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[Pulletlamer]

Memmahkth wrote...

I disagree with you here.  Star Wars may have lightsabers, but Mass Effect is not Star Wars.  So you can't say since one has it, the other must.  The biggest problem I think people have with the omni tool becoming "physical" is that they figure it's just a holographic interface where haptic adaptive interfaces must be used.

masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Codex/Technology

You can read or have the omni tool description read to you on this page, and further down in the secondary codex entries is the haptic adaptive interface entry.

Why can't people say it looks stupid?  I don't understand that.  But whatever.. also, the aliens are not speaking english.  It's all translated on the fly, or the common trading language.  At least, that's the impression I got from the book.

I know Mass Effect it's not Star Wars.
"Just because Star wars has holographic blades doesn't mean ME must". I agree. Doesn't contradict my point.

It's not that  that ME has that technology because Star Wars does, it's that if Star Wars has (in the universe it's ambiented) has it because there's supposed to be technology capable of doing that, so why ME shouldn't, provided that there's kinetic barriers, VI, IA...and enough hints to suggest it can exist?

The omni tool can somehow spawn holographic combat drones that act as if they were physical drones in all aspects, but can't spawn a physical blade? Where's the difference?

In the comics it's supposed to be translated, I know, (Jack Harper talking in asari language,..etc) but in ME (the games) there's not even a single reference that suggests that alien species are talking in a different language.

Modifié par Pulletlamer, 16 juillet 2011 - 03:58 .

[MassStorm]

Is Omni-blade available for every class???? I would be pissed off if the vanguards do not get something similar....couldn't find any info regarding...thanks for every info you can provide

[Arrow70]

WHY DID NO ONE REACT THIS WAY TO THE SHADOW BROKERS SHEILD?
Its the same principle and is not new in any wway, shape or form












Aside from this, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER THAT THE OMNI-BLADE BREAKS THE LORE.
So can we please stop shouting about the lore and wait till the game comes out before we render total judgement?

[Metalunatic]

I agree that something has to be done about it. Preferrably remove it. We can do with rifle butting!

[Pulletlamer]

MassStorm wrote...

Is Omni-blade available for every
class???? I would be pissed off if the vanguards do not get something
similar....couldn't find any info regarding...thanks for every info you
can provide

Yes but different classes have different attacks. You might not actually get omni-blades (as in seen for the soldier) for all the classes, but each class will have a different meele attack.

For example as, Someone With Mass posted i page 39 of this thread, this may be the Sentinel's "omni-blade":

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/7548360/39#7849767

Arrow70 wrote...

WHY DID NO ONE REACT THIS WAY TO THE SHADOW BROKERS SHEILD?
Its the same principle and is not new in any wway, shape or form

Aside from this, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER THAT THE OMNI-BLADE BREAKS THE LORE.
So can we please stop shouting about the lore and wait till the game comes out before we render total judgement?

Exactly my point.

Tech-armor, combat drones...

Modifié par Pulletlamer, 16 juillet 2011 - 04:22 .

[Arrow70]

Pulletlamer wrote...

Arrow70 wrote...

WHY DID NO ONE REACT THIS WAY TO THE SHADOW BROKERS SHEILD?
Its the same principle and is not new in any wway, shape or form

Aside from this, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER THAT THE OMNI-BLADE BREAKS THE LORE.
So can we please stop shouting about the lore and wait till the game comes out before we render total judgement?

Exactly my point.

Tech-armor, combat drones...

Well the tech armor and drne could be explained in s that it is nt the same concept as the SB sheild and omni-blade (i.e. the drone could be just a small floating device projecting a holographic shell (and not actually be what many here like to call hard light) but I understand your point

there are 2 things I don't understand

1- Why is every one's immediate reaction is to assume it breaks the lore when the game is no where near release.
and
2-Why did no one react this way to the shadow broker's sheild that comes out of HIS omni-tool (as seen above)

[lietk12]

Arrow70 wrote...

Well the tech armor and drne could be explained in s that it is nt the same concept as the SB sheild and omni-blade (i.e. the drone could be just a small floating device projecting a holographic shell (and not actually be what many here like to call hard light) but I understand your point

Except for the SB's info-drone--that was hard light in that it got in Shepard's way all the time and Shepard couldn't walk through its light.
And I haven't tried walking into combat drones, but I assume they also don't let Shepard walk through their light.

[Iakus]

Arrow70 wrote...

there are 2 things I don't understand

1- Why is every one's immediate reaction is to assume it breaks the lore when the game is no where near release.
and
2-Why did no one react this way to the shadow broker's sheild that comes out of HIS omni-tool (as seen above)

1) it doesn't break lore.  It just looks stupid.  See my link below.

2)  The Shadow Broker's shield could be an early version of the technology that the omniblade would become.  But its use in the DLC was as little more than a physical barrier.  It's rarely used as an actual weapon.  Certainly not one with an edge.

More strange than the shield is that Shepard thinks it's s good idea to get into fisticuffs with a creature that could flatten Grunt with one shot:blink:

[Nokterne]

Has the omni-tool ever made sense? What's the explanation for it shooting incinerates and overloads anyway?

[lietk12]

Incinerate: "is a high-explosive plasma round fired from the user's omni-tool"
Overload: ??? I'm guessing it hacks into guns/shield-generating-computers/etc.
Cryo Blast: "the user's omni-tool fires a mass of super-cooled subatomic particles"

[Schneidend]

Looks awesome, perfectly explainable with Mass Effect's technology, and it's effective. One of the best things to happen to the franchise's combat, I'd say.

[Someone With Mass]

I think the Adept's version is a little sillier, anyway. A psionic blade? Really? Want to build more pylons while you're at it?

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 16 juillet 2011 - 10:58 .

[A Great Biotic Wind]

iakus wrote...

Arrow70 wrote...

there are 2 things I don't understand

1- Why is every one's immediate reaction is to assume it breaks the lore when the game is no where near release.
and
2-Why did no one react this way to the shadow broker's sheild that comes out of HIS omni-tool (as seen above)

1) it doesn't break lore.  It just looks stupid.  See my link below.

2)  The Shadow Broker's shield could be an early version of the technology that the omniblade would become.  But its use in the DLC was as little more than a physical barrier.  It's rarely used as an actual weapon.  Certainly not one with an edge.

More strange than the shield is that Shepard thinks it's s good idea to get into fisticuffs with a creature that could flatten Grunt with one shot:blink:

Or, the Shadow Broker could be an Infiltrator that uses combat/tech. Which I think it really comes down to, the power affinity. If you ask me, the Omni-Blade would fit perfectly for the Infiltrator, being combat/tech and all.

Also, with the whole hologram being dangerous debate: Even holograms have matter. If you can condense the holographic matter enough, you could get a sharp edge. 

Modifié par A Great Biotic Wind, 16 juillet 2011 - 11:04 .

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Someone With Mass wrote...

I think the Adept's version is a little sillier, anyway. A psionic blade? Really? Want to build more pylons while you're at it?

Glad I am not the only who thought a "Psi-blade" was silly. Biotics are not protross.

[Arrow70]

lietk12 wrote...

Arrow70 wrote...

Well the tech armor and drne could be explained in s that it is nt the same concept as the SB sheild and omni-blade (i.e. the drone could be just a small floating device projecting a holographic shell (and not actually be what many here like to call hard light) but I understand your point

Except for the SB's info-drone--that was hard light in that it got in Shepard's way all the time and Shepard couldn't walk through its light.
And I haven't tried walking into combat drones, but I assume they also don't let Shepard walk through their light.

Well this could simply be a matter of gameplay, (you can't occupy the same space as the drone in the engine)

[Iakus]

A Great Biotic Wind wrote...

Or, the Shadow Broker could be an Infiltrator that uses combat/tech. Which I think it really comes down to, the power affinity. If you ask me, the Omni-Blade would fit perfectly for the Infiltrator, being combat/tech and all.

Also, with the whole hologram being dangerous debate: Even holograms have matter. If you can condense the holographic matter enough, you could get a sharp edge. 

I'm cool with a monomolecular blade being deployed.  I just wish it didn't look so much like an onitool's haptic interface.

A holographic, and therefore light-based blade.  No...just...no.

[Iakus]

Lizardviking wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

I think the Adept's version is a little sillier, anyway. A psionic blade? Really? Want to build more pylons while you're at it?

Glad I am not the only who thought a "Psi-blade" was silly. Biotics are not protross.

Indeed, especially since biotics are not psionics.  

[lietk12]

iakus wrote...

light-based blade.  No...just...no.

F***ing photons, how do they work. It's not out of the realm of science fiction to have light that can apply a force on matter, precisely because light can apply forces on certain types of matter right now.

Modifié par lietk12, 17 juillet 2011 - 12:00 .

[Mecha Tengu]

oh who cares how it works

It's just another awesome button

[Someone With Mass]

Mecha Tengu wrote...

oh who cares how it works

It's just another awesome button

Yeah, okay. We get it. One of the developers said that. Ha ha. Very funny. 

It's purely used when people are butthurt over something trivial.

Now let that overused phrase die.

[TheCrakFox]

Still waiting on confirmation of a head-crushingly powerful biotic punch for vanguards.

[Schneidend]

A Great Biotic Wind wrote...

Or, the Shadow Broker could be an Infiltrator that uses combat/tech. Which I think it really comes down to, the power affinity. If you ask me, the Omni-Blade would fit perfectly for the Infiltrator, being combat/tech and all.

Also, with the whole hologram being dangerous debate: Even holograms have matter. If you can condense the holographic matter enough, you could get a sharp edge. 

So should the Soldier just hit people with a big rock?

[SandTrout]

In the comics it's supposed to be translated, I know, (Jack Harper talking in asari language,..etc) but in ME (the games) there's not even a single reference that suggests that alien species are talking in a different language.

Incorrect. On Noveria, when you talk to Saren's commando plant before making the cure for the virus, she explains her cover story. Shepard responds "Mind translating that to Galach?", which is an apparent reference to a Galactic Basic trade language.

Also, when persueing the Thane romantic plot, Shepard makes a comment about her translator glitching because it didn't pick up the word 'Siha'.

[Yakko77]

The "blade" is supposed to be different for each class IIRC. Can't wait to see the engineer version in action!

[Yakko77]

Arrow70 wrote...

WHY DID NO ONE REACT THIS WAY TO THE SHADOW BROKERS SHEILD?
Its the same principle and is not new in any wway, shape or form












Aside from this, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER THAT THE OMNI-BLADE BREAKS THE LORE.
So can we please stop shouting about the lore and wait till the game comes out before we render total judgement?

There you go making sense and stuff.

STOP IT!

You'll offend the internet.