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[Schneidend]

Elite Midget wrote...

Haters are hypocrites. They hated on Ashley and refused to learn her character. Now that Ashley is Miranda 2.0 they want her just because she's a sex object like Miranda now.

Ergo Bioware gave many Ashley fans the bird and said they would retcon her into a sex object to appease the haters.

Elite Midget, every one of your posts is golden. Epic Nerd Rage at its finest. By the time ME3 actually comes out, you might have one seriously piquant vintage of masterfully fermented ferociousness on your hands. Keep up the impotent fury, buddy!

[Clonedzero]

ADLegend21 wrote...

All this whining over a catsuit in a DEMO where VA's were different than they will be and Shepard was wearing a T-SHIRT. No mention of Sheploo in a T-shirt and that's okay when he's in combat, but Ashle wearing a Spectre jumpsuit on a pick up (she's not actually in combat) and it's so aggregious. suck it up.

yeah, its kinda funny.

"shepards in civvy clothes fighting dudes fine, thats cool, he's shepard"
ashley in a catsuit? OMG RETCON RETCON RETCON!!!!!!!!

nerd rage like woah.

[Elite Midget]

You imply I'm angry. I'm just overly aggressive due to my lifestyle.

Though before you ask...

No, I don't take Roids. I just don't like taking bull**** from those I place my faith in.

[Elite Midget]

Clonedzero wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

All this whining over a catsuit in a DEMO where VA's were different than they will be and Shepard was wearing a T-SHIRT. No mention of Sheploo in a T-shirt and that's okay when he's in combat, but Ashle wearing a Spectre jumpsuit on a pick up (she's not actually in combat) and it's so aggregious. suck it up.

yeah, its kinda funny.

"shepards in civvy clothes fighting dudes fine, thats cool, he's shepard"
ashley in a catsuit? OMG RETCON RETCON RETCON!!!!!!!!

nerd rage like woah.

You're so dumb...

Shepard had civie clothes and armor in ME2 and ME1. In ME3 you're on trial thus you aren't geared up. Ashley and Kaiden? They don't have civie clothes anymore, just like the ME2 cast, and only have one outfit outside alts. Like ME2 you can't customize their armor.

What you see is what you get.

Just like with Miranda and Isabella. Funny how people like you were wrong than too, right?

[Ziggy]

KnossosTNC wrote...

bandfred wrote...
I love it how this forum was full of Ashley hate ("she's a racist! she's a religious nut! wah wah wah") and then she gets a boob job and longer hair and everything is okay.

What can I say? Boobs work.

Nab20 wrote...Yeah I prefer sexy women. Sorry for that. 

Nab20 wrote...
Are you gay or wat ? Of course she wasn't sexy in ME1...

Why dont we just cut to the chase and have all the women be naked? That seems to be all they're good for in your opinions anyway. I hate these forums sometimes.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Elite Midget wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

All this whining over a catsuit in a DEMO where VA's were different than they will be and Shepard was wearing a T-SHIRT. No mention of Sheploo in a T-shirt and that's okay when he's in combat, but Ashle wearing a Spectre jumpsuit on a pick up (she's not actually in combat) and it's so aggregious. suck it up.

yeah, its kinda funny.

"shepards in civvy clothes fighting dudes fine, thats cool, he's shepard"
ashley in a catsuit? OMG RETCON RETCON RETCON!!!!!!!!

nerd rage like woah.

You're so dumb...

Shepard had civie clothes and armor in ME2 and ME1. In ME3 you're on trial thus you aren't geared up. Ashley and Kaiden? They don't have civie clothes anymore, just like the ME2 cast, and only have one outfit outside alts. Like ME2 you can't customize their armor.

What you see is what you get.

Just like with Miranda and Isabella. Funny how people like you were wrong than too, right?

You know for a fact that there is no "we're not actively shooting sh*t so it's a good idea to wear something more casual wear"
Your obvious knowledge of minute yet-to-be released details is amazing!
Can you tell me if Shepard will tell any jokes?
Maybe you can forsee what Garrus' new one liner will be?

[jeweledleah]

funny thing about hair. it really ruins your depth perception and concentration when its in your eyes. so fine, she didn't have time to change into a heavy armor (I'm having difficulty buying it, considering the heavily armored guy next to her, but whatever). but it literally takes couple of seconds, even as you are running (in Ashley's case - to the cargo bay - and never mind the standing still in an elevator, in case she was coming from upper decks), to pull your hair back into at least a ponytail and it does wonders for your vision. takes couple of extra seconds for a quick, loose chignon, but she doesn't have to have a bun all the time.

thing about Miranda... her hair was longer but even Miranda's hair wasn't covering half her face.

that look is very lovely on a runway, but its ridiculous on a soldier. and yes, I know its a game before you say anything about my pleas for realism, but like others have said - practicality is part of Ashley's personality. or was anyways.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Em23 wrote...

KnossosTNC wrote...

bandfred wrote...
I love it how this forum was full of Ashley hate ("she's a racist! she's a religious nut! wah wah wah") and then she gets a boob job and longer hair and everything is okay.

What can I say? Boobs work.

Nab20 wrote...Yeah I prefer sexy women. Sorry for that. 

Nab20 wrote...
Are you gay or wat ? Of course she wasn't sexy in ME1...

Why dont we just cut to the chase and have all the women be naked? That seems to be all they're good for in your opinions anyway. I hate these forums sometimes.

Nab20 you seem to believe there is only one definition of "sexy" I for one found that Ashley's ME1 appearance had an appeal all it's own. That of someone who can look and look practical.

[ADLegend21]

Elite Midget wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

All this whining over a catsuit in a DEMO where VA's were different than they will be and Shepard was wearing a T-SHIRT. No mention of Sheploo in a T-shirt and that's okay when he's in combat, but Ashle wearing a Spectre jumpsuit on a pick up (she's not actually in combat) and it's so aggregious. suck it up.

yeah, its kinda funny.

"shepards in civvy clothes fighting dudes fine, thats cool, he's shepard"
ashley in a catsuit? OMG RETCON RETCON RETCON!!!!!!!!

nerd rage like woah.

You're so dumb...

Shepard had civie clothes and armor in ME2 and ME1. In ME3 you're on trial thus you aren't geared up. Ashley and Kaiden? They don't have civie clothes anymore, just like the ME2 cast, and only have one outfit outside alts. Like ME2 you can't customize their armor.

What you see is what you get.

Just like with Miranda and Isabella. Funny how people like you were wrong than too, right?

Ashley and Kaidan are SPECTRE's they were probably at the trail as well but got picke dup in the Normandy since they're still in the Allaince (hell they probaby went to get the Normandy) Again nothing in the demo is finalized, even the level since Ash and Garrus were on a level in the ME1 demo that wasn't even in the finale game. Ashley as on board the normandy the whole time and it was a pick up for Shepard and Admiral Anderson, why should she be armored up just to wait in the cargo bay for shepard who's not even in armor himself? Plus her "catsuit" is spectre gear which is made of the higest quality materials in the galaxy like all spectre weapons and gear. Also you forget bioware confirmed squad outfit customization.

[Elite Midget]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

You know for a fact that there is no "we're not actively shooting sh*t so it's a good idea to wear something more casual wear"
Your obvious knowledge of minute yet-to-be released details is amazing!
Can you tell me if Shepard will tell any jokes?
Maybe you can forsee what Garrus' new one liner will be?

Not even going to comment.

It would be an insult to my intelligence dealing with your type.

[Mr. MannlyMan]

Em23 wrote...

KnossosTNC wrote...

bandfred wrote...
I love it how this forum was full of Ashley hate ("she's a racist! she's a religious nut! wah wah wah") and then she gets a boob job and longer hair and everything is okay.

What can I say? Boobs work.

Nab20 wrote...Yeah I prefer sexy women. Sorry for that. 

Nab20 wrote...
Are you gay or wat ? Of course she wasn't sexy in ME1...

Why dont we just cut to the chase and have all the women be naked? That seems to be all they're good for in your opinions anyway. I hate these forums sometimes.

Ah, don't mind them. Sex makes people do stupid (and crazy) things.

[Elite Midget]

ADLegend21 wrote...

Ashley and Kaidan are SPECTRE's they were probably at the trail as well but got picke dup in the Normandy since they're still in the Allaince (hell they probaby went to get the Normandy) Again nothing in the demo is finalized, even the level since Ash and Garrus were on a level in the ME1 demo that wasn't even in the finale game. Ashley as on board the normandy the whole time and it was a pick up for Shepard and Admiral Anderson, why should she be armored up just to wait in the cargo bay for shepard who's not even in armor himself? Plus her "catsuit" is spectre gear which is made of the higest quality materials in the galaxy like all spectre weapons and gear. Also you forget bioware confirmed squad outfit customization.

Ashley is Ashley.

Replay ME1 please. You clearly lack knowledge on this subject.

Also.

Why does KAIDEN get Heavy Armor when you first meet him but Ashley gets a CATSUIT when you first meet her?

Sexism. That's why.

If Kaiden can wear Heavy Spectre armor than so can Ashley who's a soldier through and through.

[Nab20]

Nab20 you seem to believe there is only one definition of "sexy" I for one found that Ashley's ME1 appearance had an appeal all it's own. That of someone who can look and look practical.

Ash wasn't sexy in ME1 but it's not all about her appreance. It's the way she talk, the way she react. Clearly she was not attractive sorry

[Iakus]

ADLegend21 wrote...

All this whining over a catsuit in a DEMO where VA's were different than they will be and Shepard was wearing a T-SHIRT. No mention of Sheploo in a T-shirt and that's okay when he's in combat, but Ashle wearing a Spectre jumpsuit on a pick up (she's not actually in combat) and it's so aggregious. suck it up.

We see in other demos that Shepard does in fact get N7 armor to play with

We do not see Ash in any other outfit.  Not in the demos.  Not in stills.

There were no "casual outfits" or alternate clothing for any squadmates in ME 2 prior to aaps

There was very little variation in companion outfits in DA2.

So yeah, I understand it's not nescesarilly final, but I'm thinking there's cause for alarm here.  And I will continue to be worried about this until I see otherwise in a demo or trailer, or until someone official says for certain if that's her "work clothes" or not.

[Elite Midget]

KnossosTNC wrote...

Okay, for a slightly more concerted contribution to this discussion. Seems like the "Spectre on holiday" theory has been discounted, and thankfully nobody decided to seriously take up on my "brainwashed" theory, may I suggest another?

Essentially, people change over time, especially if there are stimuli that encourage such changes. That's a proven fact. It's been two years since Mass Effect 1 to Mass Effect 2, and probably also considerable amount of time from the end of Mass Effect 2 to Mass Effect 3, as in that time span Ashley was promoted to Lieutenant and then became a Spectre.

Maybe something happened over course of that time span, something that at first changed her as person inside - remember, we never really got to know her as person two years on in her rather brief Mass Effect 2 cameo. Maybe that change continued to accumulate after Mass Effect 2, until it starts to reflect externally as well, in her fashion sense, her choice of clothes, her habits, etc. Maybe it's a reflection of her new needs, new motivations, new perspective on things. That could be interesting.

Is that more plausible? I think so. Yes! (Pumps fist) Bioware devs should take notes.

You do know that ME3 only takes place a year after ME2, right? Not to mention that ME1 took place 2 years before ME2 and in ME2 Ashley didn't change even after she met Shepard again.

[Clonedzero]

Elite Midget wrote...

Clonedzero wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

All this whining over a catsuit in a DEMO where VA's were different than they will be and Shepard was wearing a T-SHIRT. No mention of Sheploo in a T-shirt and that's okay when he's in combat, but Ashle wearing a Spectre jumpsuit on a pick up (she's not actually in combat) and it's so aggregious. suck it up.

yeah, its kinda funny.

"shepards in civvy clothes fighting dudes fine, thats cool, he's shepard"
ashley in a catsuit? OMG RETCON RETCON RETCON!!!!!!!!

nerd rage like woah.

You're so dumb...

Shepard had civie clothes and armor in ME2 and ME1. In ME3 you're on trial thus you aren't geared up. Ashley and Kaiden? They don't have civie clothes anymore, just like the ME2 cast, and only have one outfit outside alts. Like ME2 you can't customize their armor.

What you see is what you get.

Just like with Miranda and Isabella. Funny how people like you were wrong than too, right?

so you know crew members are restricted to a single outfit style? did you get a memo or interview that no one else got? cus i certainly didnt get anything saying "crew members can never be wearing normal clothes or uniforms".

ashley had normal clothes in ME1.

if shepard is in trial. it makes sense that ashley would attend it, former crewmate/friend possibly love interest. good bet she'd be there. recently made spectre? should probably sport that spectre uniform right?

just because garrus for example has his combat armor, doesnt mean he'll ALWAYS be wearing it. same goes for ashley. maybe on the ship she wont be wearing it all the time.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Elite Midget wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

You know for a fact that there is no "we're not actively shooting sh*t so it's a good idea to wear something more casual wear"
Your obvious knowledge of minute yet-to-be released details is amazing!
Can you tell me if Shepard will tell any jokes?
Maybe you can forsee what Garrus' new one liner will be?

Not even going to comment.

It would be an insult to my intelligence dealing with your type.

You do realize that counts as a comment yes?
You constantly rage about a game that is months away from release , one which you know next to nothing about. If you're going to b*tch and moan at least wait until it's out. Because then you'll know exactly what to complain about.

[Elite Midget]

Nab20 wrote...

Nab20 you seem to believe there is only one definition of "sexy" I for one found that Ashley's ME1 appearance had an appeal all it's own. That of someone who can look and look practical.

Ash wasn't sexy in ME1 but it's not all about her appreance. It's the way she talk, the way she react. Clearly she was not attractive sorry

Than you have no right supporting Bioware in screwing up Ashley since you didn't even like her to begin with! You have Miranda so why is it okay for Bioware to destroy one of their most iconic and strong female leads in ME into a stupid bimbo? To appease you?

Please.

[Elite Midget]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...


You do realize that counts as a comment yes?
You constantly rage about a game that is months away from release , one which you know next to nothing about. If you're going to b*tch and moan at least wait until it's out. Because then you'll know exactly what to complain about.

Isabella.

Miranda.

Arguement is over. Stop failing at it.

[Iakus]

KnossosTNC wrote...

Maybe something happened over course of that time span, something that at first changed her as person inside - remember, we never really got to know her as person two years on in her rather brief Mass Effect 2 cameo. Maybe that change continued to accumulate after Mass Effect 2, until it starts to reflect externally as well, in her fashion sense, her choice of clothes, her habits, etc. Maybe it's a reflection of her new needs, new motivations, new perspective on things. That could be interesting.

Is that more plausible? I think so. Yes! (Pumps fist) Bioware devs should take notes.

Given they were in their iconic ME 1 outfits on Horizon, I'd say whatever happened would have happened in the last few months 

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Elite Midget wrote...

KnossosTNC wrote...

Okay, for a slightly more concerted contribution to this discussion. Seems like the "Spectre on holiday" theory has been discounted, and thankfully nobody decided to seriously take up on my "brainwashed" theory, may I suggest another?

Essentially, people change over time, especially if there are stimuli that encourage such changes. That's a proven fact. It's been two years since Mass Effect 1 to Mass Effect 2, and probably also considerable amount of time from the end of Mass Effect 2 to Mass Effect 3, as in that time span Ashley was promoted to Lieutenant and then became a Spectre.

Maybe something happened over course of that time span, something that at first changed her as person inside - remember, we never really got to know her as person two years on in her rather brief Mass Effect 2 cameo. Maybe that change continued to accumulate after Mass Effect 2, until it starts to reflect externally as well, in her fashion sense, her choice of clothes, her habits, etc. Maybe it's a reflection of her new needs, new motivations, new perspective on things. That could be interesting.

Is that more plausible? I think so. Yes! (Pumps fist) Bioware devs should take notes.

You do know that ME3 only takes place a year after ME2, right? Not to mention that ME1 took place 2 years before ME2 and in ME2 Ashley didn't change even after she met Shepard again.

So because she wore the same armor in her very short cameo in 2 there is absolutely NO WAY POSSIBLE for her to have the option in 3?

[ObserverStatus]

KnossosTNC wrote...

I noticed something at the very beginning of the E3 live press conference.



My thought at the time: She looks to be a squad member or a familiar acquaintance of Shepard. Wait, there's something familiar about her. Is that... ...Ashley Williams?

She looks good.

Nope, that's Samus Aran.  Either that or a palette swap of miranda.

[Elite Midget]

Clonedzero wrote...
 so you know crew members are restricted to a single outfit style? did you get a memo or interview that no one else got? cus i certainly didnt get anything saying "crew members can never be wearing normal clothes or uniforms".

ashley had normal clothes in ME1.

if shepard is in trial. it makes sense that ashley would attend it, former crewmate/friend possibly love interest. good bet she'd be there. recently made spectre? should probably sport that spectre uniform right?

just because garrus for example has his combat armor, doesnt mean he'll ALWAYS be wearing it. same goes for ashley. maybe on the ship she wont be wearing it all the time.

Masss Effect 2.

Also.

Kaiden is wearing HEAVY armor at the trial.

Ashley is in a Catsuit.

Are you that daft that you don't notice this or do you support this blantant sexism?