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[RGFrog]

There was a scifi book from way back with the premise being the main character had a knife where the edge was a single molecule (or was it atom, I forget) thick and as such was able to cut through anything. Perhaps something akin to this is what allows the slow blade to penetrate the shield?

[Freddie Arizona]

onelifecrisis wrote...
This is a game where pregnant women who are exposed to magic space dust give birth to space wizards. 

Are you saying all the magic space dust I've been snorting WON'T turn my baby into a space wizard? Shock and horror! I've been gyppied!

[Schneidend]

Dave666 wrote...

A Biotic Shep wouldn't need an Omni-tool to create a mass effect field (and couldn't anyway since they lack eezo cores), they're Biotics and could create the field themselves.

Biotic Shep, and all other biotics, are not omnipotent. They have fairly serious limitations. They have to focus. I'm of the assumption that Shepard can probably only focus on so much at once, and turning his hand into a piledriver or tuning fork of doom is serious stuff.

Moreover, eezo goes into the upgrading and operation of weapons-grade omni-tools. How do you think Tech Armor and Combat Drones float?

[onelifecrisis]

Dave666 wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

This is a game where pregnant women who are exposed to magic space dust give birth to space wizards. Seriously, you're waaaay overthinking this.

Fine, lets call it Space Magic and it can do anything at all.  Lets have Shepard using Space Magic to fly around in space in his undies punching Reapers to death for fun before using Space Magic to Magically turn all of the Reapers into fluffy bunnies.  Then Shepard can use Space Magic and teleport home, so he can put his feet up while using Space Magic to magically create a beer in his hand.

That game doesn't sound very balanced to me.

[Sidewinder_617]

This is a game where pregnant women who are exposed to magic space dust give birth to space wizards. Seriously, you're waaaay overthinking this.

that's the fun of it!
it's toying around with the idea that is (supposedly) completely ludacris!

Modifié par Sidewinder_617, 09 juin 2011 - 06:18 .

[Dave666]

onelifecrisis wrote...

Dave666 wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

This is a game where pregnant women who are exposed to magic space dust give birth to space wizards. Seriously, you're waaaay overthinking this.

Fine, lets call it Space Magic and it can do anything at all.  Lets have Shepard using Space Magic to fly around in space in his undies punching Reapers to death for fun before using Space Magic to Magically turn all of the Reapers into fluffy bunnies.  Then Shepard can use Space Magic and teleport home, so he can put his feet up while using Space Magic to magically create a beer in his hand.

That game doesn't sound very balanced to me.

But I thought 'This is a game where pregnant women who are exposed to magic space dust give birth to space wizards'.

I think you might be over thinking this.

[Kadzin]

Hardolin wrote...

Sapphira wrote...

**** **** moan thats all you people do 24/7. its a fuycking sci fi game you retarded ****s so what if its SUPER HIGH TECH KNIFE IN THE ****ING FUTURE O NOES

You don't seem to get it.

There's nothing wrong with melee weapons.
There's nothing wrong with 'futuristic' melee weapons.
What's wrong is the way it is applied in this case.
It's pretty much just a copy of HALO's energy blade, which is cheap.
It uses the omni device, and the same graphics as the tools holographic interface, also cheap.
While the omni tool is supposed to be able to modify/produce physical objects the implimentation in this respect does not bear that out. It's just an extension of the holographics, it would be like cutting your steak with a steak knife being displayed on your monitor.

I believe it's YOU who doesn't get it.

Yes it has similarities with a Halo sword, so? Star Wars had space ships does that mean that all other futuristic games can't have them? Your reasoning is flawed.
Shadow bRoker uses his omnitool to make a huge ass orange shield, which means omnitools are not just a holographic interface, nothing cheap about it.
You're so focused on it being a hologram, where does it say that it is? It's a kinetic barrier is a shape of a blade.

[Dave666]

Schneidend wrote...

Dave666 wrote...

A Biotic Shep wouldn't need an Omni-tool to create a mass effect field (and couldn't anyway since they lack eezo cores), they're Biotics and could create the field themselves.

Biotic Shep, and all other biotics, are not omnipotent. They have fairly serious limitations. They have to focus. I'm of the assumption that Shepard can probably only focus on so much at once, and turning his hand into a piledriver or tuning fork of doom is serious stuff.

Moreover, eezo goes into the upgrading and operation of weapons-grade omni-tools. How do you think Tech Armor and Combat Drones float?

Indeed.  Have you thought about what it would actually mean if Biotics could create 'Warp Blades'?

Mass Effect Fields (according to the lore) are created by the Biotic firing Neurons (electrical impulses in the brain) and directing these small electrical currents into Element Zero Nodules.  To do this they train themselves to assosciate certain gestures 'memetic memory' with the firing of said Neurons.

So if a Biotic has such fine control over these Neurons that they can create such a localized and stable field as a 'Warp Blade', why bother with Melee?  For that matter, why bother using Biotic abilities to lift and move enemies?  If a Biotic has that fine a control then they might as well just create one of these 'Warp Blades' inside of an enemies head and be done with it.  Furthermore if a Biotic has to make an actual throwing gesture to fire the Neurons assosciated with Throw, what the hell would they have to do to create such a precise and finely tuned Field as a 'Warp Blade'?  I can just imagine shepard having to hop on one leg whilst wiggling his fingers and scrunching his toes, in order to get all the right Neurons firing in just the right sequence.

Yeah, my bad on the eezo thing, I completely forgot about that which is silly given that I mentioned omnigeling armour a few hours ago in this very thread.  Armour has Shield generators in em, which means eezo.  Derp. lol

Modifié par Dave666, 09 juin 2011 - 06:38 .

[Admoniter]

I still think that the thing is in need of a major redesign, the look is just not doing it for me. Also I'm still pretty sure that a soldier/infiltrator would not be the ones running around with the glowy ass wrist blade of doom. One would think they would be using something more along the lines of this...


or this

Modifié par Admoniter, 09 juin 2011 - 06:39 .

[Garlador]

The strength of Halo Spartan + the powers of a Star Wars Jedi + the "adventurous" spirit of Captain Kirk + the claws of Wolverine + the dance moves of Napoleon Dynamite = My Commander Shepard.

Ladies, just TRY and stay away from his raw, animal magnetism.

[Dave666]

Garlador wrote...

The strength of Halo Spartan + the powers of a Star Wars Jedi + the "adventurous" spirit of Captain Kirk + the claws of Wolverine + the dance moves of Napoleon Dynamite = My Commander Shepard.

Ladies, just TRY and stay away from his raw, animal magnetism.

Damn that made me laugh!  Thank you. 

[Kadzin]

Garlador wrote...

The strength of Halo Spartan + the powers of a Star Wars Jedi + the "adventurous" spirit of Captain Kirk + the claws of Wolverine + the dance moves of Napoleon Dynamite = My Commander Shepard.

Ladies, just TRY and stay away from his raw, animal magnetism.

+1

[Jenaimarre]

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but I only have one thing to say about the Omni-blade.

... shouldn't it be on Shepard's left hand?

[Valmarn]

Sidewinder_617 wrote...

just noticed something. the omni-tool is mounted on shepard's right hand,
while the omni-blade is mounted on his left hand. it is an independent system.

also, it deploys like it's on a rotary mount, so there might be permanent solid components to it.
look for it in the demo, see what you make of it with this in mind.

In the gameplay videos showing Shepard using the Omni-Blade, it is mounted on his right hand, while the Mass Effect 3 box art shows it on his left hand.

The Omni-Tool and the Omni-Blade are one and the same. Any difference observed is due to an oversight on BioWare's part.

[Valmarn]

Admoniter wrote...

I still think that the thing is in need of a major redesign, the look is just not doing it for me. Also I'm still pretty sure that a soldier/infiltrator would not be the ones running around with the glowy ass wrist blade of doom. One would think they would be using something more along the lines of this...

That's exactly what I was thinking of.

As I mentioned earlier, it's ironic that Shepard gets the lightsaber, and the main the characters in a Star Wars game get the metal blade. Yeah, I know they're not Jedi, but lightsabers are, of course, the weapon most commonly associated with Star Wars.

[Dead Shizno]

so it looks like each class "might" have diffrent styles of omi blade,only one i know of to be diffrent is the vanguard class from one of the interviews with CH him self either on G4 or Gamespot videos

[Valmarn]

Jenaimarre wrote...

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but I only have one thing to say about the Omni-blade.

... shouldn't it be on Shepard's left hand?

Maybe Shepard is right hand-dominant.

[Someone With Mass]

I think Shepard is using something else than the omni-blade at times.

[Notanything]

Sometimes he seems to do a punch with the omni-tool active, but with no blade visible. The engineer variant perhaps? It seems to look like an electric discharge both times. But the first time I see it at about 1:07 it looks like the omni-tool forms into a glove, or gauntlet and discharges as an effect. Pathetic, they have singularity which is an Adept ability and they don't display any biotic melee. It would probably just be animation copy-and-paste of the blades from what I've seen so far.

[sotolam]

LOVE the OMNI-BLADE

[BlazeShepard]

The omnitool (which is a holographic device) can create fireballs, freeze people, shock them, administer medi-gel, hack, and be used as a flashlight. If it can do all that, adding a blade to it isn't much of a stretch.

[BlazeShepard]

Valmarn wrote...

Jenaimarre wrote...

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but I only have one thing to say about the Omni-blade.

... shouldn't it be on Shepard's left hand?

Maybe Shepard is right hand-dominant.

Also, sometimes Shepard has a omnitool appear on both arms at different times.  It's usually on Shepard's left arm, but when a Soldier Shepard uses Adrenaline rush an omnitool appears on his/her right arm for the duration of the power

[Xerxes52]

Admoniter wrote...

Bingo. This is something I would have loved to see.

Republic Commando FTW.

[DialupToaster]

If a holographic drone (mass effect 2 engineer power) A blade made by the omni tool can kill a reaper... Simple as that.
Besides it's bad@ss!