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crackseed wrote...

archurban wrote...

well, it looks awesome. but in reality, you can't just kill somebody with holo graphic-ish look weapon even in 26th century. it's not right. I thought that bioware might bring some real look serious deadly melee weapon. but hey, we have still 8 months to get ME 3. who knows? something will be changed before releasing.


But see, that assumption is incorrect. It's already been stated that while the omni-tool mostly projects holographic feedback, it can and in the case of the omni-blade, will create a PHYSICAL weapon which will certainly kill people you hit. While they haven't gone in depth on the lore for it yet, given that the weapon could easily be a temporarily generated mass effect field, kinectic projection or simply the omni-tool using some of it's own hardware components to form a blade - it's certainly NOT a hologram :)


They really don't have to go in depth about the lore because its already in the codex,  it is definately not a hologram. The omnitool has been known to have a manufacturing component since ME1, and Casey said as much about the blade in a recent tweet. Its just the omnitool doing what its minifacturing component was made to do, make stuff at will.

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Fixers0 wrote...

Personally i found the Omni-Sabre rather offending, not directly agains hard established lore, But more against the overall style and universe of Mass Effect,

I think that there is no real explanation needed, it's just that things like this cheapen the overall credibilty of Mass Effect series, and damages the original atmosphere the universe had.


Couldn't have said it any better myself.

And its sad.

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The omniblade makes no sense. I've tried to think of an explanation for how it works, and I came up with many...but none really had any kind of practicality to them or were plausible in the least. I am conflicted now, wondering if I want to hear Bioware's codex explanation of it or not. It's just one of those things, like a lightsaber, which should not be defined. Yet it stands out because the Mass Effect universe seemed more anchored in science than fantasy (though don't get me started on biotics). I'm not sure what to think, hopefully ME 3's main story will be good and I'll take the technobabbe with a grain, or ten pound rock of salt.

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Wow, people are still going about this?
This is why we can't have nice things :(

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Ryllen Laerth Kriel wrote...

The omniblade makes no sense. I've tried to think of an explanation for how it works, and I came up with many...but none really had any kind of practicality to them or were plausible in the least. I am conflicted now, wondering if I want to hear Bioware's codex explanation of it or not. It's just one of those things, like a lightsaber, which should not be defined. Yet it stands out because the Mass Effect universe seemed more anchored in science than fantasy (though don't get me started on biotics). I'm not sure what to think, hopefully ME 3's main story will be good and I'll take the technobabbe with a grain, or ten pound rock of salt.


Really? The omni blade has been possible since ME1. Read the Omnitool codex, every omni tool has minifacturing capability. The omnitool itself is not holographic, only the GUI is. The bladee is created using the omnitools manufacturing capability, then dissasembled when not in use.

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sympathy4saren wrote...

Fixers0 wrote...

Personally i found the Omni-Sabre rather offending, not directly agains hard established lore, But more against the overall style and universe of Mass Effect,

I think that there is no real explanation needed, it's just that things like this cheapen the overall credibilty of Mass Effect series, and damages the original atmosphere the universe had.


Couldn't have said it any better myself.

And its sad.


I can't argue when its about a matter of taste, but I disagree. 

I do agree that the marketing for said feature, and ME3 in general has been very hammy however, but thats the way Bioware marketing has been, even back during DAO,

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If the Omni-Blade is really that much of a problem for some of you, then why don't you re-create ME3 but without The Omni-bla...What?... too hard?... copyright?
Deary, Deary Me.....
That means you will just have to make do with Bioware's version?
Poor you...

#908
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If we're going by the lore, then I can just say that the omni-blade should be able to pass through shields with ease, so it makes sense that Shepard is using it. And it's faster than whipping out a normal knife.

Also:
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There are way more ridiculous things than the omni-blade.

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Someone With Mass wrote...

If we're going by the lore, then I can just say that the omni-blade should be able to pass through shields with ease, so it makes sense that Shepard is using it. And it's faster than whipping out a normal knife.

Also:
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There are way more ridiculous things than the omni-blade.


That I don't really like all that much, why use two fists and not just one? the animation itself is what I don't like about it unless they want to keep the one hand punch for a biotic punch(DOO EET).

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I find it funny that people will baulk at a holographic blade and totally accept the sentinels tech armour at the same time. In the ME universe if tech powers can create a surface that can resist bullets it can damn well cut people, deal with it!

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That standing up stab move of the OmniBlade seems too slow to me. Might be visually appealing at first but it'll get very tedious after the honeymoon is over.
Whereas the stealthy in-cover omniblade move to take down a target on the other side of the cover is lovely quick.

Other then that - camera angles and animations associated with it are very slick and I can't wait to see my Shepard stab things with sharp light!

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Someone With Mass wrote...

If we're going by the lore, then I can just say that the omni-blade should be able to pass through shields with ease, so it makes sense that Shepard is using it. And it's faster than whipping out a normal knife.

Also:
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There are way more ridiculous things than the omni-blade.


I'd say leave the power fist thingy to Fallout, I think the omni-blade is better then this one.

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I found it kind of cheesy in my opinion. Also, the animation looked really weird.

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I am like REALLY excited about this, not sure if someone else already found it and I figured this was the best forum to post on; someone else might've already mentioned it I didnt feel like sorting through 30+ pages with this slow computer. Here'e the amazing discovery:
One of the loading screens in Mass Effect 2 is a "blueprint" to the omni blade!!!@!#$#%#@....
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Modifié par ScoobySniper74, 10 juillet 2011 - 04:13 .


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LordNige wrote...

I find it funny that people will baulk at a holographic blade and totally accept the sentinels tech armour at the same time. In the ME universe if tech powers can create a surface that can resist bullets it can damn well cut people, deal with it!


Exactaly

Besides, no one reacted the same way to this
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Arrow70 wrote...

LordNige wrote...

I find it funny that people will baulk at a holographic blade and totally accept the sentinels tech armour at the same time. In the ME universe if tech powers can create a surface that can resist bullets it can damn well cut people, deal with it!


Exactaly

Besides, no one reacted the same way to this
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Damn right! Besides, it´s 2186!!! Technology must be really advanced at this point in the series! Wake up, people!

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Fatemaster wrote...

Arrow70 wrote...

LordNige wrote...

I find it funny that people will baulk at a holographic blade and totally accept the sentinels tech armour at the same time. In the ME universe if tech powers can create a surface that can resist bullets it can damn well cut people, deal with it!


Exactaly

Besides, no one reacted the same way to this
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Damn right! Besides, it´s 2186!!! Technology must be really advanced at this point in the series! Wake up, people!


You are totally right. Where is our Deathstar Dreadnought already? OP shouldn't freak out like this. It's the future. You'd probably shut down the internet just to save the libraries, right?

Techno-Conservatists really annoy me.

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Pft. The field of science my lab does research in utilizes optical tweezers, which are basically a specifically-focused beam of light that can attract or repel certain types of particles. It's not inconceivable to have a shield or blade that can manipulate matter in a similar way.

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I'm sure the omni-blade will prove an interesting additiion to the close range shotgun fighter, but I kill at range with a M-98 Widow sniper rifle.

That said I may at some point in ME3 have to beat off a husk at close range, but I wish I could just use Melee rather than a holographic blade.

As a rule of thumb, if they are close enough to touch, you have made a mistake.

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sael_feman wrote...

I'm sure the omni-blade will prove an interesting additiion to the close range shotgun fighter, but I kill at range with a M-98 Widow sniper rifle.

That said I may at some point in ME3 have to beat off a husk at close range, but I wish I could just use Melee rather than a holographic blade.

As a rule of thumb, if they are close enough to touch, you have made a mistake.


Well no need to wish, the regular punch is still in the game, and every shep uses it if you tap B.

The omni blade/fist/flame/whatevertheotherclassesuse is just the insta kill move that happens if you hold down the melee button instead of tapping it.

The point is, the attack will instantly kill the enemy, but its slow and leaves you open to fire from other enemies.

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Thanks @Nashiktal, it's good to know I don't have to use it as default melee. I just had a brainwave however, in combination with assassination cloak the omni-blade might prove useful. I'm thinking like an Infiltrator, my chosen character class.

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Nashiktal wrote...

Well no need to wish, the regular punch is still in the game, and every shep uses it if you tap B.

The omni blade/fist/flame/whatevertheotherclassesuse is just the insta kill move that happens if you hold down the melee button instead of tapping it.

The point is, the attack will instantly kill the enemy, but its slow and leaves you open to fire from other enemies.


I don't think it's insta-kill.
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That guy survived.

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So did he. For about a second before Shep blew him away with his shotgun, anyway.

#923
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Well the omni blade has been shown as an insta kill, and its been said as such.

That isn't the omniblade, and we still have nine months from release, so /shrug.

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If the omni-blade is the only insta-kill melee weapon, then it's overpowered as hell.

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We'll have to see in March 2012, but it had better be balanced during gameplay. Certain classes will use it more than others. My Infiltrator class avoids melee like the plague.