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[Trooper04]

lilevilboy wrote...

Trooper04 wrote...

lilevilboy wrote...

I Pre-Ordered my N7 Edition long ago, like June last year. I can't wait for it. However one gripe I do have is can we as paying Premium Edition Consumers not get access to DLC's either at reduced prices or get download tokens as a reward for our support of going for a better version. Take into account with Mass Effect 2, The Standard Edition comes with Cerebrus Network access, and thus all the applicable free DLC's, yet I had bought a Collector's Edition at Double the standard's launch price and this is with discount I must add, and yet I do not get any real benefit's in terms of content for my outlay? Hopefully somone at BioWare - you guys are doing very interesting things btw and thanx for your years of good games - would take an eye over my querry and maybe we could have some more benefits to the N7 Edition to really enjoy it to the max.

Now all I must do is wait here in South Africa for Launch Day I want to shoot at Reaper's 'till it becomes illegal to do so...

Face the fact. The contents within the Collector's Edition is what you'll get. "What you see is what you get." 
There will be no special benefit--except for the Extra Character and Mission DLC--for purchasing the CE. You payed $20 extra for the exclusive DLC, Artbook, Soundtrack, N7 patch, and Litograph. That's between $40 to $50 in extra stuff, but you only payed $20 for it. 

Now unless there was a Season's Pass...well that's a different topic. 

I am South African, US Dollar has no meaning for me - Except an exchange rate of $1 = R8.00...LOLSWORTHY...To me R8.00 is a bread - living in RSA is expensive. The RRP of the N7 Edition in RSA is around R400.00 / R8.00 per $ = $50, BioWare points is R79.00 per 800 points, with R79.00 that's a weeks bread...and I love games and BioWare, but it's too expensive if you buy something that's supposed to be Limited and special, but you don't really get the full experience unless you lay out more money thereafter - the price I have a problem with not the concept of paying for more, and improved content.

Since you love videogames and Bioware, ever thought of moving to America? 
Your gaming life will be a whole lot easier in America.

Modifié par Trooper04, 23 février 2012 - 05:46 .

[StableZaner]

This is bloody ridiculous. What is going on Bioware are you losing it?

http://petition.masseffect.com/

[Demigod]

I really dont see the problem with this. Planned as extra for CE and as paid download. You dont need it for the main game. You may want it, and you may feel it is integral which is amazing as we dont even know how much it adds, but it is still and extra.

Its not as if this is even surprising they have done this in every game since DA:O. I have a pre order for the CE (lucky me ordered it last june) But i had extra set aside incase a day one dlc was released that wasnt in the CE. I know not everyone can do that but not having this dlc wont stop you from playing the game, and when you do have the extra $10 or what ever they charge for it you can play again.

THe game doesnt need it. Its not like assasins creed 2 when they cut out two chapters of the main story, which made it rather confusing jumping from chapter eleven to fourteen, its an extra its not taking anything from you its giving you more.

Argue about price all you want Bethesda and CDproject have them beat one price to content ratio in the past, but this is a hell of a lot better value than any activation dlc,(imho ofcourse.) and it better than the Batman ac costume packs thats for sure.

The game isn't even out yet, we don't know how much or what it really adds apart from a gun and some costumes. Hell you may not even like it, the voice leaked in the pc demo has been getting some rather choice reactions.

[Stigweird85]

I don't like day 1 DLC, unless you get a code included in the box to get it. Mass Effect 2 Cerberus network was a good example.
However premium day 1 DLC does stink a little bit. I wouldn't be buying it but as it's included in CE it's no different than pre-order bonus to me

[Stigweird85]

Okay, I'm seriously concerned about my CE edition again.

GAME sole supplier in the UK, they have had financial troubles recently but did sort out agreements with lenders. However now they just cancelled all their preorders for the last guardian.

I don't like Game and won't miss them when(not if) they go but if I don't get my CE, I will be seriously pissed

[Trooper04]

 

I personally defend BIOWARE in this matter.
Look at the image above. It states that the, Mass Effect 3 N7►Collector's Edition WILL include a Bonus Mission and Character. This image has been out around JUNE of 2011. For those who are complaining that its a Day 1 DLC and cost $10, its pretty much their fault. BIOWARE did state that there was going to be a LIMITED amount of Collector's Edition. 

I did not know there was a Collector's Edition of Mass Effect 3 until January of 2012. I found out about it, did some online searching for this game, and came across this forums. Then when I read that GameStop was out of Pre-Ordering counts, I went to Amazon secured my copy.

Ultimately, those gamers who are complaining about, From Ashes SHOULD HAVE DONE THEIR HOMEWORK by either doing the following:

• Have an account here on www.Social.Bioware.com to receive news on BIOWARE products
• Have at least checked www.MassEffect.com for news and updates
• Have done additional web searching on Mass Effect 3 and the N7► Collector's Edition
• Have "Like" the BIOWARE and Mass Effect 2 Facebook page to receive update news on BIOWARE

Aria T'Loak, Head BOSS, CEO, Queen of Omega said that; "Information is power."

Those who did not seek information are now the one's complaining about the Day 1 DLC release, From Ashes.

[Buri]

You know what's absurd about this? The dlc is not included in the Digital Deluxe edition. And it costs THE SAME THING AS THE COLLECTOR'S EDITION. I'm definitely skipping on this purchase and telling ALL of my friends to do the same.

[Mike Shepard]

Buri wrote...

You know what's absurd about this? The dlc is not included in the Digital Deluxe edition. And it costs THE SAME THING AS THE COLLECTOR'S EDITION. I'm definitely skipping on this purchase and telling ALL of my friends to do the same.

Wait. what? where's your source on this?

And does anyone know if the CE has different discs than the Standard Edition like ME2?

[saregos]

 Dear Bioware:

1 year ago, I was totally in love with you.  Sure, Mass Effect 2 was a rocky period - the removal of many of the role-playing elements I enjoyed in Mass Effect 1 made me doubt your commitment to our relationship.  I was willing to forgive that as a rocky period, though.  I'd played and enjoyed every game you ever made (including Steel Battallion) so had confidence you'd return to form.

Then you relased Dragon Age 2.  It was a decent game, sure, but nowhere near the calibur I had come to expect.  I started to wonder if you still felt the same way about me as I did about you, but I trusted that you were just experimenting with new experiences.

But then, you started being abusive.  You pulled your games from Steam and made ME3 Origin exclusive.  I was, honestly, very hurt by your decision.  Even more so when I realized how overwhelmingly unpolished Origin was.  But... I still had faith.  I installed Origin and pre-ordered Mass Effect 3.

This, though... this is the last straw.  I am not ok, at all, with release-day DLC (especially of this magnitude for a Mass Effect affecionado).  I feel taken advantage of.  There is precisely nothing stopping you from releasing this as free DLC the same way Cerberus Network was, but I see now that you've become too greedy to even consider such a show of loyalty to the fans who have given you so much.

Therefore... I am leaving you and your new boyfriend (EA).  I'll still play Mass Effect 3, as Origin (of course) doesn't provide any avenue for cancelling a pre-order, and honestly I'm not sure if I have that level of willpower.  But rest assured, I won't be buying anything else from you.  This marks the completion of the only franchise of yours I still care about (Dragon Age 2 being, big surprise, a money-grab addon to an already-complete storyline).  And while previously I'd been loyal about buying DLC for your games (having bought all the DLC for both ME2 and Dragon Age, and I think all the DLC for Dragon Age 2 as well) I see now that I'd been sending you the wrong message by doing so.

Goodbye, Bioware.  It's a shame to see someone you cared about so much fall so far.  But you're no longer the company I've loved all these years.

-Saregos

[saregos]

Trooper04 wrote...

►Collector's Edition WILL include a Bonus Mission and Character.

There's a world of difference between "bonus mission and character" (i.e. Zaeed) and "one of the biggest lore events in the universe".

Your argument is, therefore, completely invalid.

[ElementL09]

If you didn't look at the picture, you were mislead a bit on the gamestop page, it doesn't mention any bonus character or mission in the listing of the CE contents.

[Mike Shepard]

saregos wrote...

*SNIP*

if you want to cancel your pre-order, contact EA support and demand they cancel it. Tell them you'll cancel the credit card it's charged to. Make them do it. Get them on the phone and don't give up. Tell them you are disatisfied with their business practices and you want the order cancelled. Otherwise despite that letter you wrote you are still supporting them.

[Trooper04]

saregos wrote...

Trooper04 wrote...

►Collector's Edition WILL include a Bonus Mission and Character.

There's a world of difference between "bonus mission and character" (i.e. Zaeed) and "one of the biggest lore events in the universe".

Your argument is, therefore, completely invalid.

Well Welcome to the year, 2012 were videogame companies are making business with DLC, so deal with it!

Modifié par Trooper04, 23 février 2012 - 09:04 .

[StableZaner]

I became aware of Bioware from playing Knights of the Old Republic. That game is my favourite game of all time, I loved it. The characters, the story and everything. I still pick it up. I follow the lore. And there was never any DLC with it.
I was peeved when I realised that the story of the Ebon Hawk's crew would not be given it's own climatic game like it deserved. Instead the story of Revan was put to a novel and even then it was not wholly completed, for the final ending of his/her story, it went on to the MMO. This is not what the series nor the fans deserve.

Now with Mass Effect, I love the series, I read the books and I replay the games like crazy. I have purchased the past Collector Editions, because I thoroughly enjoy the series. The Mass Effect 3 Collectors Edition, does indeed have groovy items and is pre-ordered by me. But while Bioware has produced games I enjoy immensely it does not mean I am blind to the sudden recent news that is somewhat dodgy and saddening.

The DLC character should be available to every player, regardless of what version of the game they purchase. If it was made prior to launch, it is only fair. Day 1 DLC is frankly, just plain cheeky. If the DLC is already completed, then to ask fans or consumers to purchase it seperately from the game they've just given their money to, it is insulting, rude and unloyal. People say the character isn't integral to the plot or the gameplay, which fair enough. But it's hard to get that message across given the roots of this galactic tale and the species of the DLC character.

The copies being sent into 'space', the petition for alien approval...all this stuff is silly. Yes we're not forced to get involved in any of it, but it doesn't mean people, ESPECIALLY loyal fans can't make their honest opinions known, even if it goes against the developers.

Mass Effect was always going to sell big, I don't know why Bioware are so worried that the latter wouldn't happen. But the alien petition thing is irrelevant to the game and some sort of agenda or gimmick that ha come out of nowhere and serves no purpose.

Like I said I thank Bioware for what it has given us, but at the end of the day we who keep up with Bioware still pay for everything. The N7 edition does not contain anything FREE, we're paying for it all. We're allowed to be peeved on behalf of those that are getting shafted.

[Insaner Robot]

JakeMacDon wrote...

Somewhere, North America, 11:48AM
Bioware Motors, Canada

Dealer: Good afternoon, sir! Welcome to Bioware Motors.

Patron1: Yeah, thanks. Whatchagot?

Dealer: Our latest model, sir - the ME3 Turbo SE. Just delivered from the factory a week ago.

Patron1: Oh, yeah? What's it got? Looks sporty.

Dealer: For only 60, you get all the standard equipment, plus AC, a 3-CD player, faux leather interior, computer-controlled braking system, an onboard GPS and a computer-assisted gasoline monitor that helps you save money. It can use all three gasoline types with equal efficiency. It comes with bucket seats, and can be equipped as a standard or automatic, and is backed by our warranty assuring future upgrades, for a small fee.

Patron1: That's pretty sweet. Not bad. I do believe I'll take it.

Dealer: Thank you, sir, I...

Patron2: Hey there, Patron1! I see you're just about to buy the ME3 Turbo SE.

Patron1: Yup. It's pretty nice. Sporty. I bought the 2007 model and the 2009 one. I like this series.

Patron2: I agree, I did too, that's why I went for the Me3 HyperLX this time. It's got everything yours has, except it has real leather heated seats, 12 CD -Changer in the upholstered trunk, full surround sound and full ABS. It can also use diesel and cooking grease to power it, with the option to upgrade to full hydrocell in the future! It also has a skid control built in and full power steering. It also comes in Hyperblack, which only the LX has. A bit steep, over 90 to get it, but I think it was worth it. Had it all installed today, too. Sweet, huh?

Patron1: WTF!? Hey, dealer, you piece of crap - how come he gets extras? Huh? You lying scum - what the hell are you trying to pull?!?

Dealer: I don't understand the problem, sir?

Patron1: Look, technically they're the same car, aren't they? Same chassis, same engine, same wheels?

Dealer: With minor differences, technically, yes.

Patron1: That's what I thought! But he gets all the extras?

Dealer: Well, it is the luxury edition, sir. However, for 10 more we can include...

Patron1: Oh, no, you don't, you damned con artist! If these two cars were technically identical when they were designed, then I want all those extras for free! I bought the last two cars in this series! I'm entitled!

Dealer: Uh... sorry...?

Patron2: How do you figure that you're entitled to a luxury edition when you were ready to buy the standard? That makes no sense. It never included the extras because it's the standard edition.

Patron1: Look, ******! They're the same car! At some point, a designer made the decision that all those extras could be installed onto the same body and the only real difference is the name! I deserve those extras because I bought the same car! The same, the same, the same! Just because they're pandering to you rich basturds doesn't mean I shouldn't have it too! FFS! And you should kiss my a ss and offer me something just for me for the privilege of me buying one of your cars in the first place! And kiss my a ss!

Dealer: Uh... you bought the standard edition. We can install those extras are only 10 more...

Patron1: I don't care if they're five or one or a hundred more! I deserve them free because I bought the same car he did technically! Free because I bought two cars here before! That proves I deserve it! I say I do so I do!

Patron2: I don't think so. Listen to yourself.

Patron1: Aha! You just screwing me then? Rip off! Gyp! Thievery! Injustice! Unfettered greedy capitalism! It so figures! That all you do to the beaten down guy who can barely afford a big screen tv and two consoles and a computer! And you said it was afternoon, when technically it's not noon yet! Conspiracy! Lies everywhere! I'm cancelling my car payment and going to the Bethesda Auto because even if their cars tend to stall they're nicer than you... and another thing... boobs in Witcher motors - superior!.....

Dealer: Wow.

Patron2: Lack of thorazine in his diet, from the looks of it...

Taken from the general discussion board, From Ashes thread.

[digby69]

this is just getting boring

[Pyro1099]

StableZaner wrote...

I became aware of Bioware from playing Knights of the Old Republic. That game is my favourite game of all time, I loved it. The characters, the story and everything. I still pick it up. I follow the lore. And there was never any DLC with it.
I was peeved when I realised that the story of the Ebon Hawk's crew would not be given it's own climatic game like it deserved. Instead the story of Revan was put to a novel and even then it was not wholly completed, for the final ending of his/her story, it went on to the MMO. This is not what the series nor the fans deserve.

Now with Mass Effect, I love the series, I read the books and I replay the games like crazy. I have purchased the past Collector Editions, because I thoroughly enjoy the series. The Mass Effect 3 Collectors Edition, does indeed have groovy items and is pre-ordered by me. But while Bioware has produced games I enjoy immensely it does not mean I am blind to the sudden recent news that is somewhat dodgy and saddening.

The DLC character should be available to every player, regardless of what version of the game they purchase. If it was made prior to launch, it is only fair. Day 1 DLC is frankly, just plain cheeky. If the DLC is already completed, then to ask fans or consumers to purchase it seperately from the game they've just given their money to, it is insulting, rude and unloyal. People say the character isn't integral to the plot or the gameplay, which fair enough. But it's hard to get that message across given the roots of this galactic tale and the species of the DLC character.

The copies being sent into 'space', the petition for alien approval...all this stuff is silly. Yes we're not forced to get involved in any of it, but it doesn't mean people, ESPECIALLY loyal fans can't make their honest opinions known, even if it goes against the developers.

Mass Effect was always going to sell big, I don't know why Bioware are so worried that the latter wouldn't happen. But the alien petition thing is irrelevant to the game and some sort of agenda or gimmick that ha come out of nowhere and serves no purpose.

Like I said I thank Bioware for what it has given us, but at the end of the day we who keep up with Bioware still pay for everything. The N7 edition does not contain anything FREE, we're paying for it all. We're allowed to be peeved on behalf of those that are getting shafted.

Actually KOTOR did have DLC. A merchant space station location was added. No idea what it was called.

[StableZaner]

Was that exactly DLC. The Yavin station?

[Pyro1099]

Yeah, the Yavin station. You needed XBL to get it, so yeah it was DLC. I never played it though, I didn't have Live back then just the console.

[Icematt12]

Regarding Game in UK, yes they are having financial problems but it looks like they are only having issues with obtaining games from Nintendo and Ubisoft. Maybe Game cannot find an agreement with these. Games from EA currently look safe, so I'm not panicing or rushing to another retailer just yet.

[Trooper04]

An explanation to day 1 DLC.

 

[Pyro1099]

Don't get me started on Game. I officially hate them. They get sole rights to sell ME3 CE in the UK and they don't even get enough copies to supply demand. I have been trying to get the game for weeks now and I can't find it. Game no longer show it on their site and stores no longer accept pre-orders. Everyone else only sells the standard edition of ME3.

[Gnarlesee]

Are they trying to make people buy standard edition for COOP. and then Pirate the game to get all the stuff they wanna take out of the game to sell later DLC?

Its freaking ridicilous, people will pirate the DLC like never seen before, because of this. Later DLC is fine, but selling DLC on release day. What the hell.

[Gnarlesee]

Trooper04 wrote...

An explanation to day 1 DLC.

 

Of course they could not make this a 1 day free download DLC for people who fx play their coop for 10 hours or more. As an intro offer. They already set the price and everything.

I understand its a company, and it is about making money. But comeon, try a little less to make us look like money milking machine.

[DarkDoz]

12 more days then I hope to see my order ME3 CE in my mail box from Amazon
Until then SWTOR level 50 Scoundrel and loving it.