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Elite Midget wrote...

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@Elite Midget -- repeating the same argument over and over again across multiple topics is not productive. It is not even a discussion. And calling people idiots, etc., is even less so. Knock it off.

Everyone else... no more tet-a-tet. Discuss the game, and please stop commenting on each other. If you think someone else is a jerk-- and they very well may be-- keep it to yourself.

RI


If I am called one than I feel that I should be allowed to do the same as well so that I'm on the same level of discuession as the slingers. They understand me better that way.

We are discuessing the game. This is about Ashley and how you've ruined her to appease a certian fanbase that never liked her in the first place. Fans should be allowed to voice their anger when time and again you ignore them and instead you try and reach out to those that don't care.


Mods aren't the ones who make the game. Nice one.

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theelementslayer wrote...

Correct me if Im wrong but how the hell can you retcon a new character. Miri. And how was Isabella a retcon, i think she was the one you were able to threesome with. Quite true to her character I think.

And if ash has good reason that BW explains why should it matter if she cahnged. Ive seen people change in 6 months more then ash changed in 2-4 years. 


I point to the last few pages.

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CommanderNuetral wrote...

Heck Shep has fraking bare arms during his escape and no one is tearing out their hair over that. Course, Shep is a cybernetic god of death so maybe he's not the best argument for such things...


Shepard: "Omnissiah will do....God-Emperor f you're feeling dramatic."

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Now if only she would wear some proper armor instead of a rubber suit.

I'd say it's reasonable to assume that she's in casual wear, since Shepard is also out of his armor.


javierabegazo wrote...

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Yeah... Casual. >.>

Ugh, this doesn't ruin the game for me, but it does lessen my enthusiasm for seeing Ashley again. Seems like females are not allowed to wear heavy armor anymore, especially the one character who MADE FUN of such suits.


This..and the hair is ridiculous considering she's an elite soldier, not a model or a barbie.



Agreed.


What the hell Bioware?

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Abstract wrote...

Mods aren't the ones who make the game. Nice one.



They are the only direct link to those that do make the game. I doubt anyone here can get a hold of a person in the dev team with as much success as a mod unless you're famous or really rich. In those cases you wouldn't even be on tese forums in the first place.

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Weather she is or not, is it really that important? Are honestly not gonna buy it cause she is looking hot?

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TheBlackBaron wrote...

The funny thing about how he keep repeating that Kaidan is in heavy armor is that he's not even in the sole scene where we've seen Ashley out of armor, and in fact, it is literally impossible for him to be.


The same magazine article that had Ash's picture, wearing what appears to be the outfit she had on in the demo, had a picture of Kaidan in heavy armor.  Also Garrus and Liara were wearing the outfits they had on in the demos as well.

So logically, "walking tank" is Kaidan's "look" as "blue jumpsuit" is now Ash's 

Conclusive?  No.  But a safe bet.

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Elite Midget wrote...

RaenImrahl wrote...

@Elite Midget -- repeating the same argument over and over again across multiple topics is not productive. It is not even a discussion. And calling people idiots, etc., is even less so. Knock it off.

Everyone else... no more tet-a-tet. Discuss the game, and please stop commenting on each other. If you think someone else is a jerk-- and they very well may be-- keep it to yourself.

RI


If I am called one than I feel that I should be allowed to do the same as well so that I'm on the same level of discuession as the slingers. They understand me better that way.

We are discuessing the game. This is about Ashley and how you've ruined her to appease a certian fanbase that never liked her in the first place. Fans should be allowed to voice their anger when time and again you ignore them and instead you try and reach out to those that don't care.

The problem is you never wait to be called a name, you jump right into it, for someone who is supposedly so far above the rest of us knuckle-dragers you stoop below our level with amazing speed.

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Chill, folks. Civil discussion please, or you can find another place to hack on each other.

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Nohvarr wrote...

CommanderNuetral wrote...

Heck Shep has fraking bare arms during his escape and no one is tearing out their hair over that. Course, Shep is a cybernetic god of death so maybe he's not the best argument for such things...


Shepard: "Omnissiah will do....God-Emperor f you're feeling dramatic."


I was expecting a Space Marine reference.

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Nohvarr wrote...

CommanderNuetral wrote...

Heck Shep has fraking bare arms during his escape and no one is tearing out their hair over that. Course, Shep is a cybernetic god of death so maybe he's not the best argument for such things...


Shepard: "Omnissiah will do....God-Emperor f you're feeling dramatic."


Shep is confirmed to have other outfits. Casual clothes because he just came from court or whatever.

Based on past games, Ashley is not likely to have any other outfits.

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Mesina2 wrote...

Agreed.


What the hell Bioware?


+1

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

The problem is you never wait to be called a name, you jump right into it, for someone who is supposedly so far above the rest of us knuckle-dragers you stoop below our level with amazing speed.


Oh you.

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theelementslayer wrote...

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theelementslayer wrote...


Ya but your proof is bull to what your trying to prove. Miranda knew her looks gave her an edge, she used that. Isabellas dressing code was a strange way, however her way, to prove that she was and could be just like a man. A very strong stance for feminism in a very weird way.

Ash might have just gotten tired with taht pole up her a*s, who knows. Sometimes ladies like to have their hair down and look *gasp* good.



Retcon.


Correct me if Im wrong but how the hell can you retcon a new character. Miri. And how was Isabella a retcon, i think she was the one you were able to threesome with. Quite true to her character I think.

And if ash has good reason that BW explains why should it matter if she cahnged. Ive seen people change in 6 months more then ash changed in 2-4 years. 

Not to ****** on your parade, but Miri is not a new character.

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Elite Midget wrote...

Kaiden wears Heavy Armor in that scene.

Furthermore first look on Ashley is Catsuit. First look of Kaiden? Heavy Armor.

Sexism.


I hate to add to the dogpile on EM, but please please please point to where Kaidan wears heavy armor in that gameplay scene?  Link?  Have you seen footage that we haven't?  Until you can produce proof, you're conflating one art photo with gameplay footage.  More to the point, that photo obviously shows a different part of the game since Shepard is in full armor, which he is not in the footage with Ashley.

Again friend, link us to the goods.

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Brenon Holmes wrote...

Chill, folks. Civil discussion please, or you can find another place to hack on each other.

I don't think that's very productive. IMO it's best to keep all the trolling to one thread rather than risk it "spilling out" into others

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Brenon Holmes wrote...

Chill, folks. Civil discussion please, or you can find another place to hack on each other.

Fine I will simply ignore things I deem stupid.

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iakus wrote...

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The funny thing about how he keep repeating that Kaidan is in heavy armor is that he's not even in the sole scene where we've seen Ashley out of armor, and in fact, it is literally impossible for him to be.


The same magazine article that had Ash's picture, wearing what appears to be the outfit she had on in the demo, had a picture of Kaidan in heavy armor.  Also Garrus and Liara were wearing the outfits they had on in the demos as well.

So logically, "walking tank" is Kaidan's "look" as "blue jumpsuit" is now Ash's 

Conclusive?  No.  But a safe bet.


Very safe since it follows the trends set by ME2 and DA2. Bioware is a creator of habit. Why care when you can do the same thing over and over again? It made the CoD franchise into a multi-billion dollar hit.

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Oblivious wrote...

Brenon Holmes wrote...

Chill, folks. Civil discussion please, or you can find another place to hack on each other.

I don't think that's very productive. IMO it's best to keep all the trolling to one thread rather than risk it "spilling out" into others

That's actually a fair point.

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Venn wrote...

Not to ****** on your parade, but Miri is not a new character.


Miranda was in Galaxies as well.

Modifié par Elite Midget, 07 juin 2011 - 05:18 .


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Cry moar?

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theelementslayer wrote...

Ya but your proof is bull to what your trying to prove. Miranda knew her looks gave her an edge, she used that. Isabellas dressing code was a strange way, however her way, to prove that she was and could be just like a man. A very strong stance for feminism in a very weird way.

Ash might have just gotten tired with taht pole up her a*s, who knows. Sometimes ladies like to have their hair down and look *gasp* good.


Sure, but not when you're getting shot at. Then if you have any brains you put on your best armour and get your hair out of your eyes.

The Ashley I know had brains.

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iakus wrote...

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The funny thing about how he keep repeating that Kaidan is in heavy armor is that he's not even in the sole scene where we've seen Ashley out of armor, and in fact, it is literally impossible for him to be.


The same magazine article that had Ash's picture, wearing what appears to be the outfit she had on in the demo, had a picture of Kaidan in heavy armor.  Also Garrus and Liara were wearing the outfits they had on in the demos as well.

So logically, "walking tank" is Kaidan's "look" as "blue jumpsuit" is now Ash's 

Conclusive?  No.  But a safe bet.


And yet the only screenshots of Ash that we've seen thus far are of her in situations where, based on Shepard's own appearance, it seems unlikely she'd be in her combat armor.

Are EM's rantings completely unbased? No, but at the moment I wouldn't call it a safe bet - more like a coin flip, at best. If we finally a get a damn combat video with her in it (you know, because she's a soldier and a Spectre, unlike that ****ing developer pet Liara), I'll be the first to start complaining. 

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 07 juin 2011 - 05:21 .


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Pax of Doom wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

Kaiden wears Heavy Armor in that scene.

Furthermore first look on Ashley is Catsuit. First look of Kaiden? Heavy Armor.

Sexism.


I hate to add to the dogpile on EM, but please please please point to where Kaidan wears heavy armor in that gameplay scene?  Link?  Have you seen footage that we haven't?  Until you can produce proof, you're conflating one art photo with gameplay footage.  More to the point, that photo obviously shows a different part of the game since Shepard is in full armor, which he is not in the footage with Ashley.

Again friend, link us to the goods.


In all past games the npcs have only have one outfit (barring slight colour changes). It's a fair assumption.

edit: Actually in me1 they all wore casual clothes on the Normandy.Maybe they all have personalised casual and combat outfits?... It'd be awesome but seems unlikely....

Modifié par Em23, 07 juin 2011 - 05:23 .


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theelementslayer wrote...

Ya but your proof is bull to what your trying to prove. Miranda knew her looks gave her an edge, she used that. Isabellas dressing code was a strange way, however her way, to prove that she was and could be just like a man. A very strong stance for feminism in a very weird way.

Ash might have just gotten tired with taht pole up her a*s, who knows. Sometimes ladies like to have their hair down and look *gasp* good.


Sure, but not when you're getting shot at. Then if you have any brains you put on your best armour and get your hair out of your eyes.

The Ashley I know had brains.




The Ashley I know sacrificed herself on Virmire ^_^.