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BIOSHOCK INFINITE!!! HELL YES!!!

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The sony guy said "near" and I could have sworn I heard him say "nair"

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haha, I thought he was going to get booed off stage when he said the NGP is gonna support AT&T 3G.

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Rockworm503 wrote...

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What crap is he spewing? forget this 3D junk but saying sharing the TV better? Don't make me laugh no one makes split screen co op games anymore.


Ghost Recon. Nuff said.


Yeah even if I was interested I know I could never talk my friend into another generic war shooter.


It's not a generic war shooter. A generic war shooter would be Battlefield 3 and Modern Warfare 3.


OH right sorry generic tactical shooter.


No, it's a stealth tactical co-op future war simulator.

Modifié par Capt. Obvious, 07 juin 2011 - 01:31 .


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DukeOfNukes wrote...

haha, I thought he was going to get booed off stage when he said the NGP is gonna support AT&T 3G.


That was pretty good, it would've been great if it'd moved this thing on to whoever's after sony.

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DukeOfNukes wrote...

haha, I thought he was going to get booed off stage when he said the NGP is gonna support AT&T 3G.


LOL they were laughing....
could be worse could've been T Mobile.

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I am so tired of hearing sony people use the word "unique."

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Vita is a terrible name...almost as bad as Wii

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Ruin aka the Really Uninteresting Is Now

should've called it THAS
Typical Hack And Slash.

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HAHA the japanese dude showing off Tekken X Street Fighter looks like he's having fun (finally someone is)

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Sad to see they're making a Halo 4.

Remakes are all very well (even though outside of the graphics, it will probably be inferior to the original anyway), but making a Halo 4 is just taking it too far IMO.

Halo 3 literally wrapped up basically everything, plot wise - other than the 5 second cut-scene they were forced to tack onto the end as an 'appetiser' for this.

If the game was being made by Bungie I wouldn't have as much of a problem - but I can't help but feel that this is just milking a name for money.

(I should clarify that I'm not disappointed with the trailer at all - but rather the existance of the product itself).

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Wasn't blown away by Sony, but between a good showing of exclusive titles and pricing the Vita competitively with the 3DS, I'd say they beat MS. hat's not saying much, and a strong reveal at the end would have been nice, but they did an adequate job. I hope Project Cafe impresses, or this will be a pretty mediocre E3.

Modifié par Twitchmonkey, 07 juin 2011 - 02:03 .


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To be honest I don't care what Microsoft does. I don't have an Xbox and chances are I never will buy one. but if Halo 4 is the best they can come up with then I'm glad I'm in Sony's corner. Uncharted 3 alone is full of win.

Curious to see what Nintendo has tomorrow but for the most part I've seen what I want to.

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Battlefield 3. Amazing

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I watched AC: Revelations trailer like 10 times now. Really looking forward to it. And ME3.

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I'm glad I remained in the Sony camp myself. Their conference was dry, but at least there was substance. 

I would love to see what Nintendo has in store tomorrow, but I won't be able to watch it live.

So, far these look like the games I'm keeping an eye on in 2012:

BioShock Infinite
Ghost Recon: Future Soldier
Tomb Raider
Mass Effect 3
Hitman: Absolution
Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning

Bah, I'm suffering from information overload right now.

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Not many original titles there. Have we really slipped into an era of making a single successful title (e.g. Halo, CoD, BF, etc.) and then just sticking with it - making 20 sequels, prequels, side-stories, etc. around this title?

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Boiny Bunny wrote...

Not many original titles there. Have we really slipped into an era of making a single successful title (e.g. Halo, CoD, BF, etc.) and then just sticking with it - making 20 sequels, prequels, side-stories, etc. around this title?


Creating a new franchise entails serious business risks in a market that is already quite fickle. Hence, the conservatism. It's much like investors sticking to certain commodities and government bonds in an economic downturn - hey, Treasuries are not the most exciting security to invest in, but at least they are theoretically safe and pay a risk-free return.

I don't mind the sequels.

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Sequels (/other spin-off media) is acceptable to a certain point, but once that point is reached, breached, then zoomed past without looking back for another 14,000 miles, the industry begins to dry up as virtually nothing new or different is created.

Do we really want to see a CoD 28?

Personally, I usually draw the line at trilogies. Once you've made Game X #3, that should be about the step off point.

Halo 4 is a bit of an abomination in my eyes.  It isn't even being made by Bungie, leaving it in the same category as movie 'sequels' which feature completely different actors playing the same roles and have little to nothing to do with the original movie.

Modifié par Boiny Bunny, 07 juin 2011 - 03:07 .


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Are sequels so bad? Personally I'd rather have a smaller number of large franchises I can really get into, rather than lots of franchises that start and end in one game that I feel no connection to. Besides, it's not as though there's a lack of different IPs out there.

On an unrelated note: Come on, Bioware! Show me some TOR raids operations!

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Well, Nintendo have been doing it pretty successfully for years now (anybody know what # Mario game we're up to now? 20 or so? If you include handhelds, probably much higher. What about Zelda?)

But I think there comes a point where all great franchises need to end, and move onto something new. Did we really need a Pirates of the Carribean 4? I'd prefer if they'd left it at 3 and done something else with the budget and crew's time.

Would you like to see The Matrix 4? Lord of the Rings 4? What about Star Wars 7, 8, and 9? Titanic 2?

It all comes down to personal opinions on our end, and easy money on the end of game companies. But it's an interesting topic.

It's a wonderful experience being drawn into a new world, with new things to learn, characters, factions, history, etc.

I enjoyed DA:O and ME1 a great deal for these reasons. Without going into any details about their gameplay/other technical improvements/steps backward, DA2 and ME2 both already had a distinct feeling of 'I've already done this - there isn't much new to learn here'.  It is sometimes exciting to return to great characters and a fantastic setting (or even just a great gameplay idea) - but only so many times.

Modifié par Boiny Bunny, 07 juin 2011 - 03:17 .


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Nice this thread is now dedicated to what Boiny Bunny hates about the industry.

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i don't think Sony succeeded in abating people's concerns about PSN but getting that out of the way first thing was obviously the right thing to do because otherwise people would've sat around waiting for them to say something, so plus points on them

i'm not sure how to feel about the move, i can understand why they spent a lot of time with it tho

as for the Vita i think it succeeded, i think pricing it at the same as the 3DS is a huge move for Sony because they've always had a leg up on stuff like services and bang-for-your-buck, i think the lackluster reception for no-glasses 3d on the 3ds + apple making touch screen portable gaming popular will help the Vita as well, personally i bought a PSP and didn't like it much but loved the DSi's stylus based games so we'll see how the Vita does

i give Sony's press conference an 8.5/10
(gave Microsoft's a 7/10)

really score doesn't mean much from a critical viewpoint... Microsoft's press conference last year was considered easily the worst but they made the most money in retail that year so... whatever, new gadgets really go a long way no matter what people think of them

hopefully Nintendo's new console blows everybody away for good reasons

Modifié par 88mphSlayer, 07 juin 2011 - 03:45 .


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[Sarcasm] Ha, yes my entire 3 posts (plus 2 responses to them from two people), which were generally related to the topic have really derailed this otherwise (at the moment) utterly dead thread.

If you're one of those that cannot stand even 2 or so posts branching off topic to a broader picture, I respect that - but your own post to complain about it is equally (arguably more so) de-railing the thread.

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I wasn't going to respond again because it seemed off-topic to keep going, but really a discussion about the state of the industry in a thread discussing probably the biggest event in the industry isn't that far off topic.

A discussion about the discussion about the state of the industry is another matter..