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[Elite Midget]

iakus wrote...

This.

"Look at who I am, Shepard. Do you ever hear me ask for help? It's not like bad things don't happen to me. If you stay with me long enough, maybe I'll tell you about some of them. But I deal with them myself.  I don't need a shoulder to cry on, a knight to rescue me, or a man to make me happy. This is who I am. I like her. And you better like her, too."

What happened to that Ash?

Retcon.

And Bioware doesn't care.

[Pax of Doom]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Thank you Pax of Doom.
I enjoyed that.

LOL glad y'all enjoyed.  The arguments were getting too intense and silly.  Techno Turian to the rescue!

Seriously for a moment, sexism in video games, changing a character/character assassination is something that can and should be debated.  All posters on the topic do have valid points, some more solidly argued (and less hyperbolic) than others.  FWIW, I'll still wait and see, and I hope others will too.

And now, back to our irregularly scheduled lulz:

www.youtube.com/watch

/tra-la-la

[Elite Midget]

No, the only right arguement are from those that know Ashley's backstory and understand why New Ashley is a complete retcon of Old Ashley that many fans fell in love with.

[Ziggy]

Elite Midget wrote...

iakus wrote...

This.

"Look at who I am, Shepard. Do you ever hear me ask for help? It's not like bad things don't happen to me. If you stay with me long enough, maybe I'll tell you about some of them. But I deal with them myself.  I don't need a shoulder to cry on, a knight to rescue me, or a man to make me happy. This is who I am. I like her. And you better like her, too."

What happened to that Ash?

Retcon.

And Bioware doesn't care.

[Phategod1]

I dont see any making a fuss because all Captain Anderson is wearing is some light armor and military Baseball cap.

[Da Mecca]

I am more than prepared to kill Ashley to preserve her image.

Yeah...it gets that serious.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Elite Midget wrote...

No, the only right arguement are from those that know Ashley's backstory and understand why New Ashley is a complete retcon of Old Ashley that many fans fell in love with.

You draw this conclusion from a few pictures and a moment of video.

The game is MONTHS away.
So don't say that new Ashley is A COMPLETE RETCON when you don't know a single detail of her story role.
For someone who hates sexism you seem to be flinging an awful lot of it if you base you're entire schtik on her looks.

Modifié par Grand Admiral Cheesecake, 07 juin 2011 - 04:46 .

[Iakus]

That's cause he's more heavily armored than he was through ME 1 or 2.

[Tony_Knightcrawler]

Damn, she's lookin' good. Maybe I should have saved her instead of... NO! That isn't worth thinking about.

[Elite Midget]

Em23 wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

iakus wrote...

This.

"Look at who I am, Shepard. Do you ever hear me ask for help? It's not like bad things don't happen to me. If you stay with me long enough, maybe I'll tell you about some of them. But I deal with them myself.  I don't need a shoulder to cry on, a knight to rescue me, or a man to make me happy. This is who I am. I like her. And you better like her, too."

What happened to that Ash?

Retcon.

And Bioware doesn't care.

It'll get better. I mean, at least you can go back and kill Ashley off and save Kaiden. That way Ashley will never become the thing she hates most and Kaiden will finally get to wear that Heavy Armor he always wanted in ME1.

[Elite Midget]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

You draw this conclusion from a few pictures and a moment of video.

The game is MONTHS away.
So don't say that new Ashley is A COMPLETE RETCON!!!!!!!!

Same thing said about Miranda and Isabella. You were wrong than and you're wrong now.

[Uhh.. Jonah]

Her armor really doesn't look that different from light armor that was in ME1.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Elite Midget wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

You draw this conclusion from a few pictures and a moment of video.

The game is MONTHS away.
So don't say that new Ashley is A COMPLETE RETCON!!!!!!!!

Same thing said about Miranda and Isabella. You were wrong than and you're wrong now.

You can't Retcon a character that wasn't in the story yet (Miranda)
And Isabela was always trampy.
So......when your argument finds merit make sure you let me know, I'd love to see it.

[Destroy Raiden_]

Anderson was talking to her over the comm for pick up and he called her Lieutenant not spector. Which I'd be happy with if she is a lieutenant and not a spector for 3.

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

So much anger. Wow. NPC armor is srs business.

[Elite Midget]

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

Her armor really doesn't look that different from light armor that was in ME1.

....Really?

Also, she's a Soldier and hates Light armor. It's who she is and she would never agree to turn into a sexed up barbie that needs a white knight in shining armor to save her.

[Mr. MannlyMan]

Elite Midget wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

Nab20 wrote...

Em23 wrote...

What is barely hidden behind that "joke" is that the only thing that matters in a woman is how sexy she is.

People don't hate Ash because she wasn't sexy. They hate her because she's a arrogant racist b*tch. 

Don't forget religious. In other news... so a 20 min trailer tomorrow. Anybody think they'll put our fears to rest and put some "proper" armor on Ashley? I think as long as she zips that thing up it'll work since it doesn't look much thinner than real-life kevlar, but that's just me.

I wont hold my breath. This is Miranda and Isabella all over again. Bioware literally has learned nothing.

True.

And it makes me lol at these people who dismiss that suspicion. Like the religious people who say "Just because you don't have evidence that God doesn't exist doesn't mean you're right!" It's an unfair comparison, but I think it holds up.

[Da Mecca]

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

Her armor really doesn't look that different from light armor that was in ME1.

Yeah with that open spot in the middle of her chest.

They always did that in ME, light armor always had exposed skin on them.

And don't forget high heels! All light armor in ME had high heels.

[Nohvarr]

www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-mass-effect/714904

Again 5 min 18 seconds, note that she's wearing heels designed to cushion a runners shoe and not high heels. Also note that the suit comes in several pieces, has armor, and is not too disimillar to the armor Anderson and Shepard are wearing in the games opening.

I can't take EM seriously anymore, especially when he claims the characters ben changed and we've yet to hear her speak. Even worse his only defense agains the actualy video was to claim it was a catsuit despite evidance to the contrary. So at this point I will just leave the link up, let people judge for themselves and let EM howl his unfounded fan rage.

Modifié par Nohvarr, 07 juin 2011 - 04:49 .

[Elite Midget]

[quote]Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...


Same thing said about Miranda and Isabella. You were wrong than and you're wrong now.[/quote]
You can't Retcon a character that wasn't in the story yet (Miranda)
And Isabela was always trampy.
So......when your argument finds merit make sure you let me know, I'd love to see it.

[/quote]

Stop being dumb. You know what I meant.

You and your elk told everyone that what we saw wasen't the final attire for Miranda and Isabella. You were wrong than and you're wrong now. Stop misguideing others again and again with your lies and false self-assurances that have failed you twice already.

[Elite Midget]

Nohvarr wrote...

www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-mass-effect/714904

Again 5 min 18 seconds, note that she's wearing heels designed to cushion a runners shoe and not high heels. Also note that the suit comes in several pieces, has armor, and is not too disimillar to the armor Anderson and Shepard are wearing in the games opening.

I can't take EM seriously anymore, especially when he claims the characters ben changed and we've yet to hear her speak. Even worse his only defense agains the actualy video was to claim it was a catsuit despite evidance to the contrary. So at this point I will just leave the link up, let people judge for themselves and let EM howl his unfounded fan rage.

Catsuit.

High Heels.

Kaiden the SENTINEL in Heavy Armor.

> Your post in every way.

Modifié par Elite Midget, 07 juin 2011 - 04:50 .

[Ultai]

Don't worry guys, you'll be able to put her back in armor, via dlc that you can only get from EA's origin service! $$$$$$

[Abstract]

Elite Midget wrote...

Nohvarr wrote...

www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-mass-effect/714904

Again 5 min 18 seconds, note that she's wearing heels designed to cushion a runners shoe and not high heels. Also note that the suit comes in several pieces, has armor, and is not too disimillar to the armor Anderson and Shepard are wearing in the games opening.

I can't take EM seriously anymore, especially when he claims the characters ben changed and we've yet to hear her speak. Even worse his only defense agains the actualy video was to claim it was a catsuit despite evidance to the contrary. So at this point I will just leave the link up, let people judge for themselves and let EM howl his unfounded fan rage.

Catsuit.

High Heels.

Kaiden the SENTINEL in Heavy Armor.

> Your post in every way.

How old are you?

[Elite Midget]

Indeed! $10 DLC just to get armor!

It worked for Miranda! Maybe we'll be dumb enough to do it again, right Bioware?

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

[quote]Elite Midget wrote...

[quote]Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...


Same thing said about Miranda and Isabella. You were wrong than and you're wrong now.[/quote]
You can't Retcon a character that wasn't in the story yet (Miranda)
And Isabela was always trampy.
So......when your argument finds merit make sure you let me know, I'd love to see it.

[/quote]

Stop being dumb. You know what I meant.

You and your elk told everyone that what we saw wasen't the final attire for Miranda and Isabella. You were wrong than and you're wrong now. Stop misguideing others again and again with your lies and false self-assurances that have failed you twice already.[/quote]
Firstly: I never said anything about Miranda or Isabela pregame.
Secondly: I'm not trying to assure myself of anything.
Thirdly: My "lies" are just as valid as your's until you have concrete proof otherwise.

Modifié par Grand Admiral Cheesecake, 07 juin 2011 - 04:53 .