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[clopin]

ME-ParaShep wrote...

I think 8 or 9 would be the optimal number(s) because there is variety, but there will most likely be 10, however it's still a good thing that there's a pretty big number of squad member choices because it adds to diversity and replayability, yet there's also room for deepening the bond and relationships between your squad because ME 3 will be as big as ME 2 or slightly bigger (as stated by Bioware in one of threads where there were confirmations of features). Although I also like the idea of having squad members from ME 2 like Mordin being a non combatant. His role in the Suicide Mission was frankly wasted. His type of character is there to support the story growth and to be a NPC to chat with.

I picture the squad make up to be this:

Liara, Tali, Garrus, Sanders, Ashley or Kaidan, Grunt, Jack, Miranda, Jacob, and Thane

I believe all of the LI's from Mass Effect 1 and 2 would be in your squad. Otherwise it wouldn't make sense as to why you would put up the effort to "fall in love" with him/her in the first place. Also, Bioware did mention that romance's in ME 3 will be the fulfillment of everything that you have done with your mate throughout the previous game(s). Therefore every LI squad member from the previous games should be in ME 3 as a squad mateto "go full circle" with the relationship. Which is why I stated the above team setup to be that way.

This post is missing a substantial amount of Wrex.

[Fusiox]

TurtlesAWD wrote...

Thane's dying, but not in a way that cripples him. Mordin's so old you could say the same about him, though. But I don't care if he can't be a combat squadmate, I just want to keep him on my normandy and make him sing.

Now, now, that's just cruel.

You could technically say that all the other squaddies are still part of your "squad." They're just out on official business: Wrex rounding up all the Krogan, Mordin rounding up the STG (or that fabled 13th League of One member, which I would love to see), Zaeed finally getting revenge on his old-buddy-bud-bud and taking the Blue Suns for himself (hope you were nice to him!), Jack getting an... I don't know, a biotic cult? Perhaps Samara gets the Justicars involved, even.

In any case, all this talk is only making me more anxious for ME3. Oh, 2012, how I long to see thee! That is, if we survive October 21st.

[Aloren]

There has to be "a lot" of temporary squadmates. Think about it: I think Casey Hudson said that they added "a bunch" of new squadmates (I think it was on the GTTV demo). "a bunch" sounds like at least 3 to me... so, if we have less than 12 guys, let's say 10, including Liara and the VS, and 3 new ones, that leaves us with about 5 returning ME2 squadmates out of 12. Of course with cameos from the others, but still... 5/12 would probably make a lot of people unhappy...

[jellmoo32]

Iwantobelieve wrote...

Romances are just as casual as shooting, vehicle combat, ammo management...
Maybe I over reacted sayin I'd like to delete them, but I think they are a very over rated part of gameplay in which folks focus too much in.
Wake up, Romances are supposed to be a "bonus content" rather than "most popular feature".
Even asked yourselves why Bioware series with so popular with girls more than Bethesda and co ?
I don't want ME to be a fan-service-space-opera-interactive-romance-film. ( No offense ladies).

They are "supposed to be" bonus content instead of the most popular feature? Says who? You? They are one part of the game, and they receive so much attention simply due to the nature of being static elements. They are story elements that have a very finite set of variables which makes them much easier to pull apart and discuss. People get into them because they are one of the strongest elements of role playing in the series. You are taking on the role of Commander Shepard. A hero with an impossible task. What offers more opportunity to get into that role in the series than having the option to cultivate relationships with the crew?

No, I never asked why BioWare games are popular with girls. I've simply accepted it as a great thing that BioWare has a better track record than most when it comes to producing titles that appeal to a wider audience. 

You might not want a "space opera film" but a whooooole lot of people do. Many people love the cinematic quality that Mass Effect brings. That element that reminds us of things like Star Wars (which had a strong element of romance coupled with action) is a key selling point to many, many people.

[Eshaye]

Iwantobelieve wrote...

Romances are just as casual as shooting, vehicle combat, ammo management...
Maybe I over reacted sayin I'd like to delete them, but I think they are a very over rated part of gameplay in which folks focus too much in.
Wake up, Romances are supposed to be a "bonus content" rather than "most popular feature".
Even asked yourselves why Bioware series with so popular with girls more than Bethesda and co ?
I don't want ME to be a fan-service-space-opera-interactive-romance-film. ( No offense ladies).

Wake up this is a BioWare title, why do you think BW has more prestige then Bethesda ever will? You say Bethesda and people go: Yeah those are good RPGs, You say BioWare and people go: YEAH those are GREAT RPGs. 

It must be because of the superior pew pew and gameplay..... STORY telling is the key and is everything that makes BioWare fantastic and STAND APART, everything else comes after. Get with the program and insult the female fan base more if you please, you don't know what I play. 

(I play a lot of games...You'll find many of us who frequent these boards are also in the Bethesda community and many others besides.)

Modifié par Eshaye, 08 juin 2011 - 05:09 .

[alperez]

Iwantobelieve wrote...

Romances are just as casual as shooting, vehicle combat, ammo management...
Maybe I over reacted sayin I'd like to delete them, but I think they are a very over rated part of gameplay in which folks focus too much in.
Wake up, Romances are supposed to be a "bonus content" rather than "most popular feature".
Even asked yourselves why Bioware series with so popular with girls more than Bethesda and co ?
I don't want ME to be a fan-service-space-opera-interactive-romance-film. ( No offense ladies).

So many wrong things in one post, but to compare romance arcs in an rpg with shooting,vehicle combat and ammo management shows just how far off you really are.

The key aspect in any rpg is the storyline and the path that the protagonist takes to get to the end, this is told in a series of events and how you deal with them and in how your character responds and gets along or doesn't with other characters in the rpg. A large part of this certainly in bioware games is done using the romance arc which is one reason why biowares repuatation is better than other rpg gamemakers.

No one here is suggesting that the romance part of the story is the most popular feature nor has anyone ever suggested this to my knowledge but to suggest its just bonus content is so far off the mark you seem to be playing a completely different genre.

As for a fan service space opera interactive romance film as you put it, well mass effect is most of these things already (the film part withstanding). Its been a space opera from the very beginning, its interactive and the romance arcs are there so which game have you been playing all this time?

I get you don't like the romance arcs, you personally don't feel they are an important part of the experience and as i've said good for you thats your perogative. But just because you personally don't like them doesn't give you leeway to arbitrarily dismiss them as non important to other peoples enjoyment of mass effect.

At times you sound a tad like the turian councillor, (Romances ah yes we have dismissed that claim) maybe thats been your intention all along, or maybe you've just misquoted yourself and came across wrong.

Modifié par alperez, 08 juin 2011 - 11:57 .

[Banzboy]

I doubt miranda will have a big role in ME3. My guess is a side mission or part of a main mission.

[ME-ParaShep]

clopin wrote...

ME-ParaShep wrote...

I think 8 or 9 would be the optimal number(s) because there is variety, but there will most likely be 10, however it's still a good thing that there's a pretty big number of squad member choices because it adds to diversity and replayability, yet there's also room for deepening the bond and relationships between your squad because ME 3 will be as big as ME 2 or slightly bigger (as stated by Bioware in one of threads where there were confirmations of features). Although I also like the idea of having squad members from ME 2 like Mordin being a non combatant. His role in the Suicide Mission was frankly wasted. His type of character is there to support the story growth and to be a NPC to chat with.

I picture the squad make up to be this:

Liara, Tali, Garrus, Sanders, Ashley or Kaidan, Grunt, Jack, Miranda, Jacob, and Thane

I believe all of the LI's from Mass Effect 1 and 2 would be in your squad. Otherwise it wouldn't make sense as to why you would put up the effort to "fall in love" with him/her in the first place. Also, Bioware did mention that romance's in ME 3 will be the fulfillment of everything that you have done with your mate throughout the previous game(s). Therefore every LI squad member from the previous games should be in ME 3 as a squad mate to "go full circle" with the relationship. Which is why I stated the above team setup to be that way.

This post is missing a substantial amount of Wrex.

I want Wrex too but.. he has more important things to do rather than go star system hopping with us like the old days. He's too occupied with the advancement of the Krogan race to fight with us. I do hear rumors that he'll be a temporary squad-mate at least. Let's keep our hopes up for that at least. If there's going to be a squad makeup where there are 2 Krogans present, (Grunt AND Wrex) then damn that would be kick ass! 2 Krogans would rape.. literally 

[alperez]

Banzboy wrote...

I doubt miranda will have a big role in ME3. My guess is a side mission or part of a main mission.

I had hoped E3 would prove my fear on this groundless but its beginning to worry me that this could be true.

The funny thing is as excited as i am about the return of characters from me1 i feel the game will suffer if some of the me2 specific characters don't return as full squadmates. Me2 because of arrival looks pointless (apart from a couple of setups which we could all see coming from me1 anyway) if there are no me2 specific characters returning in me3 then it becomes even more pointless and i'm not sure if people will forgive bioware for that.

My hope was that Miranda as one of the most popular me2 squaddies would return as a full squadmate and that would increase the chances for others and help make me2 become actually that much more important overall, at the moment though i fear the opposite will be true.