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[Iakus]

Bluko wrote...

trobbins777 wrote...
 There is just too much we don't know at this point for anyone to draw any valid conclusions as you quite sarcastically seem to have done, concerns yes, but not conclusions.

And that's why I am extremely concerned. Do you really think Bioware plans on having multiple outfits for characters in-game? Or are they going to repeat ME2 do you think? (We are getting Appearence Pack DLC again.) So far from what I have seen they haven't exactly strayed that far from what they did in ME2. I don't entertain wishful thinking that Bioware is going to give us the option to have squadmates in different armor. All they have to say is Ashley will have a suit of heavier armor available and I'll rest my case. Seems pretty simple. Heck they could just even lie. Obviously those of us who take issue with Ashley's lack of armor are an insignificant minority of whiners anways. Why not just silence us if what we arguing for is so trite?


I never expected ME2 or ME3 to be exactly like ME1 again. I'm not asking all my squadmates return as my squad members again or anything like that. I'm not even asking for the Mako return. I'm just asking, plea'ing I guess at this point, for Bioware to give the squadmates I will have some kind of appropriate armor. Why is this such an unreasonable request in lieu of all the other thing everyone else here seems to demand? Some people wanted melee weapons and they got those. You're telling me my arguement for wanting a character to wear armor is more petty then the all the character request threads?

So if I want squadmates to wear actual armor it apparently goes against their artistic vision. Apparently the idea of squadmates wearing some kind of plated armor is too absurd or out-of-line? But wanting ME2 squadmates to return isn't? 

I guess I'm not a real fan as it were since I'm more interested in the setting and universe itself. Fine, whatever, if all we care about is squadmates to be "good looking" I guess that's all that really matters then.

FIght for the Ash!

[Machazareel]

iakus wrote...

KateKane wrote...

Nohvarr wrote...

KateKane wrote...

LPPrince wrote...
Maybe his Medium/Heavy Armor puts him at his best in life-or-death situations.

If Ash's light armor is just as protective, which is what we were assuming when this started, then that makes no sense.

I repeat

Kaidens armor might be special as well. It might be designed to help an L2 biotic (which are inferior) to do much more with their powers than would normally be possible. The price is reduced mobility.

There is no precendent for anything like that in either of the current games.
It strikes me as way too contrived/convenient.

It is, in fact the exact opposite of what we've seen in both games:  Biotics are typically far more lightly armored than the "pure soldiers"

He's not just a biotic, though. He's a sentinel, he uses Tech stuff as well, presumably tech armor in ME3. I seem to recall all the sentinels in ME2 being armored(visually), in addition to their tech armor. Sentinels have become a tank since ME2.

[Nohvarr]

iakus wrote...

KateKane wrote...

Nohvarr wrote...

KateKane wrote...

LPPrince wrote...
Maybe his Medium/Heavy Armor puts him at his best in life-or-death situations.

If Ash's light armor is just as protective, which is what we were assuming when this started, then that makes no sense.

I repeat

Kaidens armor might be special as well. It might be designed to help an L2 biotic (which are inferior) to do much more with their powers than would normally be possible. The price is reduced mobility.

There is no precendent for anything like that in either of the current games.
It strikes me as way too contrived/convenient.

It is, in fact the exact opposite of what we've seen in both games:  Biotics are typically far more lightly armored than the "pure soldiers"

Mass Effect 2 had armor that boosted Biotic power. If Kaiden is too keep up with the Likes of Jack, he'd need something like that. However leaving that kind of booster exposed would be dangerous, thus it could require it's own protection.

[Massadonious1]

KateKane wrote...
Your insitance that others are being irrational comes off as dismissive.

Except when it it's the truth?

I never said people couldn't have concerns, but the ones coming out right now are completely misdirected.

To somehow think that an entire character's personality could be altered by 5 SECONDS of a gameplay demo is completely irrational. And, based on those 5 seconds and a very clear bias against the style of ME2 (which is perfectly legitimate), are willing to write it in stone that this is the only outfit that she is ever going to wear, which is also completely irrational. 

And, I've said it a billion times already, but if you honestly want to be constructive, ASK for clarification about her armor. ASK if her current suit can work in space or a vaccum. But if you're just going to sit here and high five each other while you repeat the same fallacies and assumptions over and over again, then that is "criticism" that I honestly hope they ignore.

But, I already said I wasn't coming back, so you're free to have the last word. I honestly hope I'm wrong, I really do.

[jeweledleah]

Machazareel wrote...

iakus wrote...

KateKane wrote...

Nohvarr wrote...

KateKane wrote...

LPPrince wrote...
Maybe his Medium/Heavy Armor puts him at his best in life-or-death situations.

If Ash's light armor is just as protective, which is what we were assuming when this started, then that makes no sense.

I repeat

Kaidens armor might be special as well. It might be designed to help an L2 biotic (which are inferior) to do much more with their powers than would normally be possible. The price is reduced mobility.

There is no precendent for anything like that in either of the current games.
It strikes me as way too contrived/convenient.

It is, in fact the exact opposite of what we've seen in both games:  Biotics are typically far more lightly armored than the "pure soldiers"

He's not just a biotic, though. He's a sentinel, he uses Tech stuff as well, presumably tech armor in ME3. I seem to recall all the sentinels in ME2 being armored(visually), in addition to their tech armor. Sentinels have become a tank since ME2.

all the Sentinels?  you mean like Miranda?  oh wait.

[Eshaye]

iakus wrote...

And the callus, dismissive "embrace change, your opinion doesn't matter" atittude I'm seeing from the developers of all people really bothers me.

This is really what has driven me to posting here like a maniac today, it has really bothered me terribly. I don't have many concerns with the combat, the cinematics, the new characters, where the old ones are, or how the dialogue/story will be handled, but I am REALLY concerned about this topic right here. 

We don't all have the same priorities or things that bother us. I want proper helmets, suits and armor for everyone, Shepard and his squadmates. If light suits are the way to go now then I my Shepard to be able to wear one. 

That is all. 

[Predi1988]

KateKane wrote...

Nohvarr wrote...

KateKane wrote...

LPPrince wrote...
Maybe his Medium/Heavy Armor puts him at his best in life-or-death situations.

If Ash's light armor is just as protective, which is what we were assuming when this started, then that makes no sense.

I repeat

Kaidens armor might be special as well. It might be designed to help an L2 biotic (which are inferior) to do much more with their powers than would normally be possible. The price is reduced mobility.

There is no precendent for anything like that in either of the current games.
It strikes me as way too contrived/convenient.

Do you enjoy trolling? Or you just want to be a critic for living?

Okay, let's be diplomatic about it. Ashley looks this way, because she was on Shepards trial a few minutes ago. But she's a practical girls, so her casual uniform has some renforcments too.

But now i'll go to sleep because it's 2 AM at us. I wonder what page this thread will hit 'til I wake up. 120?

[LPPrince]

KateKane wrote...

LPPrince wrote...
Maybe his Medium/Heavy Armor puts him at his best in life-or-death situations.

If Ash's light armor is just as protective, which is what we were assuming when this started, then that makes no sense.

If they have two different styles of combat, it makes perfect sense.

Kaiden could be the front line soldier(Sentinel, I use soldier vaguely to mean anyone in the military) now while Ash is a stealthier soldier.

[Eshaye]

Predi1988 wrote...

Do you enjoy trolling? Or you just want to be a critic for living?

Okay, let's be diplomatic about it. Ashley looks this way, because she was on Shepards trial a few minutes ago. But she's a practical girls, so her casual uniform has some renforcments too.

But now i'll go to sleep because it's 2 AM at us. I wonder what page this thread will hit 'til I wake up. 120?

That's as much an assumption as those of us who fear that's her only look. :S

[KateKane]

Predi1988 wrote...
Okay, let's be diplomatic about it. Ashley looks this way, because she was on Shepards trial a few minutes ago. But she's a practical girls, so her casual uniform has some renforcments too.

Because this is totally a normal thing to wear to court.

[Nohvarr]

Nyoka wrote...

KateKane wrote...

Nohvarr wrote...

KateKane wrote...

LPPrince wrote...
Maybe his Medium/Heavy Armor puts him at his best in life-or-death situations.

If Ash's light armor is just as protective, which is what we were assuming when this started, then that makes no sense.

I repeat

Kaidens armor might be special as well. It might be designed to help an L2 biotic (which are inferior) to do much more with their powers than would normally be possible. The price is reduced mobility.

There is no precendent for anything like that in either of the current games.
It strikes me as way too contrived/convenient.

That's how special pleading arguments always sound like. It's entirely fallacious.

All the picture I'm posting are of armors that increased powers/biotics

[KateKane]

LPPrince wrote...

If they have two different styles of combat, it makes perfect sense.

Kaiden could be the front line soldier(Sentinel, I use soldier vaguely to mean anyone in the military) now while Ash is a stealthier soldier.

But if the lighter stuff is just as protective, then when would it matter if he were on the front lines or not?
Surely increased mobility would be preferrable regardless, if it were not a detrement to protection.

[Iakus]

Nohvarr wrote...

All the picture I'm posting are of armors that increased powers/biotics

How about the ones that boost shields and weapon damage?

[LPPrince]

Nyoka wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Kaiden could be the front line soldier(Sentinel, I use soldier vaguely to mean anyone in the military) now while Ash is a stealthier soldier.

Why? Just because?

That's what Christina Norman has said. lol ART!!!

No solid, character-based reason has been given.

Why has she changed from infantry with a boomstick to stealthy? And why did Bioware give such a lame reason? Could it be because there is no real reason?

Because she became a Spectre? Because her mindset changed in three years? Because change happens?

Jeez people. The answers aren't going to all be written out for you now and you'll certainly not get the answers with a whole 5 seconds of gameplay footage.

Everyone, no matter what side you're on-

RELAX. Take a breather. Reasons will come IN TIME.

[T41rdEye]

Holy Balls. RELAX CRAZY PEOPLE.

I don't get all this fuss about Ashley, she's dead in MY universes.

[LPPrince]

And again, you realize that Christina Norman is the Lead Gameplay Designer, right?

How about waiting for what Ashley's actual artist has to say about the matter? Or you know, someone more relevant to her aesthetic development?

[SeaSquared]

It is settled,it is time to play through ME1 AGAIN and re-romance Ash, We romanced her before, then played a different character first in ME2 and decided she was niether pretty nor nice to us...

mistakes were made... correcting....

[Jaron Oberyn]

You have to understand that Christina Norman just does things without ever thinking about it. Look at how she butchered the rpg elements in the second game. Do you think she anticipated a bunch of pissed off fanboys? She doesn't need a reason, that's her style. To her the game is about pew pew, not a meaningful story. So she could care less about the reasons behind what's going on, shooting stuff is all she's worried about in mass effect.

-Polite

[LPPrince]

SeaSquared wrote...

It is settled,it is time to play through ME1 AGAIN and re-romance Ash, We romanced her before, then played a different character first in ME2 and decided she was niether pretty nor nice to us...

mistakes were made... correcting....

Ha.

[Eshaye]

Me1mN0t wrote...

Holy Balls. RELAX CRAZY PEOPLE.

I don't get all this fuss about Ashley, she's dead in MY universes.

She's dead in mine too, I'm still concerned what this means for the rest of the squad and Shepard's armor style. I WAS worried before ME2 and then ultimately disapointed with ME2's style choices and I'm not prepared to sit idly by another time if there's still a chance for this to get resolved. 

[LPPrince]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

You have to understand that Christina Norman just does things without ever thinking about it. Look at how she butchered the rpg elements in the second game. Do you think she anticipated a bunch of pissed off fanboys? She doesn't need a reason, that's her style. To her the game is about pew pew, not a meaningful story. So she could care less about the reasons behind what's going on, shooting stuff is all she's worried about in mass effect.

-Polite

That wasn't very true to your namesake, dude.