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[RyuGuitarFreak]

Yeeaaaaaaaaahhhh, that intrigued me. But it was a nice touch anyway. :happy:

[Comsky159]

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

Honestly, given how Sheppard can take any form that the player chooses, I'm pretty sure that kid was not a piece of his imagination.

Hmm indoctrination dosen't seem logical to me but it might be true. Hope not though - It'd kind of ruin the scene for me. The word intimate won't really apply if it's just an external party messing with his head.

The problem with RPG's is that it's hard to provide personal insight into a character when people adopt so many diferent versions of them, applying their own creed and psychology. However, when, people like me play, we don't see ourselves as an embodiment Shepard (as I presume many do), but as an author of literature, working in unity with Bioware. I'm probably a little more supportive of Bioware delving into his subconsious fears and memories than most, because I'm more accepting of Shepard being a little bit more dynamic and enigmatic.

[WizenSlinky0]

If I start seeing creepy vent children everywhere I go, telling me how futile everything is, I'm going to have to play this game with the lights on. I scare easily *whistle*

[Bolboreta]

I can't say if he was an hallucination or not, but I love how we're reacting to this I'm very intrigued too.

[GnusmasTHX]

Man, that'd be cool if it was backstory related... Especially for Earthborn, somehow.

Also Shepard must've been dead the entire time.

[Oblivious]

Comsky159 wrote...

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

Honestly, given how Sheppard can take any form that the player chooses, I'm pretty sure that kid was not a piece of his imagination.

Hmm indoctrination dosen't seem logical to me but it might be true. Hope not though - It'd kind of ruin the scene for me. The word intimate won't really apply if it's just an external party messing with his head.

The problem with RPG's is that it's hard to provide personal insight into a character when people adopt so many diferent versions of them, applying their own creed and psychology. However, when, people like me play, we don't see ourselves as an embodiment Shepard (as I presume many do), but as an author of literature, working in unity with Bioware. I'm probably a little more supportive of Bioware delving into his subconsious fears and memories than most, because I'm more accepting of Shepard being a little bit more dynamic and enigmatic.

I play the same way, which is why it's easier for me to believe it's indoctrination. I wasn't among those who called "FOUL" when Shepard had jokes with Liara in LotSB and view my Shep as his own personal character, complete with emotions and vulnerabilities. I like to believe the Reapers are playing on the hopelessness ("everyone is dying") and futility ("you can't help me") that Shepard possesses somewhere inside him. Sorta like how Liara asks Shepard how he's really feeling in LotSB.

Then a week into release: "OMFGZ BIUWRE YOU SUX! MY SHEPARD DONT HAVZ FEAR ND WOULD NOT BE INDRCTINATED!!!!1!!"

[ChristianSoldier]

Its a freaking ghost/indoctrination ffs. The kid disappeared infront of shep in a split second without a sound.

DUHHHHHHHH!!!!

[No1Codename47]

Personally I think it's a mix of a hallucination and Bioware showing the true effect of this Reaper invasion. When people think of the Reaper invasion they think huge firefights, Bastard uniting the races,etc but its easy to forget about the victims. I know alot of people moaned that the Reapers werent killing fast enough after the VGA trailer but I think if we see the effects the Reapers are having - kids maybe losing their families - it'll really ram it home.

Shepard or his squad indoctrination is something I think will play a part during ME3

[Had-to-say]

Indoctrination maybe. PTSD likely.

Kelly Chambers will need to give my Shepard a back rub.

Modifié par Had-to-say, 07 juin 2011 - 08:26 .

[alexa_025]

hmm, it was weird how the kid just disappeared. I'm leaning towards hallucination, but I'm kinda hoping it wasn't an effect of indoctrination..I think it might be ptsd, personally. Or maybe the kid just had superfast ninja skills.

Modifié par alexa_025, 07 juin 2011 - 08:42 .

[Uhh.. Jonah]

Last thing the kid says: "You can't help me."
Why can't he? Suspicious.

[MrGone]

The OP is right!

The child isn't really a child!

Rather it's a midget hired to play a child! Real kids are hard to work with on set.

[Siibi]

When I first watched that scene the thought of the kid being an illusion or anything of that sort didn't come to my mind but when I read what some of you guys wrote...I think it's pretty possible..

Also This:

Uhh.. Jonah wrote...

Last thing the kid says: "You can't help me."
Why can't he? Suspicious.

That does sound suspicious 

[Phaedon]

If it is real, then it won't be exactly like than in the game, it felt way too forced and was obviously there to show that Shepard can be more emotional.

[Confused-Shepard]

The kid re-appears in Shepard's bedroom, walking slowly with glowing yellow eyes and the room starts to melt away. The kid gets closer and closer and closer. You run around looking for an escape but there is none. You turn around and he is staring right into your eyes...

[Siibi]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

The kid re-appears in Shepard's bedroom, walking slowly with glowing yellow eyes and the room starts to melt away. The kid gets closer and closer and closer. You run around looking for an escape but there is none. You turn around and he is staring right into your eyes...

then says "MAKE US WHOLE"

[No1Codename47]

I hope we do get scenes like this in the game, kids running around screaming in terror, wives cradling their dead family...scenes like that I think will make the whole Shepard leaving Earth alot more emotional when you realise what you're leaving behind../abandoning.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Comsky159 wrote...

Ever since I heard Clint Mansell was doing the soundtrack, I knew ME3 was going to do something a lot more intimate with Shepard's character. This scene was just a work of art and has particular metaphorical meaning for a player choosing the colonist background. I've always liked the classic image of a hero shaped by pain and loss, who struggled alone through despair to become exceptional and it seems like we're really getting the opportunity to see this image clearly for the first time.
Subtly and beautifully done.

Bioware, I love you.

I also love you for making a post that perfectly sums up my feelings about this brilliant little scene. Completely agree.

[Icinix]

My first thought was Awwwww...

then the second was...wait...is this indoctrination taking Shepard - giving him the sense of powerlessness, inability to help them...

My monies on the later. However, still great to see female krogans and children in the game. The face of the horror of war is usually that of children, so what better way to drive home the impact than to have them in the game - its hard to feel passionate about saving a bunch of half rendered, repeat motion silhouettes in the distance.

[Silentblaze]

I thought the child was supposed to be symbolic of being Humanity. Humanity being a small child among the rest of the galactic species whom lived thousands of years longer and are have larger populations.

Saying, "Everyone's dying," scared and confused is whats going on in every human's mind right then and there.

Shepard then offers to help him but he only says, "You can't help me," and then is gone. That showing how grim the situation is.

Not really indoctrination or any plot importance. Just a little symbolism put in by Bioware.

IMO Nicely done!

[dpixie87]

While I do think that the kid was an illusion, I'm not 100% sold on it being indoctrination. Looking back on the sheer level of sh*t that Shepard ,of any background, has been through and I'm quite frankly amazed that they haven't cracked before now.

[Corephyfish]

It was clearly a boy child, if we play it ourselves without knowing and it turns out to be a girl child with fem shep....

I think it'll be pretty obvious then.

[Oblivious]

Confused-Shepard wrote...

The kid re-appears in Shepard's bedroom, walking slowly with glowing yellow eyes and the room starts to melt away. The kid gets closer and closer and closer. You run around looking for an escape but there is none. You turn around and he is staring right into your eyes...

[Corephyfish]

Siibi wrote...

Confused-Shepard wrote...

The kid re-appears in Shepard's bedroom, walking slowly with glowing yellow eyes and the room starts to melt away. The kid gets closer and closer and closer. You run around looking for an escape but there is none. You turn around and he is staring right into your eyes...

then says "Assuming Direct Control"

Fixed that for ya.

[ME-ParaShep]

I'm not the only one who thinks that the child was a hallucination! Great! But what really gave me the impression was that Anderson didn't notice that a child was there. He didn't even act as if the child existed. Shepard must be undergoing some kind of hallucination. Due to Reapers being nearby or possibly due to the drugging that he had been going through during the events of DLC Arrival. I hope we see more of Shepard's deeper past and childhood. We need to know more of our hero before the trilogy finally ends