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A rip-off assassin's creed hidden blade. But it look cool, however. They could also add some badass close quarters combat moves, like neck snapping and stuff.

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Looks dumb and cheesy but It seems like to be like very useful. I'm not gonna go outta my way to use it but I'm gonna use it if I need it.

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I'm gonna use it on Miranda and Ashley/Kaidan.

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Alistairlover94 wrote...

I'm gonna use it on Miranda and Ashley/Kaidan.


+10

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Someone With Mass wrote...

Link Ashland 614 wrote...

I wanted to ask: This Onmi-blade will be available to all classes? 'Cause I have this awesome idea in my head: Attack with a Biotic Charge and stab the hell out of the target :)


Other classes like Vanguard will have their own unique version of the attack.

Has this already been confirmed? I'm curious because I'm pretty sure I see the soldier class using the omni-blade here:

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P3G4SU5 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

Link Ashland 614 wrote...

I wanted to ask: This Onmi-blade will be available to all classes? 'Cause I have this awesome idea in my head: Attack with a Biotic Charge and stab the hell out of the target :)


Other classes like Vanguard will have their own unique version of the attack.

Has this already been confirmed? I'm curious because I'm pretty sure I see the soldier class using the omni-blade here:




Yes, Jesse confirmed that each class has their own version in the Gamespot vid.  He got quite excited when he mentioned the Vanguard.  Seems they have something special :happy: B)

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Hey, give me a nice scifi reason for this to work and I'll be fine.

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Looks sci-fi! And it's a sci-fi game! Sign me up! The knife thing plus all the new cover options is going to make stealthing around so much more fun! Yah!

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Tigerblood and MilkShakes wrote...

i dont understand why they even added it.were in the future with high tech weapons(expect the fact ammo clips have been added.totally lame) anyhow our tech and biotics are our melee.we dont need a gimmick melee weapon's


It makes sense actually. in a world where kinetic barriers become more common place a simple stab from a omni blade can bypass the heaviest barrier

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While I will buy ME 3 regardless of how it turns out, I'm a little confused by the omni-blade.  I always figured the omni-tool was a holographic projection.  How do you cut with light?  Before you scold me with "lightsaber", it's not the same.  Lightsabers are said to be made of energy, like a laser blast.

Edit: I am excited to see what's in store for the vanguard's melee attack.  I hope it has something to do with biotics.

Modifié par Neverwinter_Knight77, 08 juin 2011 - 06:28 .


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It kind of reminds me of Assassin's Creed.

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Good explanations are a few pages back.

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Neverwinter_Knight77 wrote...

While I will buy ME 3 regardless of how it turns out, I'm a little confused by the omni-blade.  I always figured the omni-tool was a holographic projection.  How do you cut with light?  Before you scold me with "lightsaber", it's not the same.  Lightsabers are said to be made of energy, like a laser blast.

Edit: I am excited to see what's in store for the vanguard's melee attack.  I hope it has something to do with biotics.


ImmortalWarrior wrote...

Indeed,
I don't know if this was discussed yet but this morning I was thinking
about it and I came up with a viable codex entry explaining the
Omni Blade.  I'll summarize lol

A new miliitary development in omni tool technology
A weapon grade mass effect genergator is built into the omni tool
It projects two triangular mass effect fields that come together at a point.  
There is a 5nm layer of air trapped between the crossing fields.
The mass effect field increases the mass of the trapped layer of air by 1000 times its natural mass.
This effectively gives weight and capacity to contain inertia into the blade. 
The increase in mass compresses the 5nm air layer to 1nm, effectively making a blade of trapped heavy air.
A holographic image is projected over the affected area to display the location of the blade to the user.

Just like that, it is justified within the confines of the science of the lore.


Modifié par ImmortalWarrior, 08 juin 2011 - 06:40 .


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I see.

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@ImmortalWarrior: Sure, that could work. A knife would probably work just as well and cost a lot less though.

Don't get me wrong, I think it looks cool and everything, no problems with it at all. Just, you know, a knife could shank a fool pretty good too. Tali has a knife in her leg holster even.

I just thought of this but omni-tools have "minifacturing fabricator[s]" right? So, couldn't it just fabricate a blade and that be it?

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www.youtube.com/watch

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I love it...and you will learn to love it...@_@

One of us...one of us...one of us...@_@

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EsterCloat wrote...

@ImmortalWarrior: Sure, that could work. A knife would probably work just as well and cost a lot less though.

Don't get me wrong, I think it looks cool and everything, no problems with it at all. Just, you know, a knife could shank a fool pretty good too. Tali has a knife in her leg holster even.

I just thought of this but omni-tools have "minifacturing fabricator[s]" right? So, couldn't it just fabricate a blade and that be it?


But how effective would a metal knife be at cutting through that fancy space armor?

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More importantly could a standard knife even penetrate a kinetic barrier? Kinetic barriers stop bullets and some pretty big impacts till they fail - will a knife even puncture that versus a kinetically charged [or maybe mass effect charged? huhu] Omni-blade punching through it?

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EsterCloat wrote...

@ImmortalWarrior: Sure, that could work. A knife would probably work just as well and cost a lot less though.

Don't get me wrong, I think it looks cool and everything, no problems with it at all. Just, you know, a knife could shank a fool pretty good too. Tali has a knife in her leg holster even.

I just thought of this but omni-tools have "minifacturing fabricator[s]" right? So, couldn't it just fabricate a blade and that be it?


Does a knife disappear into weightless nothingness when not being used?  No, is the knife in a small package that is immediately deployable on the wrist without getting in the way, no.  Convienience.  The less a soldier has to actually carry the better.  And the more functions you can cram into a military tool, the better.

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I'll manage with it, but would have preferred something else. Just a simple cinematic punch/riflebutt to the face would have been better imo.

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crackseed wrote...

More importantly could a standard knife even penetrate a kinetic barrier? Kinetic barriers stop bullets and some pretty big impacts till they fail - will a knife even puncture that versus a kinetically charged [or maybe mass effect charged? huhu] Omni-blade punching through it?


Shields are designed to stop fast moving projectiles, according to the lore a simple punch would pass through a Shield as if it wasn't there, same for a knife or 'omni blade'.

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Ahh, I think I missed that bit of info :) Good to know, but I do agree with Phae's point above.

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ImmortalWarrior wrote...

EsterCloat wrote...

@ImmortalWarrior: Sure, that could work. A knife would probably work just as well and cost a lot less though.

Don't get me wrong, I think it looks cool and everything, no problems with it at all. Just, you know, a knife could shank a fool pretty good too. Tali has a knife in her leg holster even.

I just thought of this but omni-tools have "minifacturing fabricator[s]" right? So, couldn't it just fabricate a blade and that be it?


Does a knife disappear into weightless nothingness when not being used?  No, is the knife in a small package that is immediately deployable on the wrist without getting in the way, no.  Convienience.  The less a soldier has to actually carry the better.  And the more functions you can cram into a military tool, the better.

If Robo-Shepard is being weighed down by a knife we're already having a serious problem. If you want it out of the way and easily deployable just make it wrist-mounted. Shepard's already carrying tons of heat sinks in some invisible pouch, I don't see how carrying one knife will make it suddenly intrusive and unwieldy. Saying that a military device should do all this stuff like make a knife out thin air with wristmounted mass effect generators just seems like technology for technology's sake when a normal knife would do just as well and would fill the same niche if it was just wristmounted.

I'm not trying to discredit your theory, I'm just saying there are less high-techy ways that don't look as cool but are just as functional. I'm a Vanguard anyway, I'm just waiting to see how that works out.

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less techie ways? We already are carving grains of tungsten off an ammo block in real time and accelerating it to 39 times the speed of sound every time we fire a gun. I did the calculations, using a standard metric grain as 50mg (I'll have to find the post somewhere). We have computer systems in combat suits that determine the velocity of oncoming objects in real time and adjust the intensity of mass effect field generators so they act as kinetic barriers.

We've been using knives as weapons since man first discovered he could smash one rock against another and break it into a sharp edge. We've been using gunpowder for weapons for over 800 years. Using a knife for what equates to the military's best soldier class (N7) when he/she already has the best technology money can buy goes against the trend of the game.

Joe blow from the boonies uses a knife, Shepard uses the best technology money can buy.