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Elite Midget wrote...

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Doesn't Canada have harrassment laws?  The US does, both against harrassment and retribution for being a whietleblower - and the US is not nearly as liberal.

That's some pretty serious slander you're slinging against BioWare.  Proof or ST*U.


Screw your laws, I have money and many ways to get you fired without making it look sexist!


Ok, now you're going over the top and breaking my forum immersion...

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also, i wouldnt talk, legion is pretty tightly dressed too, check out his ******.

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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...


Grunt's a krogan. Are you really going to try and tell him he's underdressed? :police:


He should have been romanceable, horney, and in a catsuit.

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Tesla17 wrote...

For the love of all that is holy, Bioware.

LET. US. PUT. OUR. FEMALE. SQADMATES. IN. PROPER. ARMOUR. LEATHER. DOES. NOT. STOP. BULLETS. YOUR. AUDIENCE. IS. NOT. TWELVE. DAMNIT!!!!!!!

Wouldn't go so far to call it leather, probably just an advanced version of this: www.bodyarmornews.com/bullet-proof-vest.htm

btw: "Combat hard-suits
use a dual-layer system to protect the wearer. The inner layer consists of fabric armor with kinetic padding. Areas that don't need to be flexible, such as the chest or shins, are reinforced with sheets of lightweight ablative ceramic.

The outer layer consists of automatically-generated
kinetic barriers. Objects traveling above a certain speed will trigger the barrier's reflex system and be deflected, provided there is enough energy left in the shield's power cell"
Source: masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Kinetic_barrier#Body_Armor

Modifié par Oblivious, 07 juin 2011 - 03:43 .


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Elite Midget wrote...

Pax of Doom wrote...
Doesn't Canada have harrassment laws?  The US does, both against harrassment and retribution for being a whietleblower - and the US is not nearly as liberal.

That's some pretty serious slander you're slinging against BioWare.  Proof or ST*U.


Screw your laws, I have money and many ways to get you fired without making it look sexist!



You've been warned. Elite Midgets are not to be trifled with.

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Elite Midget wrote...

Pax of Doom wrote...
Doesn't Canada have harrassment laws?  The US does, both against harrassment and retribution for being a whietleblower - and the US is not nearly as liberal.

That's some pretty serious slander you're slinging against BioWare.  Proof or ST*U.


Screw your laws, I have money and many ways to get you fired without making it look sexist!

You do realize that stating "screw your laws, I have money" really does expose you for what you really are.
I can't decide if people like you make me sad or make me laugh....

....both actually.

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Elite Midget wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...


Grunt's a krogan. Are you really going to try and tell him he's underdressed? :police:


He should have been romanceable, horney, and in a catsuit.



Well, he does ram Shepard (either sex) up against a wall...


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[quote]Elite Midget wrote...



Screw your laws, I have money and many ways to get you fired without making it look sexist![/quote]

Wha? Cool story. It's a game, calm down.


quote]Clonedzero wrote...

also, i wouldnt talk, legion is pretty tightly dressed too, check out his ******.[/quote]

:lol:

Modifié par MissMaster, 07 juin 2011 - 03:47 .


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Elite Midget wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...


Grunt's a krogan. Are you really going to try and tell him he's underdressed? :police:


He should have been romanceable, horney, and in a catsuit.

That would have been awesome.
Personally I'd have gone for a Wrexmance. but hey.

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MissMaster wrote...

OHMYGOSH!

Dude. It is a game, in space, in the future, with 'reapers'.

It's not going to be realistic take it for what it is, a video game!



Doesn't mean sexism should be promoted.

Would it be okay to make a game about you killing Allah, who is really gay for God, and Jesus is a black woman that's naked  all the timeand wants to have sex with you? No, you don't do stuff like that and for good reason.

People in reality would KILL others if stuff like that happened. It just isn't appropiate and it's wrong.

Modifié par Elite Midget, 07 juin 2011 - 03:46 .


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DoNotIngest wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...


Grunt's a krogan. Are you really going to try and tell him he's underdressed? :police:


He should have been romanceable, horney, and in a catsuit.



Well, he does ram Shepard (either sex) up against a wall...


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And I dont know if its me but it looks like my femshep enjoys that little bit of rough play :whistle:

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MissMaster wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...



Screw your laws, I have money and many ways to get you fired without making it look sexist!


Wha? Cool story.

Elite; FIRE HER SHE'S THE SUXOR!!!!
Miss's employer: You do realize that you can't just demand we fire her right?
Elite: FIRE HER AND I'LL GIVE YOU MONIES!!!!
Employer: It's okay it's okay we'll just call the nice doctors and we'll get you help.
Elite: RARGH ARGH RARRRRR *gets taken in for treatment*
Miss: Can you believe that idiot?

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Elite Midget wrote...

Would it be okay to alsp make a game about you killing Allah and Jesus is a black woman that's naked and wants to have sex with you?




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FutureBoy81 wrote...

sex sells get over it


So can I get Spartan Armor now for Sheploo?

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I just want the Reapers to know when then face Shepard and any other real men on the team we don't need to wear any sissy pants armor. We are afraid of nothing! Your numbers may darken the sky of every world Harbinger! But my abs can deflect bullets.

:whistle:

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Elite Midget wrote...

MissMaster wrote...

OHMYGOSH!

Dude. It is a game, in space, in the future, with 'reapers'.

It's not going to be realistic take it for what it is, a video game!



Doesn't mean sexism should be promoted.

Would it be okay to make a game about you killing Allah, who is really gay for God, and Jesus is a black woman that's naked  all the timeand wants to have sex with you? No, you don't do stuff like that and for good reason.

People in reality would KILL others if stuff like that happened. It just isn't appropiate and it's wrong.

Give ita f*cking rest.
And yes freedom of speech and expression would mean that it would indeed be okay to make such a game.

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Clonedzero wrote...

Tesla17 wrote...

For the love of all that is holy, Bioware.

LET. US. PUT. OUR. FEMALE. SQADMATES. IN. PROPER. ARMOUR. LEATHER. DOES. NOT. STOP. BULLETS. YOUR. AUDIENCE. IS. NOT. TWELVE. DAMNIT!!!!!!!

neither does popped collars on long coats, or skin tight outfits with weird squad shoulderpad thingers. or lab coats.

but they're males right? so its not unacceptable?


Right, we're on the same side here, so lets be condescending to one another, brilliant.

Look, that's exactly what I meant. You might think that I'm one of these overzealous muckraker of woman's rights and sexism, but I don't think that's the real issue here. The real issue is how ****ed not just the cannon, but the entire logic of the series has become wherein leather and sunglasses are a suitable replacement for body armour.

So before you get snooty, do try and refrain from getting hostile at the slightest instant.

Also, to the guy who says it's immature to type in all caps: Get off your high horse. I know we're all pumped up on adrenaline here; it's been a superb day of typing on the internet. But I must insist. It isn't necessary that every post conforms to the throws of standard written english in the most boring format possible. I tried something different with my post. I did it to indicate the entire fanbase's reiteration of this same point over and over. One that Bioware might not have listened to. (It's unclear whether this is her informal gear, but then why is the guy next to her all decked out)

Okay then, are we all happy now?

No?

Can't fault me for trying.

Edit: Thirteen seconds later and I suddenly realize the hypocrisy (man that word's getting around here) in this post. I advise all to skip it and move on with your merry lives.

Modifié par Tesla17, 07 juin 2011 - 03:53 .


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Elite Midget wrote...

Doesn't mean sexism should be promoted.

Would it be okay to make a game about you killing Allah, who is really gay for God, and Jesus is a black woman that's naked  all the timeand wants to have sex with you? No, you don't do stuff like that and for good reason.

People in reality would KILL others if stuff like that happened. It just isn't appropiate and it's wrong.


LOL!  Hold on. Ash in a cat suit is not even near that!

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Em23 wrote...

It's a game I care about and having guys talk like the only thing that matters in a women is how sexy she is as if that's all she's good for hits way too close to home.


A jest is just a jest. I cannot defend what other people have posted in this thread, for that is the responsibility of their respective authors. All I can say is that I meant nothing in what I posted other than to lighten the mood.

Em23 wrote...
That is not an attitude that leads to healthy relationships I can assure you. One of the reasons I liked Ash in me1 so much was that she was a main respected female npc who wasn't at all sexualised and could hold her own. That Ashley would never care more about making sure she looks hot for shep than staying alive in combat.

Like it or not, this kind of thing is a comment about the role of women in society which I don't like.
Sorry if i'm being too heavy but I just can't be light-hearted about comments like that.

OT I would expect this from Miranda but this seems contrary to her character.


I liked Ashley in ME1 too. She was a strong, independent character who did her own thing and radiated a certain distinct aura of respect and equality. In a word, she was interesting. Personally, it interested me very little that she looks "sexy" in her Mass Effect 3 incarnation, hence a distinct lack of serious comments from me on the matter.

What interested me more was why she looks sexy, hence the far greater effort I've put into seriously theorising the scenarios at which this could come about. Sexy for sexy's sake does not interest me; I actually seriously think there is a decent story potential to be had here - an exploration into the character's history, changing motivations and priorities, and the new self-presentation being merely a hint and reflection of that. My call for Bioware developers to take notes from what I posted was only partially joking.

Issues of women's role in real life society is well beyond the scope of my posts. I'm just here to discuss a game.

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Elite Midget wrote...

Would it be okay to make a game about you killing Allah, who is really gay for God, and Jesus is a black woman that's naked  all the timeand wants to have sex with you?


Not gonna lie, that sounds like a pretty awesome game, true story.

If you can deal with the soul-wrenching guilt that I'm sure would afflct you, you should pitch that idea somewhere. Like, not here.

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MissMaster wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

Doesn't mean sexism should be promoted.

Would it be okay to make a game about you killing Allah, who is really gay for God, and Jesus is a black woman that's naked  all the timeand wants to have sex with you? No, you don't do stuff like that and for good reason.

People in reality would KILL others if stuff like that happened. It just isn't appropiate and it's wrong.


LOL!  Hold on. Ash in a cat suit is not even near that!



I'd buy this game just to ****** off moral guardians.

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theelementslayer wrote...

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Elite Midget wrote...


He should have been romanceable, horney, and in a catsuit.



Well, he does ram Shepard (either sex) up against a wall...


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And I dont know if its me but it looks like my femshep enjoys that little bit of rough play :whistle:



Bet they don't teach that version of Push in biotics class.    Or that version of Barrier... :innocent:

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"Spectres play fast and loose with the law." -Gianna Parasini

Remember that quote (I believe I have it right and correctly attributed, but I could always be wrong.  Seems to happen)? Perhaps becoming a Spectre redefined how Ashley approaches not only her work but also her lifestyle. Perhaps seeing Shepard doing "good" things with Cerberus (eliminating Collectors) rattled her cage a bit and made her reconsider her "good path or no path" and those changes are reflected when she attains Spectre status. For all we know, her performance holding together Horizon was a Spectre test. Or perhaps her first Spectre mission changed her view on a lot of things when it went bad, making her reconsider her more "rigid" or strict militaristic doctrine...growing more into the "agent" role that most Spectres seem to embody.

I'm not going to comment whether I like the aesthetic changes or not because I don't know, but it doesn't come to me as a shock that Ashley underwent some changes between games.  Either way, everyone here is overreacting.

Elite Midget wrote...

Would it be okay to make a game
about you killing Allah, who is really gay for God, and Jesus is a black
woman that's naked  all the timeand wants to have sex with you? No, you
don't do stuff like that and for good reason.

People in reality would KILL others if stuff like that happened. It just isn't appropiate and it's wrong.


I hope you realize that this is logically impossible.  Allah is God.  It is impossible for God to be gay for himself.  And the characterization of Jesus as "someone who wants to have sex with you" is completely incorrect beyond your characterization of Christ.  Hypothetically, even if Christ were a black woman (incorrect given the gospel's depiction of Christ), Christ would not be submitting to lustful desires, which are sinful.  Christ is not only the Son of God, but is also God, therefore Christ is also wholly holy and not privy to the sins humans are.

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Elite Midget wrote...

Doesn't mean sexism should be promoted.

Would it be okay to make a game about you killing Allah, who is really gay for God, and Jesus is a black woman that's naked  all the timeand wants to have sex with you? No, you don't do stuff like that and for good reason.

People in reality would KILL others if stuff like that happened. It just isn't appropiate and it's wrong.


Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

I'd buy this game just to ****** off moral guardians.


I would only buy it if it was titled 'Black Lady Jesus.'

LOL:O

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Give ita f*cking rest.
And yes freedom of speech and expression would mean that it would indeed be okay to make such a game.


No it wouldn't. They would be sued so hard by the religious fanatics and sent so many death threats they will wish they never even thought of making such a game.