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[diskoh]

KateKane wrote...

MegaBadExample wrote...

Why are people complaining over nothing?

Character integrity and kinda-sexist character design is hardly nothing.

Sexism is insiting that a woman can't dress a certain way because you don't want her to. Which is what you are doing.

[KBomb]

gosimmons wrote...

The logic of running in high heels while wearing restrictive spandex in a gun fight, or exposing skin in a toxic environment where your shields may fail?

No, I really can't...

Her suit doesn’t look like spandex. And her shoes have a slight heel, they seem to be around the same height as Tela Vasir’s, whose armor people have suggested Ashley should wear.

[MegaBadExample]

diskoh wrote...

KateKane wrote...

MegaBadExample wrote...

Why are people complaining over nothing?

Character integrity and kinda-sexist character design is hardly nothing.

Sexism is insiting that a woman can't dress a certain way because you don't want her to. Which is what you are doing.

Thank chu! 

[Mister Mida]

marshalleck wrote...

mopotter wrote...

Mister Mida wrote...

diskoh wrote...

Nothing like a long hard day of coding to come home and hop on twitter to be screamed at about outfits.

Well, she can always... well, you know, not go on Twitter

Exactly.

Are you saying you want Christina Norman to stop posting ME3 info on twitter?

Who, me? I honestly don't care.

[KateKane]

MegaBadExample wrote...

KateKane wrote...

MegaBadExample wrote...

Why are people complaining over nothing?

Character integrity and kinda-sexist character design is hardly nothing.

Maybe you should go to the Miranda, Jack, Samara or Jacob threads and complain harder.

Why would I? They looked stupid, but what would it accomplish to complain about designs from a game that came out over a year ago?
Maybe once we see what they look like in ME3.

For now, I am content to be displeased with a character's new design being at odds with her past characterization and the established lore.

[diskoh]

AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

diskoh wrote...

Babli wrote...

She wasnt soldier, but diplomat. And she wasnt exposed to vacuum either. Strawman harder please,

Also read something on suspension of disbelief.

She fought pretty damn well though eh? Wasn't even wearing armor.

And why do you bring up space vaccuums? Can you name a time where someone was in a space vaccuum without a helmet? Planets and ships are not vaccuums.

She fought well because she was a 1000 year old biotic and because she had asari commandos and geth fighting with her.

The issue isn't juts vacuums. Your squadmates, in ME2, had their skin exposed even while going through toxic environments.

And there was vacuum in Legion's loyalty mission, derelict Reaper and inside the Collector base.

None of those are vacuums. A low gravity environment does not mean it's a vacuum.

[diskoh]

KateKane wrote...

I am content to be displeased

This about sums it up.

[Temaperacl]

KateKane wrote...

kreite wrote...

Just a thought here ( I think I heard this earlier on the thread) but maybe her hair's like that cause she had to leave in a hurry from some important event where she had to look presentable but still look official cuz y'know, the reapers comin out of nowhere an' attacking earth with the local defenses being unprepared.

Am I missing something here? not being snarky I just usually miss something (like my grammar)

It is a possibility, but after ME2 a lot of of aren't confident that this will be the case.

Exactly this.  If we knew that were the reason or if we knew this was just her casual wear, you would have many fewer people voicing their objections to it. The problem is that we don't have any information that indicates that this is the case.

[mopotter]

diskoh wrote...

Mister Mida wrote...

diskoh wrote...

Nothing like a long hard day of coding to come home and hop on twitter to be screamed at about outfits.

Well, she can always... well, you know, not go on Twitter

So she should be cut off from something she enjoys doing because people can't control their misdirected rage?

Well, if she enjoys it, she'll have to take the whole package.  Too bad her twitter is part of her job,  Instead of telling them about artistic views, maybe she should tell them who is in charge of making those artistic decisions and let that person deal with the hate.  

[KateKane]

diskoh wrote...

KateKane wrote...

MegaBadExample wrote...

Why are people complaining over nothing?

Character integrity and kinda-sexist character design is hardly nothing.

Sexism is insiting that a woman can't dress a certain way because you don't want her to. Which is what you are doing.

I find it sexist that a female character is going into battle with thin, form-fitting armor, elevated heels, and loose hair while her male counterpart appears to actually be combat ready.

[diskoh]

mopotter wrote...

diskoh wrote...

Mister Mida wrote...

diskoh wrote...

Nothing like a long hard day of coding to come home and hop on twitter to be screamed at about outfits.

Well, she can always... well, you know, not go on Twitter

So she should be cut off from something she enjoys doing because people can't control their misdirected rage?

Well, if she enjoys it, she'll have to take the whole package.  Too bad her twitter is part of her job,  Instead of telling them about artistic views, maybe she should tell them who is in charge of making those artistic decisions and let that person deal with the hate.  

i think she should just block them.

[Mr. MannlyMan]

KBomb wrote...

Babli wrote...

I am speaking about combat and soldiers, especially in space. I have nothing against "exposed skin" where is it appropiate

Well, technically, combat in space isn’t realistic either. Can you imagine taking damage, especially bullets in a pressurized suit? ME1 had armor that wasn’t realistic either really.

Erm... here's a Codex excerpt on armor.

The last level of protection is provided by the suit's microframe
computers, whose input detectors are woven throughout the fabric. These
manage the self-healing system, which finds rents in the fabric and,
assuming any such tear would wound the flesh underneath, seals the area
off with sterile, non-conductive medi-gel. This stanches minor wounds
and plugs holes in the suit that could prove fatal in vacuum or toxic
environments. Soldiers are not always fond of the "squish skin" that
oozes gel on them at a moment's notice, but fatalities have dropped
sharply since the system was implemented.


Oopsies.

Modifié par Mr. MannlyMan, 11 juin 2011 - 08:07 .

[gosimmons]

KBomb wrote...

gosimmons wrote...

The logic of running in high heels while wearing restrictive spandex in a gun fight, or exposing skin in a toxic environment where your shields may fail?

No, I really can't...

Her suit doesn’t look like spandex. And her shoes have a slight heel, they seem to be around the same height as Tela Vasir’s, whose armor people have suggested Ashley should wear.

Was mainly pointing out my problem with the logic behind general Me2 outfits more than Ashley's new look.

Something like Vasir's could be an interesting choice for light armor, but Ashley seemed to commend heavier equipment. And who knows if they plan to expand much more on squad customization?

[Massadonious1]

I find it baffling that people are still insisting she's going to be fighting Reapers in that thing.

[diskoh]

KateKane wrote...

diskoh wrote...

KateKane wrote...

MegaBadExample wrote...

Why are people complaining over nothing?

Character integrity and kinda-sexist character design is hardly nothing.

Sexism is insiting that a woman can't dress a certain way because you don't want her to. Which is what you are doing.

I find it sexist that a female character is going into battle with thin, form-fitting armor, elevated heels, and loose hair while her male counterpart appears to actually be combat ready.

Combat ready sir! Got my thin form fitting armor! Now let's make that Ashley woman put on something loose and concealing like a nice hijab or burqa. Sexism FTW!

Modifié par diskoh, 11 juin 2011 - 08:09 .

[MegaBadExample]

KateKane wrote...

MegaBadExample wrote...

KateKane wrote...

MegaBadExample wrote...

Why are people complaining over nothing?

Character integrity and kinda-sexist character design is hardly nothing.

Maybe you should go to the Miranda, Jack, Samara or Jacob threads and complain harder.

Why would I? They looked stupid, but what would it accomplish to complain about designs from a game that came out over a year ago?
Maybe once we see what they look like in ME3.

For now, I am content to be displeased with a character's new design being at odds with her past characterization and the established lore.

Okay. I can see you're easily displeased then, if a character re-model saddens you. Good luck with that.

[mopotter]

LPPrince wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Babli wrote...
I wonder if she still believes in God and if she will be bisexual.

This is the silliest line I've read all day,  kudos.

Especially when you consider that both Ashley and Kaiden were originally going to be bisexual.

But they weren't made bisexual so that idea means nothing.  What was actually put in the game is what defines it, not what might have been, or was going to be but wasn't, put in the game.

[Temaperacl]

Massadonious1 wrote...

I find it baffling that people are still insisting she's going to be fighting Reapers in that thing.

Do we have any evidence to the contrary?

[diskoh]

mopotter wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Babli wrote...
I wonder if she still believes in God and if she will be bisexual.

This is the silliest line I've read all day,  kudos.

Especially when you consider that both Ashley and Kaiden were originally going to be bisexual.

But they weren't made bisexual so that idea means nothing.  What was actually put in the game is what defines it, not what might have been, or was going to be but wasn't, put in the game.

So Ashley's new outfit defines her. Which means people are mistaken about her character and should stop whining that it doesn't fit her.

[KBomb]

mopotter wrote...

Well, if she enjoys it, she'll have to take the whole package.  Too bad her twitter is part of her job,  Instead of telling them about artistic views, maybe she should tell them who is in charge of making those artistic decisions and let that person deal with the hate.  

Why should anyone have to deal with hate? Absurd. Constructive criticism, concerns and even suggestion should be what they deal with. Not vitriol and childish behavior because people lack the lexicon or good taste to place their thoughts into respectful and tasteful complaints. It’s ridiculous that anyone should be expected to deal with hate or harassment.

[Sylvianus]

Temaperacl wrote...

Massadonious1 wrote...

I find it baffling that people are still insisting she's going to be fighting Reapers in that thing.

Do we have any evidence to the contrary?

So what's the point ? It remains nine month. You'll cry the whole time? That's the winning strategy ?

[Massadonious1]

Jesus christ, it's ONE SCENE in which the ONLY context we have is that she ran out in a hurry to help Shepard escape Earth.

Maybe we should of asked the Cerberus operatives on the SR2 who allowed Joker to activate EDI to put on armor first.

Modifié par Massadonious1, 11 juin 2011 - 08:14 .