclear. Then, when she says "Wrex can't keep his hands off a fertile female. He'll be here," I'm already suspicious enough of her that I start to wonder if she anticipates the meeting with Wrex because she wants to kill him. Her words certainly hold no affection or hope - only bitterness, contempt, and certainty. She knows Wrex - she has a history. Hardly a "princess" - I'd say she's pretty old.

I liked what's been done to Shepard's face - he no longer looks like a robot, and his face has a tragic feel to it, and his eyes are sad. He's actually pleasant to look at. I really liked that moment when the krogan female speaks of the army, and there's an explosion that gives Shepard a shake. I like how his head tilts because of the impact. The enemy knocks on the door.

I liked how he says, "Mordin!" and he sounds genuinely pleasantly surprised to see him - but of course, Mordin has no time to greet him, and you can just tell that Shepard expected this. Cold reunions are something he's totally used to.

And I liked it when the enemy comes in and Shepard takes cover - his expression is an eye candy. It looks like he's prepared for the worst. Maybe he already knows what's really happening, at this point. He doesn't look surprised. Or maybe I'm imagining things.

And it was a good moment when Atlas appears, and we can see the driver - wearing mask, of course. It just broke my heart, poor Mook looks like he already knows that he's doomed, but he's prepared to face his fate, like a true self-sacrificing hero. Honestly, it's like that pilot already knows that he's only here so that Shepard can take him out and claim the mech. And the pilot looks his death directly in the eye, determined to go through it to the very end. I nearly cried.

I have a strong suspicion that if that moment affected me so much, then I'm going to play through the game constantly sobbing. Fighting the indoctrinated humans every step - it's dark. It's VERY dark. I like to celebrate my victories, and to feel gleeful satisfaction when I bring the enemies down, not - this.

Good shot when Shepard takes cover under Atlas' fire, too. Also, Mordin looks truly concerned during the mission, and I like that moment with his hands on the screen. The cinematics really improved.

Didn't have an issue with the lack of options in dialogue. I liked it, actually. Who selects the neutral option, anyway? I never do. Why pick "investigate" manually - just leave it to Shepard, let him ask everything you need to know automatically, since you're going to pick every investigate option anyway. It makes it less of a chore.

And less options always deepen and improve the story...as long as we are still allowed to make choices that could make a difference in the plot.

Shepard is still allowed to roleplay his reactions. And as long as he's allowed to make major choices that lead to crucially different paths, I don't need to be able to make small choices that lead to the same outcomes. I'm not a big fan of "illusion of choice" policy anyway, I find it neither satisfactory nor interactive.

I liked the omni-blade. Can't begin to tell you how many times, surrounded by husks, I wished I could have a blade in my hand to slice through them. It looks dangerous and satisfactory. And I wish it could be modified so that it injects sedatives. I want to put the humans attacking me into a stasis, and flee before they wake up.

Also, could you please, PLEASE not talk during the demo? Pause it to comment, or comment afterwards, because I want to hear what the characters are saying, and I can't hear them because you're talking! Before Shepard says, "They're indoctrinated," someone else says something, and I can't hear who that is. Is that Liara? Is she speaking of Cerberus? What exactly is she saying - is she surprised? So, she didn't know that they were indoctrinated, but Shepard did? He's better informed than she, then? (hee, Shepard is better informed than the Shadow Broker?) Or perhaps it's merely his guess? Something he prefers to believe in? I can't tell if I can't hear what they're speaking about.

Overall, it had enjoyable moments amidst all the shooting, and some nice cinematics. I'm looking forward to seeing more of the interactive part (by that, I don't mean interacting with Cerberus by shooting at them.)

With that said, if in the following week we don't catch even a glimpse of TIM, and will get no intel whatsoever on Cerberus betrayal, I'll have to disengage. Can't stay emotionally connected to a game for a freaking YEAR without even the slightest ray of hope to set things right. It's too dark and depressing right now to be truly anticipating it.

Modifié par laecraft, 07 juin 2011 - 11:16 .


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Hopefully it will be explained what hapened to samara and thane. They as well as everyone else survived the suicide mission(in my 2nd playthrough) and i havent seen them confirmed for the third and final game. Hopefully i can get a cameo lol. I romanced samara in mass effect 2.

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laecraft wrote...



Didn't have an issue with the lack of options in dialogue. I liked it, actually. Who selects the neutral option, anyway?

Good post,but I disagree with this. I actually use the neutral option quite often,it's sometimes the best option by far.

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Will we get something more on ME3 today?

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laecraft
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First: Great post, agree with pretty much everything.
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Second, two things I want to comment:
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The idea of the children being not real, at first I thought it was dumb, but a quick think about it and I already start to change my mind. Shepard being indonctrinated is a interesting thing that can happen in this game, and this ideia of "people" trying to convince him that he can't help them fits. This can lead to a HUGE plottwist some part of the game, KOTOR style.
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Second: very well said about the dialogues option. I know some people will always want to have 10 options, even if they are in the end the same (this is very present in KoTOR, for exemple, where multiple different phrases would lead to the same answers. But what we really need is choices that matter.
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And Shepard taking by himself is great, it was excellent in LoTSB, but not so good in Arrival, so it just need to be done correctly. Anyway, we almost saw nothing concerning dialogues. But from what we saw, I loved everything, the combat seens to be great, the places, the cinematics, damn, I can't wait for ME3.

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Regarding the kid... I don't believe that it's really evidence of indoctrination or anything like that. It may be, I don't know, its too early to tell, but I think the 'cryptic' "You can't help me" line is just... well, true. Shepard cannot help him or really anyone on Earth at that moment. I do think indoctrination will play a major role in the story though. In my opinion, it's quite possibly the Reapers most potent weapon.

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I´ll be surprised if the kid is anything more than a shout out to Newt. Anderson isn´t in a position from where he can see him, and the kid was a step from the corner, no misterious dissapearence.

Modifié par Nerevar-as, 07 juin 2011 - 05:32 .


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Everything seems great so far...I just hope that Legion is a party member.

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Legion and EDI got it on and gave birth to a new AI. Legion left his shell and is now a shared consciousness with EDI on board the Normandy making it the only ship that will be able to take the hurt to the reapers.

Its just a theory but hey...

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Well if Legion is in it... :) lol

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Seriously - we haven't heard what the Geth are going to be doing - I chose to send the virus to remove the indoctrination loop in their collective. I hope they ally with Shepard to take out their 'gods'.

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Rick Singh wrote...

Seriously - we haven't heard what the Geth are going to be doing - I chose to send the virus to remove the indoctrination loop in their collective. I hope they ally with Shepard to take out their 'gods'.


This.

The Geth and Alliance fighting side by side to take down the reapers? Could be cool ^_^

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I can't see any live video on IGN, atm

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PnXMarcin1PL wrote...

I can't see any live video on IGN, atm


Me neither. I think it just stopped for now. Kind of like an intermission. 

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ok then, ill go and watch ME3 trailer and gameplays , again :P

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it has begun

http://uk.ign.com/ev...2011/live-video

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It's not loading for me, just sits there doing nothing :/

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any news yet on if Mordin, Legion, and Miranda will be squadmates?

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Ghost Warrior wrote...

laecraft wrote...



Didn't have an issue with the lack of options in dialogue. I liked it, actually. Who selects the neutral option, anyway?

Good post,but I disagree with this. I actually use the neutral option quite often,it's sometimes the best option by far.



What makes a man turn neutral?  Lust for gold, Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?

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braynken wrote...

any news yet on if Mordin, Legion, and Miranda will be squadmates?


my guess is that all past surviving squadmates in the series could be temporary squadmates for certain missions.

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AWESOME! Just can't wait.

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As we move to Wednesday, the big "reveals" slow down and the responses from the press that have visited the ME3 demos will start up. As such, this thread can be unstickied as we prepare for the deluge of press articles and comments.



:devil:

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Chris Priestly wrote...

As we move to Wednesday, the big "reveals" slow down and the responses from the press that have visited the ME3 demos will start up. As such, this thread can be unstickied as we prepare for the deluge of press articles and comments.



:devil:


But obviously on Friday you're going to release more content for us to salivate over.

Obviously.