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[Eski.Moe]

This just brings memories of reading about the argument between two of the main devs about whether there would be more or less nations in the future, lol.

[Remus Artega]

Kronner wrote...

On an unrelated note, good to see the Czech Republic is still standing

Surprised? We were always slippery little bastards

[MDT1]

SSV Enterprise wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

I am shocked and appalled to think that noone has conquered France in 2 centuries. For shame Bioware, if you want the game to be realistic SOMEONE has to conquer France.

Why do you think the Reapers hit Europe first?

This.

But to be serious, conquering France usually didn't mean staying there for long.
The last times France was conquered it was more a side effect of the actual goals of the conqueror and not its actual goal.

Modifié par MDT1, 07 juin 2011 - 09:43 .

[CroGamer002]

Kronner wrote...

Considering that the Balkan Peninsula was always unstable, I do not see how this is surprising at all. On an unrelated note, good to see the Czech Republic is still standing

No it isn't.

We didn't had war over 10 years and no sign of having one any time soon.

And most wars on Balkan in last century were between Turkey and Greece.



Also Serbia and Montenegro war makes no sense. Both countries have great relationship for centuries and Radicals extremists in Serbia aim for Kosovo and Bosnia.

[Hathur]

Heh, I noticed it too when I watched it but was too lazy to post about it. They must've google searched quite an outdated map of Europe when they were putting that video together.

I also then just assumed "Well, it's in the future... who knows what happened." 

Modifié par Hathur, 07 juin 2011 - 10:15 .

[Oblivious]

MDT1 wrote...

SSV Enterprise wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

I am shocked and appalled to think that noone has conquered France in 2 centuries. For shame Bioware, if you want the game to be realistic SOMEONE has to conquer France.

Why do you think the Reapers hit Europe first?

This.

But to be serious, conquering France usually didn't mean staying there for long.
The last times France was conquered it was more a side effect of the actual goals of the conqueror and not its actual goal.

I doubt the Reapers even had to enter France. The French saw figures in the sky and instantly surrendered

[ChristianSoldier]

Oblivious wrote...

Randy1083 wrote...

Countries have existed for thousands of years. Why would they stop existing 170 years from now?

According to many experts humans always band together against common threats. First there were groups, then clans, then villages, then towns, then kingdoms, etc. In the event of a war between, say, Earth and Mars no country would be stupid enough to say "Nah, I think I'll just sit this one out." Similarly, when the conflict is between solar systems it would make no sense for individual planets to sit things out.

This theory has been proven time and again in history, as in 490BCE when the Greek city-states agreed to unite themselves under Athenian leadership to fight off the forces of Persia and then unite again in 480BCE under Spartan leadership.

Good argument but why didnt the chinese unite to fight against the mongols? Chinese eventually got conquered by the mongol empire.

[xIxDarkWolfxIx]

I am surprised that the Europe is still split into Nations. I want to, and expect to, see Europe become a United Federation (or some other cool name) in the next 50 years. Possibly with Russia, though that is more doubtful.
In ME I also find it hard to believe that the EU aren't a single state due to the competition of the UNS (United North-American States) and the Peoples Republic of China (Which I expect is now democratic).
The EU today is already pushing towards a single state with the introduction of a unified foreign policy and possibly development of a Europe Defence Force. Once that is completed then a single state is only a signature away, it would act very similarly to the US, which by definition is a coalition of different "nations."

[MDT1]

Oblivious wrote...
I doubt the Reapers even had to enter France. The French saw figures in the sky and instantly surrendered

And after the Reapers are defeated everyone was in the Résistance, I know I know...


But to be fair France wasn't that pushover some people claim, they just lacked of "modern" military leadership in some occasions.

[Knockenburg]

Cheesy Blue wrote...

 It's the future bro.

Hahahaha god, I wish this was the tagline for ME3.

[sponge56]

Northern Ireland is still British in ME
HUZZA!

[MDT1]

xIxDarkWolfxIx wrote...

I am surprised that the Europe is still split into Nations. I want to, and expect to, see Europe become a United Federation (or some other cool name) in the next 50 years. Possibly with Russia, though that is more doubtful.
In ME I also find it hard to believe that the EU aren't a single state due to the competition of the UNS (United North-American States) and the Peoples Republic of China (Which I expect is now democratic).
The EU today is already pushing towards a single state with the introduction of a unified foreign policy and possibly development of a Europe Defence Force. Once that is completed then a single state is only a signature away, it would act very similarly to the US, which by definition is a coalition of different "nations."

Yes but in the last years you can see national tendencies rise up again in polemic political disussions and such.
Especially we Germans terribly fail to point out the advantedges of the Union as we are the ones who profit the most of it.
The truth is that every country in the Eu can profit from it its just more difficult to explain.

[Oblivious]

ChristianSoldier wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

Randy1083 wrote...

Countries have existed for thousands of years. Why would they stop existing 170 years from now?

According to many experts humans always band together against common threats. First there were groups, then clans, then villages, then towns, then kingdoms, etc. In the event of a war between, say, Earth and Mars no country would be stupid enough to say "Nah, I think I'll just sit this one out." Similarly, when the conflict is between solar systems it would make no sense for individual planets to sit things out.

This theory has been proven time and again in history, as in 490BCE when the Greek city-states agreed to unite themselves under Athenian leadership to fight off the forces of Persia and then unite again in 480BCE under Spartan leadership.

Good argument but why didnt the chinese unite to fight against the mongols? Chinese eventually got conquered by the mongol empire.

And yet the Japanese united to hold back and defeat the mongols. Have you missed the part where I said we were all correct and arguing it logically would be futile since humans are by nature illogical?

[Homebound]

When humanity had a reason to unite as one and save itself from extinction, it didnt.
war. war never changes.

[xIxDarkWolfxIx]

sponge56 wrote...

Northern Ireland is still British in ME
HUZZA!

And so are the Scottish, they are not getting Independence on my watch. haha

[Oblivious]

MDT1 wrote...

Oblivious wrote...
I doubt the Reapers even had to enter France. The French saw figures in the sky and instantly surrendered

And after the Reapers are defeated everyone was in the Résistance, I know I know...


But to be fair France wasn't that pushover some people claim, they just lacked of "modern" military leadership in some occasions.

err... u talking about me3 or ww2?

[MDT1]

Oblivious wrote...

MDT1 wrote...

Oblivious wrote...
I doubt the Reapers even had to enter France. The French saw figures in the sky and instantly surrendered

And after the Reapers are defeated everyone was in the Résistance, I know I know...


But to be fair France wasn't that pushover some people claim, they just lacked of "modern" military leadership in some occasions.

err... u talking about me3 or ww2?

First part ME3, it was a sarcastic notion because after the occupation suddenly everybode in France claimed to have worked for the Résistance just as suddenly there where no National Socialists in Germany (or Austria ).
The second was a refference to the 1870/71-war and ww2 the two most prominent occasions the french got their image from as pushovers.

Modifié par MDT1, 07 juin 2011 - 10:47 .

[Oblivious]

Many things contributed to France's current image, the least of which not being that they disposed of their greatest leader (Napoleon Bonaparte) and sold their most iconic warrior to the English (Joan de Arc) and has only grown with repeated mistakes and foolishness on the part of France, such as letting **** Germany grow in strength and losing control over their colonies in Asia.

EDIT: lol just saw your edit. It is true, when the threat passed even the cowards claim to be heroes

Modifié par Oblivious, 07 juin 2011 - 10:47 .

[MDT1]

luk4s3d wrote...

ohbobsagetpiss wrote...

 I'm surprised Europe wouldn't just be one big nation in the future. 

Europe will NEVER be united. BELIEVE ME, i'm British, they all hate each other!

Just as the English hate the Scots?
Wouldn't be that sure.
Once the "expansion" is over things have a chance to settle down.
You should not forget that a big part of the today Union was the enemy just 22 years ago.

Modifié par MDT1, 07 juin 2011 - 10:55 .

[Morlanwen]

Well .. maybe Europe will unite if there is a bigger threat than, let's say, facsim, or religious fanatiscm.
I still believe in human nature -I know, it's stupid °_°

[Khran1505]

Har har, the scottish and english are one. Rock on!

[Dreadstruck]

Kronner wrote...

Considering that the Balkan Peninsula was always unstable, I do not see how this is surprising at all. On an unrelated note, good to see the Czech Republic is still standing

I am actually shocked and appaled at the fact that we ain't Czechoslovakia anymore in the modern future!

[Eleinehmm]

Well, who cares really. More for us to reap

P.S Loved the universal translator subtitles in the news reports.

Modifié par Eleinehmm, 07 juin 2011 - 11:51 .

[sponge56]

MDT1 wrote...

luk4s3d wrote...

ohbobsagetpiss wrote...

 I'm surprised Europe wouldn't just be one big nation in the future. 

Europe will NEVER be united. BELIEVE ME, i'm British, they all hate each other!

Just as the English hate the Scots?
Wouldn't be that sure.
Once the "expansion" is over things have a chance to settle down.
You should not forget that a big part of the today Union was the enemy just 22 years ago.

EU wont be a superstate though, im only talking about the UK here but lots of people in the UK dislike the EU intensely. I think the UK would just get some boats to tug it out into the atlantic and away from europe if the EU became one country...