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[MegaBadExample]

Sylvianus wrote...

Temaperacl wrote...

Massadonious1 wrote...

I find it baffling that people are still insisting she's going to be fighting Reapers in that thing.

Do we have any evidence to the contrary?

So what's the point ? It remains nine month. You'll cry the whole time? That's the winning strategy ?

Win.

[Mister Mida]

KBomb wrote...

mopotter wrote...

Well, if she enjoys it, she'll have to take the whole package.  Too bad her twitter is part of her job,  Instead of telling them about artistic views, maybe she should tell them who is in charge of making those artistic decisions and let that person deal with the hate.  

Why should anyone have to deal with hate? Absurd. Constructive criticism, concerns and even suggestion should be what they deal with. Not vitriol and childish behavior because people lack the lexicon or good taste to place their thoughts into respectful and tasteful complaints. It’s ridiculous that anyone should be expected to deal with hate or harassment.

No, no one should. But even then you have to take into consideration that things like this can happen. You can't take all the good and leave all the bad out of it. We're not in Care Bear land where everyone's all nice and lovely to eachother (yet).

[KBomb]

Mr. MannlyMan wrote...


Erm... here's a Codex excerpt on armor.

The last level of protection is provided by the suit's microframe
computers, whose input detectors are woven throughout the fabric. These
manage the self-healing system, which finds rents in the fabric and,
assuming any such tear would wound the flesh underneath, seals the area
off with sterile, non-conductive medi-gel. This stanches minor wounds
and plugs holes in the suit that could prove fatal in vacuum or toxic
environments. Soldiers are not always fond of the "squish skin" that
oozes gel on them at a moment's notice, but fatalities have dropped
sharply since the system was implemented.


Oopsies.

That doesn’t negate the fact that it’s unrealistic as in you can’t do that in real life. In fact, you proved my point. That is a codex from a game. Where you can bend reality to suit the realm you wish to create.

[Mr. MannlyMan]

Massadonious1 wrote...

Jesus christ, it's ONE SCENE in which the ONLY context we have is that she ran out in a hurry to help Shepard escape Earth.

Maybe we should of asked the Cerberus operatives on the SR2 who allowed Joker to activate EDI to put on armor first.

....... we've gone over this, haven't we? 

[Nohvarr]

KateKane wrote...

diskoh wrote...

KateKane wrote...

MegaBadExample wrote...

Why are people complaining over nothing?

Character integrity and kinda-sexist character design is hardly nothing.

Sexism is insiting that a woman can't dress a certain way because you don't want her to. Which is what you are doing.

I find it sexist that a female character is going into battle with thin, form-fitting armor,

You mean like jacon taylor wore in ME 2. Actually Jacob wore less armor and ws a soldier as expierence as Ashley.

elevated heels,

Like the kind you'd find on some running shoes?





and from other games

[mopotter]

Nohvarr wrote...

mopotter wrote...

But I disagree with the idea that someone we haven't seen in years would change so much that we don't recognize them.  I have friends I don't see but once every 5 or 6 years and their values have been consistant and while I have changed over the years, I still have the same core beliefs I had at 29.  
 

Have you changed clothing styles? have your friends done things differently than they used to? This isn't the big change some people are making it out to be, there's been nothing to suggest that she isn't a soldier, it's just that her clothing/armor changed as our own and her understanding of the universe expands.

Also as to other males wearing the same thing, see Jacob Taylor for a less armored verson.

Well, how long has it been from ME1 - to ME3?  3 or 4 years.  Then no my clothing style pretty much stayed the same from 27 - 39.   Now, yes it's changed a little, I can't wear the same clothing style I did back then. 

And I like Ash's outfit and the hair, I just don't like it as armor.  She told Shepard he'd have to take her to dinner to get her in an outfit like that.  If that's what they are doing when the trial is getting underway that's great.  If this is what I have to have her wear when we are going on a mission, that's not great.  And Jacob's armor does't have a V neck.   and Kaidan's looks practical.  

[KateKane]

Massadonious1 wrote...

Jesus christ, it's ONE SCENE in which the ONLY context we have is that she ran out in a hurry to help Shepard escape Earth.

Maybe we should of asked the Cerberus operatives on the SR2 who allowed Joker to activate EDI to put on armor first.

Miranda never changed out of her inexplicably tight lab clothes. Jack never put anything on over the belt bra she was allowed to wear in prison for some reason. Thane never stopped trying his hardest to look like Neo.

I'd love for Bioware to surprise me hear, but I don't expect them to.

[diskoh]

The pro-new look people have totally won this thread It was fun to watch.

[shinobi602]

KateKane wrote...
Character integrity and kinda-sexist character design is hardly nothing.

Sexist?

Oh Christ. I guarantee she was probably designed by a female designer. In fact, there was a video or interview out there somewhere where Christina even said most of their female designs were designed by, *gasp* women.

[Adanu]

KateKane wrote...

but then why would heavy armor even be an option? And that still wouldn't justify the exposed v-neck.

Have you actually looked up what armor is made from in universe? It's kinetic padding with shield/biotic tech. You can just as easily make a catsuit from something like that as shepard type armor.

Frankly, the idea of light/medium/heavy armor is outdated term wise when just about any current technology would be useless against the mass accelerator weapons of the ME universe. It would go right through kevlar like butter and shred anything it goes up against probably.

[Massadonious1]

Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

Massadonious1 wrote...

Jesus christ, it's ONE SCENE in which the ONLY context we have is that she ran out in a hurry to help Shepard escape Earth.

Maybe we should of asked the Cerberus operatives on the SR2 who allowed Joker to activate EDI to put on armor first.

....... we've gone over this, haven't we? 

If it's Christina Norma's Twitter quote, then no, because people are taking the "artistic" line out of context.

[diskoh]

KateKane wrote...

Massadonious1 wrote...

Jesus christ, it's ONE SCENE in which the ONLY context we have is that she ran out in a hurry to help Shepard escape Earth.

Maybe we should of asked the Cerberus operatives on the SR2 who allowed Joker to activate EDI to put on armor first.

Miranda never changed out of her inexplicably tight lab clothes. Jack never put anything on over the belt bra she was allowed to wear in prison for some reason. Thane never stopped trying his hardest to look like Neo.

I'd love for Bioware to surprise me hear, but I don't expect them to.

Yes, they all had shields. Just like Ashley and Jacob, who wear almost exactly the same outfit.

Case closed.

[shinobi602]

Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

Erm... here's a Codex excerpt on armor.

The last level of protection is provided by the suit's microframe
computers, whose input detectors are woven throughout the fabric. These
manage the self-healing system, which finds rents in the fabric and,
assuming any such tear would wound the flesh underneath, seals the area
off with sterile, non-conductive medi-gel. This stanches minor wounds
and plugs holes in the suit that could prove fatal in vacuum or toxic
environments. Soldiers are not always fond of the "squish skin" that
oozes gel on them at a moment's notice, but fatalities have dropped
sharply since the system was implemented.


Oopsies.

End topic.

[Massadonious1]

KateKane wrote...
I'd love for Bioware to surprise me hear, but I don't expect them to.

Then maybe you should save your rage for when they ultimately let you down.

Personally, I'd rather not let their history cloud what should be rational thinking.

Modifié par Massadonious1, 11 juin 2011 - 08:20 .

[Antivenger]

Adanu wrote...

KateKane wrote...

but then why would heavy armor even be an option? And that still wouldn't justify the exposed v-neck.

Have you actually looked up what armor is made from in universe? It's kinetic padding with shield/biotic tech. You can just as easily make a catsuit from something like that as shepard type armor.

Frankly, the idea of light/medium/heavy armor is outdated term wise when just about any current technology would be useless against the mass accelerator weapons of the ME universe. It would go right through kevlar like butter and shred anything it goes up against probably.

Maybe it's just me, but I never particularly cared about the lore behind armour. I just want heavy armour because I like the look of walking tanks. Hopefully, the AAP has that (it does for James Vega, anyways).

[Babli]

diskoh wrote...

The pro-new look people have totally won this thread It was fun to watch.

Yeah, because others are fed with reading your broken strawman arguments.

I am going to sleep, its late here. You may take it as victory lol.

[-Skorpious-]

Massadonious1 wrote...

KateKane wrote...
I'd love for Bioware to surprise me hear, but I don't expect them to.

Then maybe you should save your rage for when they ultimately let you down.

Personally, I'd rather not let their history cloud what should be rational thinking.

By then it will already have been too late. Bioware prides themselves *on listening to fan feedback, so we are simply addressing a concern we have with one of their games which is still in development, thus, can potentially be affected by our criticism (however unlikely).

Complaining afterwards is more pointless than complaining beforehand. 

Modifié par -Skorpious-, 11 juin 2011 - 08:27 .

[Sylvianus]

KateKane wrote...

Massadonious1 wrote...

Jesus christ, it's ONE SCENE in which the ONLY context we have is that she ran out in a hurry to help Shepard escape Earth.

Maybe we should of asked the Cerberus operatives on the SR2 who allowed Joker to activate EDI to put on armor first.

Miranda never changed out of her inexplicably tight lab clothes. Jack never put anything on over the belt bra she was allowed to wear in prison for some reason. Thane never stopped trying his hardest to look like Neo.

I'd love for Bioware to surprise me hear, but I don't expect them to.

It's different, the situation isn't the same as in the past. Bioware has heard and allowed Miranda to have armor. ( and not Thane however, A MALE )  Why not take this factor into account and have a little more confidence ?

What is this silly fear that relies nothing other than a few seconds of vid, and in the beginning, where we see Shepoard without amor too. Also in M2 there were TWO outfit, not one. I wish too that Ashley has her armor. You see me crying ?

The major problem with your complaint, is that it is based only on speculation. You say  it is like that, without knowing anything more than the other, actually you know nothing. Your cries pose you as children with all that.

Modifié par Sylvianus, 11 juin 2011 - 08:25 .

[Massadonious1]

-Skorpious- wrote...
Complaining afterwards is more pointless than complaining beforehand. 

Then I worded it wrong.

No one is expressing the proper type of concern. No one is asking for clarification on whether this suit will be the only thing Ashley wears or if it is, can it still operate in space or a vaccum.

All I'm hearing is irrational anger and assumptions (about her personality as well) over limited information.

There is no constructive criticism here.

Modifié par Massadonious1, 11 juin 2011 - 08:29 .

[mopotter]

diskoh wrote...

mopotter wrote...

Mister Mida wrote...

diskoh wrote...

Nothing like a long hard day of coding to come home and hop on twitter to be screamed at about outfits.

Well, she can always... well, you know, not go on Twitter

Exactly.

Ok then I'll start harrassing you here and you can leave.

Fat  chance.     Too much harrassment and I'll just ignore you because it's not worth the effort or stress, and chances are if I went through all fo your post on different subjects there is probable something in there I'd agree with.

 But if it's part of her job then she is just going to have to deal with it.  If it gets to a point where she hates it then she'll have to decide which is more important.  

[AngelicMachinery]

Nohvarr wrote...

Aren't these the shoes that are supposed to give you a better butt?

[Wulfram]

(It's not about sexism.  After all, Liara has proper armour despite, as a biotic using spy from the fanservice race, being a prime candidate for a catsuit.)

Nohvarr wrote...

elevated heels,

Like the kind you'd find on some running shoes?

Those look nothing like Ashley's shoes

and from other games

The first pair looks nothing like Ashley's shoes.  The second pair look like really stupid things to wear in combat.

Modifié par Wulfram, 11 juin 2011 - 08:32 .

[KateKane]

Sylvianus wrote...
The major problem with your complaint, is that it is based only on speculation. You say  it is like that, without knowing anything more than the other, actually you know nothing.

No, I'm saying that based on what I've seen of this game and those that came before it, I doubt she'll have an alternate look that is more in-line with her past characterization.
I am, however, open to the possibility that this will not be the case. She may only look like this for a short time, but I do not expect that to happen.

Modifié par KateKane, 11 juin 2011 - 08:32 .

[marshalleck]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Aren't these the shoes that are supposed to give you a better butt?

Shoes don't do that. Exercise does.

Modifié par marshalleck, 11 juin 2011 - 08:32 .

[Sylvianus]

Massadonious1 wrote...

-Skorpious- wrote...
Complaining afterwards is more pointless than complaining beforehand. 

Then I worded it wrong.

No one is expressing the proper type of concern. No one is asking for clarification on whether this suit will be the only thing Ashley wears or if it is, can it still operate in space or a vaccum.

All I'm hearing is irrational anger and assumptions (about her personality as well) over limited information.

There is no constructive criticism here.

You win sir !