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Its marketing, nothing more.

Yes, most of us have played ME1 and 2, so we are all aware of the "ME Galaxy" and all the inhabitants, and the importance and roles of each, so "saving the galaxy" means more to us.

But, for those who havent played ME, they dont have that knowledge, so "saving the galaxy" doesnt carry as much weight. Whereas "Saving the Earth" has an immediate reaction that anybody can associate with.

Besides, you all know you are going to get ME3 anyway, and i highly doubt their marketing campaign will sway your opinion on it once youve played it.

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Black Raptor wrote...

Omg

Why don't you people just wait until you've played the game before deeming it to un-epic because you've only seen the Reapers attack earth in 2 trailers.


Because Bioware and EA are both marketing the game as the fight to save Earth?  We know that Reapers are attacking other worlds, but it's the fact that Bioware is making Earth seem like something so special that the Reapers want to concentrate all their efforts on it and the fact that Earth is being put foward as the main storyline that really kills all hype.

Who buys games whose trailers disappointed them?  I hate it when people say "Oh but it's just a trailer!  The actual movie/game is actually much better!"  Really?  What the heck do you think the point of a trailer is?  It's to make people want to see/play their movie/game and if this isn't acheived, people aren't going to buy/watch/play something!  Saying that we should still buy and play the game even though we were disappointed with trailers and information given prior to release is really not understanding how advertisement works.

So far, everything they've been telling us leads to a banal "Save Earth" conclusion.  And frankly, this really does disappoint me because I really expected a more epic conclusion, a galaxy-wide fight and not just the fight for one planet.

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ReveurIngenu wrote...

TheChosen wrote...

Like all the races are too eager to tell us in ME1, we're far too arrogant and self-important. This notion is echoed brilliantly by how the story of ME2 and ME3 are being focussed around humans and earth. The theme of equality and that we're all just inhabitant's of the same galaxy, facing the same threat, has truly been lost.


So true.  The more I hear about this game, the more I get turned off.  Yes, the galaxy is being attacked, not just Earth, but marketing it as a game where only Earth is important really just lowers ME3 to a game about saving Earth, with the saving the galaxy as a secondary storyline.

I'm really going to just wait until the game is out and spoil myself, see just how Earth-centric the game is, and depending on that, I'll either pick it up or wait for a price drop.

Really, really disappointed with the whole Human and Earth-centric storyline.  And for those who want to say "but we know other planets are being attacked too, it's not just Earth, yada yada yada."  I say this - Maybe, but marketing the game as the fight to take back Earth and not the fight to save the galaxy, not the fight to destroy the Reapers, but just the damn fight to save Earth means that Earth will most likely take up most of the spotlight in the game rather than a galactic fight.  To me, this makes it an Earth-centric storyline.  And that is a total disappointment.


I got called out by a moderator for being a potential troll for saying the exact same thing. I am immensely disappointed, and I'm tired of the apologists who keep claiming that it isn't Earth centric. It sure is! Yea, i get to save the boring blue planet I live on. AGAIN, I get to witness that. If Earth is sacrificed, that would be gravy. In fact, i wish I could just let the Reapers annihilate and mutilate Earth in the beginning so I wouldnt have to see it the rest of the game.

This no longer feels like Mass Effect. Realizing my worst fears, it has now turned into a full fledged shooter with very mild rpg elements outside of story. I won't say more than that. I'm brutally disappointed. But this is my OPINION.

Modifié par sympathy4saren, 06 juin 2011 - 09:36 .


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Walker White wrote...

Humans are the only race to ever hurt the reapers. They are the obvious first target. The reapers can clean up everyone else when they are done. It would be stupid for them to start anywhere else.

Humans are not the only race to ever hurt the Reapers. They are the latest. The Reapers are after Humans and Earth because they posses the right genetic material to construct another Reaper. There are more than a few species in the galaxy that are far superior to Humans.

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So because Earth gets a bit more focus in the trailers setting the stage for what's at stake, etc and us already KNOWING that the entire Galaxy is at stake from ME1/ME2, you still are going to go the negative outlook route? Reveur, all due respect to your opinions, but you're really sounding like the guy crying wolf for no reason here :(

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neubourn wrote...

Its marketing, nothing more.

Yes, most of us have played ME1 and 2, so we are all aware of the "ME Galaxy" and all the inhabitants, and the importance and roles of each, so "saving the galaxy" means more to us.

But, for those who havent played ME, they dont have that knowledge, so "saving the galaxy" doesnt carry as much weight. Whereas "Saving the Earth" has an immediate reaction that anybody can associate with.

Besides, you all know you are going to get ME3 anyway, and i highly doubt their marketing campaign will sway your opinion on it once youve played it.


I fail to see how saving the Earth for the millionth time (be it in a movie, in a game, in a book, etc) is more appealing than saving a whole galaxy.  Are people really craving some more "Save the Earth" scenarios?  People really are not saturated with such storylines? 

I guess I must be one of the rare ones sick to death of such an overused storyline.  And I for one am get turned off not attracted to a game marketed as such.

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The rest of the Galaxy has been saved for the most part, but not Earth because the want humans to make another reaper that will destroy the galaxy. Save Earth, stop new reaper, stop reapers.

Plus its Earth, we got the Big Apple, Illium's got noting but Asari, which the only good one is Liara, and she's already at my side.

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Haha Kabanya :) Not quite a good defense of the trailer focus, but still entertaining.

Honestly, I do get why people are worrying it's TOO Earth focused, but any of us playing ME1/ME2 know this will be more then just Earth with the caveat that Earth is the final destination given both it's importance to Shep AND the Reaper's intense interest in humanity.

Seriously, I'd eat my hat, kiss random people and frankly become a nun if the game ended up being as Earth centric as people are worrying about xD

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Kakistos_ wrote...

There are more than a few species in the galaxy that are far superior to Humans.


Such as?

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Walker White wrote...

Kakistos_ wrote...

There are more than a few species in the galaxy that are far superior to Humans.


Such as?

The Asari, Turians, Salarians, Rachni, Geth and other species that have been part of galactic society before humans.

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Perhaps the Reapers plan is to focus their efforts on destroying Earth as quickly as possible. Maybe there's something on Earth or in our solar system they want or need that could help them in cleansing the rest of the galaxy.

Shepard will have to rally the other races to concentrate their efforts on stopping the Reapers at Earth. It makes sense.

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I have absolutely no idea why the marketing department thinks "saving Earth" sounds cooler than "saving the galaxy". Seriously, think about it for a second.

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Because humanity is "special" in Mass Effect.

Even if I haven't seen any evidence of this.

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The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

I think it's meant to hit closer to home.



^ This. And we also know that we'll be fighting the reapers off in other systems as well but the ultimate goal is to take back Earth not say take back Palvin and call the galaxy saved they as Anderson said must be driven back into darkspace and they can only get that done if reapers are gone from all corners Earth included.

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Shepard Lives wrote...

I have absolutely no idea why the marketing department thinks "saving Earth" sounds cooler than "saving the galaxy". Seriously, think about it for a second.

The goal of the game is to save Earth.

From what we've seen, it seems that in order to save Earth, you must first save the galaxy.

I don't see why you are so butthurt.

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100k wrote...

Because that's probably one of the biggest decisions in the game. Earth or the Galaxy?


It better not be.  They can keep their damned game if it is.  It would also kind of trash the ME universe for future use after ME3, which some noises have been made about.

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Destroy Raiden wrote...

The Big Bad Wolf wrote...

I think it's meant to hit closer to home.



^ This. And we also know that we'll be fighting the reapers off in other systems as well but the ultimate goal is to take back Earth not say take back Palvin and call the galaxy saved they as Anderson said must be driven back into darkspace and they can only get that done if reapers are gone from all corners Earth included.


It's already been confirmed that the Reapers are attacking Palaven and maybe Sur'Kesh.

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The rest of the aliens can go hang. Earth comes first.

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ReveurIngenu wrote...

neubourn wrote...

Its marketing, nothing more.

Yes, most of us have played ME1 and 2, so we are all aware of the "ME Galaxy" and all the inhabitants, and the importance and roles of each, so "saving the galaxy" means more to us.

But, for those who havent played ME, they dont have that knowledge, so "saving the galaxy" doesnt carry as much weight. Whereas "Saving the Earth" has an immediate reaction that anybody can associate with.

Besides, you all know you are going to get ME3 anyway, and i highly doubt their marketing campaign will sway your opinion on it once youve played it.


I fail to see how saving the Earth for the millionth time (be it in a movie, in a game, in a book, etc) is more appealing than saving a whole galaxy.  Are people really craving some more "Save the Earth" scenarios?  People really are not saturated with such storylines? 

I guess I must be one of the rare ones sick to death of such an overused storyline.  And I for one am get turned off not attracted to a game marketed as such.


No, people are not turned off by it.  If they were, such movies, games, and books would not be made.

They are all Heroic Epics.  One of the oldest stories ever told; the very concept is, at some level, part of our psychology.  These stories will never get old.

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crackseed wrote...

Haha Kabanya :) Not quite a good defense of the trailer focus, but still entertaining.

Honestly, I do get why people are worrying it's TOO Earth focused, but any of us playing ME1/ME2 know this will be more then just Earth with the caveat that Earth is the final destination given both it's importance to Shep AND the Reaper's intense interest in humanity.

Seriously, I'd eat my hat, kiss random people and frankly become a nun if the game ended up being as Earth centric as people are worrying about xD


Bioware seems to like to end a game where it begins.  ME1: start out at the Citadel, final fight there.  ME2: start out in the Omega Nebula, launch final mission from there.

So, my guess for ME3 is: start out on Earth, return at the end to liberate it while there's still an Earth left to save.