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Heat Sink Ammo again? Crap!


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Damodar81

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Not this **** again. I loved the way ME1 handled ammo. The system in ME2 was an abomination (not to mention required serious retconning of the game lore). The new ME3 gameplay walkthrough clearly showed more heatsink pick-ups. I was under the impression that it was poorly recieved and was going to updated/removed, not kept completely intact. I hope that between now and release they go back to the ME1 system.

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Cheesy Blue

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Oh boo hoo.

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Whatever42

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Boards are split pretty evenly on ME1/ME2 systems. I think ammo was generally very well receieved so no change.

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TexasToast712

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ME1 weapon system was stupid. I love heatsinks because it adds a tactical feel to the game knowing I dont have unlimited ammo.

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hitorihanzo

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Not me, I kinda dug the Thermal clips, as opposed to *Overheat*

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Chromie

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***** more please. This was confirmed a while ago and it should stay. Clearly you didn't even read game lore if you think it's a retcon.

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Hmm, I think they'll avoid the about face on that and stick with it.

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TheBlackBaron

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Damodar81 wrote...

Not this **** again. I loved the way ME1 handled ammo. The system in ME2 was an abomination (not to mention required serious retconning of the game lore). The new ME3 gameplay walkthrough clearly showed more heatsink pick-ups. I was under the impression that it was poorly recieved and was going to updated/removed, not kept completely intact. I hope that between now and release they go back to the ME1 system.


You were under the wrong impression. 

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FluffyScarf

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Rose-tinted glasses again.

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GnusmasTHX

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I agree.

What else am I supposed to do with these paper weights aside from duct taping them to Mouse 1?

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Yep, I loved having that awesome heat mod that did insane damage, but only let me fire five shots an 'overheat' back in ME 1. Those were the days.

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Here how to describe the thermal clip system.

It's a mechanic that works. It does it's job okay, it doesn't add anything to the gameplay, it's not inherently fun nor is it well made.

Creating a new ammo system way too complicated at this point. That's why Bioware kept it.

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Mr. MannlyMan

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Naw, a hybrid system would be best, with Thermal Clips that give you a big boost like ME1's Marksman.

I do applaud the devs for not making them flash or giving them a "Oooh, here I am, HERE I AM!" effect like in ME2. But, maybe I just didn't get a good look at them?... Either way, I REALLY hope they're not made to appear THAT obvious again. Even for a shooter it was annoying. : /

In any case, I'm resigned to TCs now. I've played and seen cooldown systems that were balanced and very fun, more fun than having to manage ammo constantly, but I've accepted that Bioware's found a solution they're happy with.

In all honesty, though, the transition was handled rather sloppily.

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Damodar81

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DTKT wrote...

Here how to describe the thermal clip system.

It's a mechanic that works. It does it's job okay, it doesn't add anything to the gameplay, it's not inherently fun nor is it well made.

Creating a new ammo system way too complicated at this point. That's why Bioware kept it.


Considering that everything else was flaming (heh internet, what can you expect) this seems like the post to reply to. This is an argument I get behind and perhaps I did go a bit overboard. It IS a mechanic that works but is not really 'fun'. How about just increasing ammo stores by a certain amount, so no infinite ammo but no more pixel hunting/vaulting over cover/rubbing against cover to get that one clip. New ammo system would certainly be a minor issue and would rather they spend that dev time on better/more RPG elements.

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Mr. MannlyMan

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Soul Cool wrote...

Yep, I loved having that awesome heat mod that did insane damage, but only let me fire five shots an 'overheat' back in ME 1. Those were the days.


It wasn't hard to balance them, actually. And, all in all, it did give you more to think about than just "Which gun holds more ammo?"

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I think it would make sense if you were putting in blocks of metal... What is supposedly being launched at the enemy. Or would it be better to go to a system were the heatsinks are melting from overuse and should make the gun break down but you somehow can keep firing?

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Damodar81

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Mr. MannlyMan wrote...

Soul Cool wrote...

Yep, I loved having that awesome heat mod that did insane damage, but only let me fire five shots an 'overheat' back in ME 1. Those were the days.


It wasn't hard to balance them, actually. And, all in all, it did give you more to think about than just "Which gun holds more ammo?"


Exactly. Many of 'better' weapon had pathetic amounts of ammo. One of the pistols comes to mind, if memory serves it had something like 25-30 shots.

Modifié par Damodar81, 07 juin 2011 - 04:14 .


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Seriously...ME1 was absolutely dumb. Just use marksman and you can pummel away indefinitely. So overpowered. If that's what you want, just keep playing ME1 because ME2 requires you to fire wisely. Basically this appeals to a broader audience...and its just simply better.

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Keep the clip system, I don't care. I just wanted the UI to reflect the actuality of the gun, IE a bar built up and when it was at max, you had to pop it.

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Damodar81 wrote...

Not this **** again. I loved the way ME1 handled ammo. The system in ME2 was an abomination (not to mention required serious retconning of the game lore). The new ME3 gameplay walkthrough clearly showed more heatsink pick-ups. I was under the impression that it was poorly recieved and was going to updated/removed, not kept completely intact. I hope that between now and release they go back to the ME1 system.


What's the point of this thread. You didn't actually think there was a chance of the ME1 system coming back. You're just trying to stir up angst. 

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CroGamer002

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Thermal Clips were poorly received?

In what world are you living?

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Damodar81

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Mesina2 wrote...

Thermal Clips were poorly received?

In what world are you living?


The one where the ME2 boards were evenly split about the topic. But you go on, its always amusing to see the uninformed flail about.

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Elite Midget

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Heat Sinks and Catsuits.

Get with the times. The ones who made ME1 are dead and were replaced by evil clones.

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Damodar81

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aimlessgun wrote...
What's the point of this thread. You didn't actually think there was a chance of the ME1 system coming back. You're just trying to stir up angst


"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means"
- Princess Bride

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aimlessgun

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Keep thinking about it chief. Maybe check out dictionary.com