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[Sweetz]

I love me some Mass Effect, and I don't find $80 to be an unreasonable price for the physical retail Collector's Edition given that you're getting several physical goods with it, namely an art book, a comic book, a lithograph, and a patch.  There's a cost associated with the physical production of those things and I don't mind kicking in a bit extra.

Charging the same $80 for the Digital Deluxe Edition which only includes PDFs of the above things (sans clothing patch, which is omiited completely for obvious reasons), I find really hard to swallow as anything other than malcious consumer exploitation.  Honestly, how you can you justify charging the same price for some PDFs versus phsyical printed items?

Then there's the whole Origin thing. According to some EA twit (whoops, I mean tweet), the DDE (let's pretend someone gets a dose of sanity and adjusts the price so I'd considering buying it) will be exclusive to Origin.  Look no offense, but I hope Origin fails misaberly.  I don't really have it out for EA, but we take the idea of a publisher specific download client to it's logically extention, where every publisher has their own dedicated download service, and now I'm maintaining a dozen different logins for a dozen different game clients. 

I don't want to be doing that. That's going backwards in terms of consumer convenience.  I might as well go back swapping CDs if I'm going to be juggling 31 different flavors of online client.  Unified game clients are only convenient when they're unified!  Meaning I only want to use one and that one, naturally, is Steam.

I know it's never going to happen and I'm just verbually (er, textually I guess) pissing into the wind here, but the DDE needs to be $70, not $80, and it needs to be sold on Steam.

Modifié par Stevedroid, 07 juin 2011 - 02:55 .

[Sweetz]

Hoping this gets some attention.

[Paul Sedgmore]

I really don't get why they would limit the Digital Deluxe Edition to one store, it makes no sense

[VoidCabbage]

Im not getting the Digital Deluxe Edition but I agree with your points... so just voicing my support

[Khayness]

Digital Editions are seldomly cheaper than the retail versions, seems people are content to pay the same price.

[Captain_Obvious_au]

Well...don't buy it? EA wants it only at their store so only they can set the price, simple.

Plus the ME2 DDE is now $20, whereas you can't get physical copy any more. It's a good solution if you want the deluxe edition but don't want to pay full price.

[MJRick]

Then dont buy it.

[charmingcharlie]

Paul Sedgmore wrote...

I really don't get why they would limit the Digital Deluxe Edition to one store, it makes no sense

Nah it makes perfect sense, well for EA that is.  Basically EA wants Origin to become the new "Steam" now if you let PC gamers have a say in that kind of thing then you are going to get a rude response.  So the best way to do it is to ensure PC gamers do not have a say thus the DDE version is "exclusive" to Origin forcing PC gamers to buy it from Origin and nowhere else.

I am actually surprised that they are even going to let Steam sell the standard edition of ME 3 (and until it is up on the store I am not betting on it).  I imagine they will hold off allowing Steam to sell the game as long as possible.

I did laugh at the price of the DDE version on Origin though.  In the UK the DDE version is £55 you can buy the standard version of Mass Effect 3 for £27.  That means the DDE version is TWICE the price of the standard edition and I am pretty sure the actual content you get with the DDE version isn't twice as much.

I will have a look around for the retail Collectors Edition and may get that, if not I will get the Standard Edition if it comes to Steam.  There is no way in hell though I am paying £55 for a digital version, I am a Mass Effect fan not a mug.

[Legbiter]

I like to keep all of my games on one service so that's Steam for me. If they don't manage to lure enough people to Origin, they'll eventually throw in the towel.

[Captain_Obvious_au]

charmingcharlie wrote...

I am a Mass Effect fan not a mug.

From a lot of the responses in the ME3 Collectors Edition thread, they actually seem to mean the same thing...

Modifié par Captain_Obvious_au, 07 juin 2011 - 03:44 .

[aridor1570]

charmingcharlie wrote...

Paul Sedgmore wrote...

I really don't get why they would limit the Digital Deluxe Edition to one store, it makes no sense

Nah it makes perfect sense, well for EA that is.  Basically EA wants Origin to become the new "Steam" now if you let PC gamers have a say in that kind of thing then you are going to get a rude response.  So the best way to do it is to ensure PC gamers do not have a say thus the DDE version is "exclusive" to Origin forcing PC gamers to buy it from Origin and nowhere else.

I am actually surprised that they are even going to let Steam sell the standard edition of ME 3 (and until it is up on the store I am not betting on it).  I imagine they will hold off allowing Steam to sell the game as long as possible.

I did laugh at the price of the DDE version on Origin though.  In the UK the DDE version is £55 you can buy the standard version of Mass Effect 3 for £27.  That means the DDE version is TWICE the price of the standard edition and I am pretty sure the actual content you get with the DDE version isn't twice as much.

I will have a look around for the retail Collectors Edition and may get that, if not I will get the Standard Edition if it comes to Steam.  There is no way in hell though I am paying £55 for a digital version, I am a Mass Effect fan not a mug.

Was that confirmed? and if so, where?

[charmingcharlie]

Captain_Obvious_au wrote...  From a lot of the responses the in the ME3 Collectors Edition thread, they actually seem to mean the same thing...

Ah people have different views on "value for money" that is just life I guess.  I am not against paying £55 for a game especially one such as Mass Effect 3.  If I find the Collectors Edition in the UK then I would probably be happy to pay £50 - £55 for it, but that would have to be for the physical product with artbook and what not.  

I very rarely buy Collector Editions, but I was happy to splash out £50 for Duke Nukem Forever "Balls of Steel" Edition and I would be happy to do that for the ME3 Collectors Edition (since this will be my last Mass Effect game).  However £55 for thin air and just the "ability" to download the game ....... not in a million years will I pay £55 for that.

aridor1570 wrote...
Was that confirmed? and if so, where?

Nah nothing is confirmed with regard to ME 3 appearing on steam and I don't expect it to be confirmed till about 3 hours before the game is due to release .  It is just a logical assumption, the fact it seems to be the DDE version is only exclusive to Origin leads me to believe other DD retailers will be selling the standard edition.

Modifié par charmingcharlie, 07 juin 2011 - 03:41 .

[Ahriman]

Only poles sell games for reasonable prices nowadays. *sigh*
Anyway I absolutely don't want to have dozens of 'steams' for each publisher, that just ruins idea of itself. If they will sell at least regular edition on Steam I'll be fine though.

[Wulfram]

You would have thought that if they wanted to attract people to their store they'd be offering a better deal

[MDT1]

Wulfram wrote...

You would have thought that if they wanted to attract people to their store they'd be offering a better deal

Its EA, they usually combine a nonreflective idea with a bad execution.

[Bogsnot1]

The Origin-only version apparently has "exclusive content". They dont need to offer a better deal, because they are gambling on people being mugs and buying it for the exclusive content.
I bought the ME2 CE and got "exclusive content", only to find out the mundane release of ME2 for the PS3 came with the same content that was allegedly exclusive to the CE.
Sorry Bioware, but you're letting EA call far too many shots and its tarnishing your brand.

[Paul Sedgmore]

charmingcharlie wrote...

Paul Sedgmore wrote...

I really don't get why they would limit the Digital Deluxe Edition to one store, it makes no sense

Nah it makes perfect sense, well for EA that is.  Basically EA wants Origin to become the new "Steam" now if you let PC gamers have a say in that kind of thing then you are going to get a rude response.  So the best way to do it is to ensure PC gamers do not have a say thus the DDE version is "exclusive" to Origin forcing PC gamers to buy it from Origin and nowhere else.

I am actually surprised that they are even going to let Steam sell the standard edition of ME 3 (and until it is up on the store I am not betting on it).  I imagine they will hold off allowing Steam to sell the game as long as possible.

I did laugh at the price of the DDE version on Origin though.  In the UK the DDE version is £55 you can buy the standard version of Mass Effect 3 for £27.  That means the DDE version is TWICE the price of the standard edition and I am pretty sure the actual content you get with the DDE version isn't twice as much.

I will have a look around for the retail Collectors Edition and may get that, if not I will get the Standard Edition if it comes to Steam.  There is no way in hell though I am paying £55 for a digital version, I am a Mass Effect fan not a mug.

The problem with Origin trying to be like steam is that I can't see many publishers wanting to give another publisher a cut of the profits. Plus if they wan't to convince people that buying from origin is the better option they will have to make it more appealing. Not that this affects me as I will be buying the Xbox version like I have with the previous two games.

[AlexRmF]

I also amazed at the pricetag for the Digital Deluxe Edition,
I'm also considering buying the Collector's edition considering they have the same price

[Paul Sedgmore]

Bogsnot1 wrote...

The Origin-only version apparently has "exclusive content". They dont need to offer a better deal, because they are gambling on people being mugs and buying it for the exclusive content.
I bought the ME2 CE and got "exclusive content", only to find out the mundane release of ME2 for the PS3 came with the same content that was allegedly exclusive to the CE.
Sorry Bioware, but you're letting EA call far too many shots and its tarnishing your brand.

Did the PS3 version come with the Collector Rifle and Armour? Thats the only thing in-game I can remember being exclusive to the CE

[AngelicMachinery]

Paul Sedgmore wrote...

I really don't get why they would limit the Digital Deluxe Edition to one store, it makes no sense

They get ALL the profit from the EA store,  everywhere else they don't really even get a portion of the profits. The company selling the digital editions just pay a lump sum up front and they want the whole Digital Deluxe Prize.

[Walker White]

Steam is a publishing platform. EA is a publisher, albiet a slow, dinosaur of a publisher that missed out on the digital revolution. They have to get back into that game or die.

With that said, considering they are this late to the game, and they are really trying to build a system that competes with Steam, then it behooves them to throw some loss leaders into the mix.

[Nepenthe87]

Paul Sedgmore wrote...

I really don't get why they would limit the Digital Deluxe Edition to one store, it makes no sense

If they force you to buy from THEIR store then they get 100% of the profits. Putting it on steam means they share some profit with Valve.

To EA it's Money > customer care/loyalty.

I usually buy digital now, but since EA is doing this I think Im going to go to the brick and mortar store just out of spite.

Modifié par Nepenthe87, 07 juin 2011 - 04:18 .

[Paul Sedgmore]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Paul Sedgmore wrote...

I really don't get why they would limit the Digital Deluxe Edition to one store, it makes no sense

They get ALL the profit from the EA store,  everywhere else they don't really even get a portion of the profits. The company selling the digital editions just pay a lump sum up front and they want the whole Digital Deluxe Prize.

The way I understand it is that retailers pay for the number of licences the same as they pay for the number of units for physical copies. It would make no sense for any publisher to agree to take all of the profit for a lump sum

Nepenthe87 wrote...

If they force you to buy from THEIR store then they get 100% of the
profits. Putting it on steam means they share some profit with Valve.

To EA it's Money > customer care/loyalty.

I usually buy digital now, but since EA is doing this I think Im going to go to the brick and mortar store just out of spite.

thats the point doing it this way is more likely to put customers off than get them to buy from the EA store

Modifié par Paul Sedgmore, 07 juin 2011 - 04:21 .

[Durka531]

Well EA could offer me a life sized replica of Legion but i still won't use their online service. I'll just have to buy the disk version. Although IF you need to install origin to play the pc version well so much for that idea and and i'll just buy it for my xbox.

Modifié par Durka531, 07 juin 2011 - 04:25 .

[BulletArray]

The sweet thing with Steam is to have the whole collection under one software. I ain't gonna make a collection in a new client and i ain't gonna have two different collections. Since I started buying games on Steam I have even bought some games that I previously had bought with another service (including Dragon Age and Mass Effect 1!).

There is at the moment a service called Impulse Now or something like that. They have some nice offers sometimes aswell.. still do not buy from them just because I simply do not want to fiddle around with different programs. Like having open office, microsoft office and google docs!.

I will buy whatever version of ME3 that pops up on Steam, when it pops up on Steam.. and if it does not.. I can live without it

And to think that after the BS with Dragon Age 2, I regreted the first time I preorderd something... but thought that I would still preorder ME3 ^^ funny... ohh well.. I have preordered one other game since then.. hail to the king baby... on friday it launches =D

Modifié par iceonica, 07 juin 2011 - 04:44 .