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AznBill wrote...

Notanything wrote...

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Biotic heavy melee = rasengan


 Excuse me..What?


http://i17.photobuck...enganattack.gif


That's what you want it to be?

Modifié par Notanything, 08 juin 2011 - 05:03 .


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I thought it looked cool. I don't think it's something sheps going to be waving around like a light saber. It's a cqc charged melee, so it's only gonna be used once in awhile.

I agree and old fashioned blade would be better for the soldier class, but any tech class I'm fine with the old Swiss army omni tool.

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Notanything wrote...

AznBill wrote...

Notanything wrote...

AznBill wrote...

Biotic heavy melee should = rasengan


 Excuse me..What?


http://i17.photobuck...enganattack.gif
Image IPB


That's what you want it to be?


(forgot to add should fixed original post whoops) but yeah, it would be a lot better than a biotic blade.

Modifié par AznBill, 08 juin 2011 - 05:24 .


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I was going to say Biotics should be about range fighting, but they should really make it so we get to choose our fighting style.

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Biotics should clearly whip out Gandlaf style staves instead.

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My theory: the omni-tool materializes a blade right inside a body on the impact. The blade of light we can see is not material until it hits something. Then, once the light penetrates the matter, it becomes solid inside it, thus making a hole in it. This way, it bypasses the barrier against matter, because such barriers don't stop light.

It would explain why normal, material knifes wouldn't be effective, while an omni-blade would.

EDIT: It's obviously a recent invention, and I'm hoping that it was developed on Earth. Or maybe Cerberus developed it, in an effort to prepare to the war. They're the only ones who were doing anything, and they clearly dedicated a lot of resources to research and development of weapons, armor, and prototypes lately. The one who made it was rushing to meet a deadline, because the blade was created in a few months between ME2 and ME3. However, I didn't see Cerberus Mooks using it. Mind you, I didn't see anyone but Shepard use it. Maybe it's a prototype, and no one else has it.

Modifié par laecraft, 08 juin 2011 - 06:11 .


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laecraft wrote...

My theory: the omni-tool materializes a blade right inside a body on the impact. The blade of light we can see is not material until it hits something. Then, once the light penetrates the matter, it becomes solid inside it, thus making a hole in it. This way, it bypasses the barrier against matter, because such barriers don't stop light.

It would explain why normal, material knifes wouldn't be effective, while an omni-blade would.


That's now how it's going to be (unless a a dev reads your comment and thinks the same thing I do), but that's completely awesome.

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Yeah, but the point of a blade is to disrupt organs and cause bleeding, magic-ing a blade into you only does one, if it does that. It certainly wouldn't drop a guy as fast as just stabbing him would.

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Technically, judging from what I've read of Mass Effect technology, the Omni-Blade is probably actually a kinetic barrier in the shape of a blade, onto which a holo-skin is projected so you can, you know, see it... This is my guess anyway, so in theory, you're not really punching someone 'with light.' You're stabbing someone with an extremely sharp blade-shaped kinetic barrier.

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Weiser_Cain wrote...

Yeah, but the point of a blade is to disrupt organs and cause bleeding, magic-ing a blade into you only does one, if it does that. It certainly wouldn't drop a guy as fast as just stabbing him would.


Maybe it causes nerves damage and instant shock for organics, in addition to simply damaging the matter. And it could be causing vast inner disruption in geth and mechs, similar to electrocuting them.

The first thing a weapon needs to do is to bypass the kinetic barrier and armor. Once it's inside, it can do all kind of damage. It could be emitting neutrino that turn the matter into a goo - anything at all. The main challenge for the bullets is to close the distance to the target and to get inside the body - that's what all the speed and penetration is all about.

If getting past the protection is no longer an issue, and you can dedicate the resources of the weapon to causing damage rather than bypassing the protection, it could lead to a serious advantage of the melee over ranged weapon. In this case, it wouldn't be surprising if just one strike with such a weapon could be lethal.

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I like the idea and look of the omni-blade. I just hope engineers/infiltrators/sentinels get a skill or bonus for it since the omni-tool has a broader use for them. Something like a one-hit kill ability with a long cooldown or being able to use the omni-tool to grab enemies from a distance like an omni-hook.

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GnusmasTHX wrote...

laecraft wrote...

My theory: the omni-tool materializes a blade right inside a body on the impact. The blade of light we can see is not material until it hits something. Then, once the light penetrates the matter, it becomes solid inside it, thus making a hole in it. This way, it bypasses the barrier against matter, because such barriers don't stop light.

It would explain why normal, material knifes wouldn't be effective, while an omni-blade would.


That's now how it's going to be (unless a a dev reads your comment and thinks the same thing I do), but that's completely awesome.


Oh and I forgot, Personal Kinetic Barriers, if you look in the Codex, dont stop objects that are incoming towards the body under a certain speed. That's how someone with an active barrier can sit down without nocking the chair away for instance. So even if the blade were real, unless someone jabbed it in at the speed of a mass-effect driven slug, it would bypass the barrier entirely.

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I approve of it wholeheartedly, especially if each is different according to class. Plus, as others have stated, it's certainly more interesting than spamming the melee button (looking at you vanguards)

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i just hope the omni-blade isnt for all classes.

i wanna samara style biotic punch dudes in the face crushing their skulls.

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Don't understand how this is an issue. I thought all Omni-Tool holograms were solid? I mean, it's an "omni-tool", it's "every tool". Like, it could be a phillips-head screwdriver, then a lug-wrench, then a space lug-wrench, or whatever you need. I thought that was the point? Each new race has different tools and systems and measurements, and the Omni-Tool allows you to have anything you'd ever need for any situation all in one thing.

On that basis, what's stopping them making a "big-ass knife" Omni-Tool program? It's a cool idea. I mean hell, unless there are safety protocols, you could probably have already got a little stabby even with just a screwdriver setting...

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I can finally play as an infiltrator.  I can sneak up and stealth assassinate something with a weopon that doesn't make a loud bang and alert everything within a ten mile radius.  Even if it's not a huge element and a soldier can do the same thing, the mere option makes me pretty darn happy.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I can finally play as an infiltrator.  I can sneak up and stealth assassinate something with a weopon that doesn't make a loud bang and alert everything within a ten mile radius.  Even if it's not a huge element and a soldier can do the same thing, the mere option makes me pretty darn happy.


Lets just hope that the enemy is blind and doesn't see your big glowing arm. lol

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From behind? I'm not going to sneak up on him from the front you know.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

From behind? I'm not going to sneak up on him from the front you know.


Just pointing out the absurdity of having it glowing at all.  Especially on a class like the Infiltrator which is all about stealth. :)

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Stoko981 wrote...

Don't understand how this is an issue. I thought all Omni-Tool holograms were solid? I mean, it's an "omni-tool", it's "every tool". Like, it could be a phillips-head screwdriver, then a lug-wrench, then a space lug-wrench, or whatever you need. I thought that was the point? Each new race has different tools and systems and measurements, and the Omni-Tool allows you to have anything you'd ever need for any situation all in one thing.

On that basis, what's stopping them making a "big-ass knife" Omni-Tool program? It's a cool idea. I mean hell, unless there are safety protocols, you could probably have already got a little stabby even with just a screwdriver setting...


That makes sense. I actually even didn't know the definition of "omni", thx mate. But anyhow, devs didn't make any statement whether omni-tool is just a GUI or it can make some impact on things. Mabe a blade will affect on enemies vie electrons (electricity). I mean it'll gave those bastards a bunch of charged elements inside if their bodies.

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AznBill wrote...

Notanything wrote...

AznBill wrote...

Notanything wrote...

AznBill wrote...

Biotic heavy melee should = rasengan


 Excuse me..What?


http://i17.photobuck...enganattack.gif
Image IPB


That's what you want it to be?


(forgot to add should fixed original post whoops) but yeah, it would be a lot better than a biotic blade.


While I normally would not have thought of using a Naruto reference for biotics, the description of how Rasengen is formed is very similar to how warp is created.  A concentrated warp field that provides a bit of throw impact as well would be cool for a melee strike.  Much cooler than a biotic-blade otherwuse known as a omni-blade with a different skin.

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This is mass effect. Do you really expect to pierce the armor with your tiny little barbeque knife???
People whining about the "lightsaber" clone should STFU.

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I'm ok with it.

But my brain hurts..

I thought the omni tool was a holographic projector? How the hell does it become solid enough to kill a heavily armored guy in one hit?

I mean,

????

I wish my beamer could do that..

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Powgow wrote...

I'm ok with it.

But my brain hurts..

I thought the omni tool was a holographic projector? How the hell does it become solid enough to kill a heavily armored guy in one hit?

I mean,

????

I wish my beamer could do that..


I cba to search through the thread again, but its basically a physical knife thats created by the omni-tool.  A Monomolecular edged diamond thing that for some reason has a holographic skin on top of it.  Remember that omni-tools can create items.

*Edit* Page 18, big ass post by Iakus

Modifié par Dave666, 08 juin 2011 - 07:48 .


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Dave666 wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

From behind? I'm not going to sneak up on him from the front you know.


Just pointing out the absurdity of having it glowing at all.  Especially on a class like the Infiltrator which is all about stealth. :)


That's actually a good point.  I would assume cloak would solve that problem though.