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farbror_ace

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40 hours played at landsmeet, i fI try to save the save just dissappears

I am amazed this bug(bug is not a sufficent word for this) seems to have been around for 4 months!?!?



No wonder people dont want to pay for games........

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There is a hard cap with the size of game saves. That leads to issues if you sell to much to any one vendor. It's irritating, but it is a known bug and there is only so much they can do about it. If they have the vendors dump inventory, they will have people screaming about the things they sold disappearing. It's kind of a no-win for the devs. The only real solution is to have the vendors refuse to buy anything when they reach the cap, but that may be an awful lot of programming.

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Since this has been going on since just after the release I am finding it increasingly hard to believe that anything is effectively being done. I had problems starting with my 3rd character, after I had purchased Warden's Keep and Return to Ostagar (which we know had problems). There might be an issue of the memory cache in the 360 not being able to deal with the game code in the predicted manner it should. Or the engine is flooding the cache with too much data at one point during the save process. If I were Bioware I'd delay Awakenings because this ain't a little patch and go thing, it very well mean waiting until the game of the year edition for a final fix.

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I believe that my most recent character Nyx is is no longer playable. I have been unable to procede past rescuing Anora without encountering a Corrupted save. This is most disappointing to lose 33 plus hours of gameplay. I am very disappointed that this glitch has not been fixed.

Modifié par inkaholicj, 07 mars 2010 - 12:35 .


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I just wanted to add myself to the list of people that lost many, many hours of gameplay because of this problem.

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Happened to me for the first time. My most powerful 44+ hour profile suddenly becomes broke while helping the blind templar root out the source of evil in the elven alienage just before the landsmeet. Both the manual save and auto-save will not load. I never abused any glitches but I did sell all my junk to the dwarf at the party camp in case I wanted to buy something back i'd know where to look, so I'm guessing that is the cause like others have said. I also have all the DLCs. Using the 360. I was planning on importing this profile to awakening but now I don't even plan on buying the new game. It sure would be nice if we could get a damn patch for this and somehow recover my latest profile cause this is just beyond ridiculous.

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First time I got the glitch I lost 6 characters (4 finished), about 200+ hours, almost made me snap the game in two. So many bugs and no fixes....I'm not touching the expansion till they patch this game. I have 4 characters again ready to import but can't bring myself to get the expansion which costs almost as much as a new game with no word on a patch for us.

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I agree. I bought all the DLC for this game, but with this issue, there is no way I am buying the expansion.

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sami jo wrote...

There is a hard cap with the size of game saves. That leads to issues if you sell to much to any one vendor. It's irritating, but it is a known bug and there is only so much they can do about it. If they have the vendors dump inventory, they will have people screaming about the things they sold disappearing. It's kind of a no-win for the devs. The only real solution is to have the vendors refuse to buy anything when they reach the cap, but that may be an awful lot of programming.


First, there are any number of technical fixes available here-- vendors could simply dump low-value common items, vendors could be allocated additional space in the save file, etc.

Second, I don't see how that would be an "awful lot of programming".  Software has to manage memory all the time-- add a simple check to see if the vendor exceeds a limit, and if they do pop up a message that the vendor has no room in their store.  It's not significantly more complicated than the checks to see if you can afford an item.

All of that pales in comparison to the most obvious step for a professional company-- this thread is months old and has zero responses from their staff.  Bioware has a responsibility to their customers to address the problem.

This is not one of those subjective game balance issues about what is or isn't "broken"-- for example, the recent thread about whether or not you could be able to freeze/shatter certain NPCs.  This is a simple objective case where a flaw in the software renders the customers' games unrecoverable, in a genre with highly cumulative gameplay where saved games represent tens of hours of their time.

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sooooooo... another patch come and gone, and still we have a broken game.  but hey, at least we are all ready for the expansion now!!!! awsome....<_<

Modifié par HedStr8EyesTite, 10 mars 2010 - 04:05 .


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Krethka wrote...

sami jo wrote...

There is a hard cap with the size of game saves. That leads to issues if you sell to much to any one vendor. It's irritating, but it is a known bug and there is only so much they can do about it. If they have the vendors dump inventory, they will have people screaming about the things they sold disappearing. It's kind of a no-win for the devs. The only real solution is to have the vendors refuse to buy anything when they reach the cap, but that may be an awful lot of programming.


First, there are any number of technical fixes available here-- vendors could simply dump low-value common items, vendors could be allocated additional space in the save file, etc.

Second, I don't see how that would be an "awful lot of programming".  Software has to manage memory all the time-- add a simple check to see if the vendor exceeds a limit, and if they do pop up a message that the vendor has no room in their store.  It's not significantly more complicated than the checks to see if you can afford an item.

All of that pales in comparison to the most obvious step for a professional company-- this thread is months old and has zero responses from their staff.  Bioware has a responsibility to their customers to address the problem.

This is not one of those subjective game balance issues about what is or isn't "broken"-- for example, the recent thread about whether or not you could be able to freeze/shatter certain NPCs.  This is a simple objective case where a flaw in the software renders the customers' games unrecoverable, in a genre with highly cumulative gameplay where saved games represent tens of hours of their time.


This is an absolutely brilliant post, and sums up the issue perfectly, including the fixes needed. I bet everyone here would have been fine with, "Sorry, I've got no more room." over hours of lost time.  The developers owe it to us to at least REPLY.

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HedStr8EyesTite

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Harbringerr wrote...

Krethka wrote...

sami jo wrote...

There is a hard cap with the size of game saves. That leads to issues if you sell to much to any one vendor. It's irritating, but it is a known bug and there is only so much they can do about it. If they have the vendors dump inventory, they will have people screaming about the things they sold disappearing. It's kind of a no-win for the devs. The only real solution is to have the vendors refuse to buy anything when they reach the cap, but that may be an awful lot of programming.


First, there are any number of technical fixes available here-- vendors could simply dump low-value common items, vendors could be allocated additional space in the save file, etc.

Second, I don't see how that would be an "awful lot of programming".  Software has to manage memory all the time-- add a simple check to see if the vendor exceeds a limit, and if they do pop up a message that the vendor has no room in their store.  It's not significantly more complicated than the checks to see if you can afford an item.

All of that pales in comparison to the most obvious step for a professional company-- this thread is months old and has zero responses from their staff.  Bioware has a responsibility to their customers to address the problem.

This is not one of those subjective game balance issues about what is or isn't "broken"-- for example, the recent thread about whether or not you could be able to freeze/shatter certain NPCs.  This is a simple objective case where a flaw in the software renders the customers' games unrecoverable, in a genre with highly cumulative gameplay where saved games represent tens of hours of their time.


This is an absolutely brilliant post, and sums up the issue perfectly, including the fixes needed. I bet everyone here would have been fine with, "Sorry, I've got no more room." over hours of lost time.  The developers owe it to us to at least REPLY.


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I just bought the game, 4 day ago, and it's sad to know that i'll have the same problem, sooner or later, a shame that a company like bioware doesn't care about this problem.

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farbror_ace wrote...

40 hours played at landsmeet, i fI try to save the save just dissappears
I am amazed this bug(bug is not a sufficent word for this) seems to have been around for 4 months!?!?

No wonder people dont want to pay for games........


I had this problem.  I had to play all the way through the landsmeet  then exit Denerim ( I chose to go to Camp) to finally get the game to save.  Maybe you could try that?

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mastermerol wrote...

I just bought the game, 4 day ago, and it's sad to know that i'll have the same problem, sooner or later, a shame that a company like bioware doesn't care about this problem.


There are a few workarounds for the overloading merchants, one way is to find out how much the stuff you're selling is worth, then use the item dupe glitch to get that amount of money and just destroy the items. Or just make sure you spread out the merchants you sell to. Also be careful how much stuff you store in the chest you get at Wardens Keep, pretty sure this can be overloaded as well. That being said, I'm sure you'll run into a number of other glitches/bugs that are present in the game. Image IPB

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Yea I just had a second characters entire file become corrupted.  Thats two now.  I have read on this forum that some people think it is selling too much to a particular merchant that corrupts the files??  Man....see if they are going to put a merchant in the camp they should at least make sure this doesn't happen.  How about giving too much to your troops would that do it too do you think??  Oh I want to take a sledge hammer to his game right now.  <_<

Modifié par Aynslie, 15 mars 2010 - 09:39 .


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Ciry wrote...

If you have used the endless crystal glitch in Redcliffe, it will at some point corrupt your savegames.



he's right, this happened to me twice after I used the redcliff infinite money glitch, it just corrupted my good file and I already pre-orderd Awakening, now I got to speed run through the Origins just to play Awakening. :(

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Dark Ghoul wrote...

Ciry wrote...

If you have used the endless crystal glitch in Redcliffe, it will at some point corrupt your savegames.



he's right, this happened to me twice after I used the redcliff infinite money glitch, it just corrupted my good file and I already pre-orderd Awakening, now I got to speed run through the Origins just to play Awakening. :(


If you're going to cheat for money use the item dupe not the crystals, it won't ruin your game and is so much easier and faster.

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Bumping for justice.

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It happened to me last night for the first time on my 2nd playthrough. On my first playthrough did'nt use the Crystal Money trick (did'nt knew it), no problem. On this playthrough i used it and i lost "lucky me" only 2 saves around level 18, unfortunatly i save often and only lost about an hour. But now i'm very careful. I save more often and make sure my save is valid by reloading it immediatly to be sure it's not corrupted.

And YES i'm amazed of Bioware lack of response on this issue.   I downloaded Awakening form Xbox live, i just hope this bug will not be carried over there.

Modifié par Kaynos1972, 16 mars 2010 - 09:16 .


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it's basically the same game engine so yes.

Lot of expansion, yet not a single fix on any game breaking bugs only small patchs on issues that nobody ever noticed or care.

Modifié par sxdemon, 16 mars 2010 - 10:17 .


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Can somebody confirm whether or not the expansion has the same issue? It will definitely affect my purchasing decision. The fact that I ran into this in Origins prevented Awakening from being a day one purchase for me.

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Yes the expansion has all the bugs Origins has, corrupt saves, King ending screwed up, pretty much every know bug in origins cares over to awaking do to them using the same game engine. 10 hrs into the expansion and now I'm getting corrupted saves.

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Eragondragonrider wrote...

Yes the expansion has all the bugs Origins has, corrupt saves, King ending screwed up, pretty much every know bug in origins cares over to awaking do to them using the same game engine. 10 hrs into the expansion and now I'm getting corrupted saves.


Guess Bioware's not getting my money then.

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13Dannyboy13 wrote...

Dark Ghoul wrote...

Ciry wrote...

If you have used the endless crystal glitch in Redcliffe, it will at some point corrupt your savegames.



he's right, this happened to me twice after I used the redcliff infinite money glitch, it just corrupted my good file and I already pre-orderd Awakening, now I got to speed run through the Origins just to play Awakening. :(


If you're going to cheat for money use the item dupe not the crystals, it won't ruin your game and is so much easier and faster.


You know you can do the glitch when Bella becomes the head of the tavern in redcliff right, like the boss has them but their worth money, if you make Bella the boss then she has them for free and that activates the glitch and corruptes your file right/