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[roundhouse007]

i figure there has to be 6 absolutely for sure squadmates, and the other 4 or so would be like, bonus squadmates, per say. As for those for sure, we have Ashley or Kaidan, Vega, and (as much as i despise the decision to make her permanent) liara. So my guess is there will be 3 more brand new characters to fill that void.

As for any other characters, i originally thought there would be 4 ME2 characters that could be recruited who may or may not be alive. Tali and Garrus, and 2 others. (my best guesses would be jack... and then either grunt or miranda) But now with this prothean dlc character the question is wether or not it is a fullly voiced/interactable character or if its like the kasumi/zaeed situation.

i think its kind of ridiculous to assume there will only be one new character(vega) and the rest are all returning. i mean, do you really want that, there needs to be variety. And its just a cop-out to have "replacements". That would just be stupid, cmon now.

[Commander Shep4rd]

So were getting more Wreavs? glad i could reload my last save before the SM and saved everyone

[TheCrakFox]

I think the level shown with Mordin would be doable without him. You'd need one of your squadmates to control the crane thingy, meaning there's only two of you to fight the Atlus mech.

Perhaps other ex squadmates will be similar, although if they are important to the story I suppose they'll need replacements.

[Thargorichiban]

You get an overwhelming sense of loss and the feeling that if you had made the right choices you wouldn't be so alone right now.

[Oblivious]

Antivenger wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

Just my guess off what I know
Vega=Infiltrator
Ashley=Soldier
Kaidan=Sentinel
Liara=Adept
Tali=Engineer
Garrus=Infiltrator

I know Bioware said that Vega isn't the Big Ben Sniper but he looks a great deal like him and Bioware has retconned their trailer before (Satele Shan in The Old Republic 2010 E3 trailer). Big Ben is using a sniper rifle and the game has a need of tech experts if Garrus, Tali, and Kaidan are dead.

How do you know James is an Infiltrator? I recall something about him being dynamic, perhaps he'll play Soldier if Kaidan is VS and Sentinel if Ash is the VS?

I'm an Infiltrator anyways. Don't need two others.

Infiltrator is the "standard" sniper class according to the ME universe and like I said I was basing him off Big Ben Sniper. It would be cool if he really did change according to who died, but that would not only play havoc with whats canon it would also be a copout on Bioware's part.

When I say canon I mean characters. Ashley is a soldier, Kaidan is a sentinel, Liara is an adept, Vega is [xxx].

[Bolboreta]

Bioware said long time ago that people with dead squadmates in ME2 would have hard times in ME3, so maybe there's no replacement.

[Dave666]

Bolboreta wrote...

Bioware said long time ago that people with dead squadmates in ME2 would have hard times in ME3, so maybe there's no replacement.

This.

[ZenJestr]

maybe temporary squaddies (that aren't protected by plot armor) become full squaddies?

[Manic Sheep]

You shouldn't get replacements for dead squadmates on your squad. They should be replaced when they have to drive the plot or the squadmate would have affected the tone/ outcome of an something (like Wrex/ Wreav)
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Modifié par Manic Sheep, 08 juin 2011 - 02:26 .

[Aoba]

Oblivious wrote...

Just my guess off what I know
Vega=Infiltrator
Ashley=Soldier
Kaidan=Sentinel
Liara=Adept
Tali=Engineer
Garrus=Infiltrator

I know Bioware said that Vega isn't the Big Ben Sniper but he looks a great deal like him and Bioware has retconned their trailer before (Satele Shan in The Old Republic 2010 E3 trailer). Big Ben is using a sniper rifle and the game has a need of tech experts if Garrus, Tali, and Kaidan are dead.

I'd really like to believe Vega is Big Ben, but I dunno. A dev only confirmed Sanders wasn't Big Ben, but he's not Sanders anymore, he's Vega. Could Bioware just be messing with our heads? I certainly wouldn't put it past them to trick us like that. They feed on our tears, after all!
 
Anyway, unless Shepard's trial takes place in London, England, then Vega's most likely not Big Ben. Now, if it's proven the Alliance soldier seen sporting a Widow rifle following alongside Shepard and Ashley in the Earth demo (never watched it myself, just saying what I've read and seen from screenshots) is not Vega, then there's still a chance Big Ben is Vega, I suppose.

We'll find out soon enough, I hope. *is still waiting patiently for some decent screenshots of the guy and a vid clip of him sniping gits or simply talking* Hm, I wonder if he'll have an accent? *mind wanders*

[KiraTsukasa]

roundhouse007 wrote...


i figure there has to be 6 absolutely for sure squadmates, and the other 4 or so would be like, bonus squadmates, per say. As for those for sure, we have Ashley or Kaidan, Vega, and (as much as i despise the decision to make her permanent) liara. So my guess is there will be 3 more brand new characters to fill that void.

As for any other characters, i originally thought there would be 4 ME2 characters that could be recruited who may or may not be alive. Tali and Garrus, and 2 others. (my best guesses would be jack... and then either grunt or miranda) But now with this prothean dlc character the question is wether or not it is a fullly voiced/interactable character or if its like the kasumi/zaeed situation.

i think its kind of ridiculous to assume there will only be one new character(vega) and the rest are all returning. i mean, do you really want that, there needs to be variety. And its just a cop-out to have "replacements". That would just be stupid, cmon now.

There is no confirmation of a Prothean DLC character. It was listed with the CE set by accident and is quite possibly a scrapped idea by now. Besides, the custodian on Ilos already said that the last of the Protheans were in hybernation in the lab and had been killed off one by one to conserve power. So the Protheans are all dead. And if the statues on Ilos and the one in Hock's vault are any indication, the Protheans looked like the Husks and I do not want something that ugly following me around. We already have Zaeed to do that.

I think we should have the ME2 squad come back, add Kaidan/Ashley, Liara, and this Vega guy and call it a day. But I'm beginning think there's going to be some sort opening sequence where half of your old team gets smashed to make room for the new people. Or Grunt is now part of clan Urdnot and gets recalled to Tuchanka for "mustering" or something and ends up being a Wrex-esque cameo, Kasumi, being the greatest theif in the galaxy, ducks out as soon as Shepard decides to turn himself in to the law, and Miranda and Jacob are imprisoned due to being Cerberus officers.

[Lieutenant Flashlight]

Dasher1010 wrote...

What if Tali, Garrus and Jack died in ME2? Do I adapt to a smaller squad or is their death handwaved? Do we get a new character in thier palce and are any Mass effect 2 squad deaths canon or is everyone alive if you didn't import?

Hopefully no one takes your dead squadmates place.

I want consequences damn it!

[Thargorichiban]

Wasn't it also previously stated that anyone who could die in ME2 wasn't integral to the plot of ME3?

That's why the love interests of ME1 were preserved to continue on to ME3 because it was planned that way. All saving ME2 members does is make things more interesting/easy for you in ME3.

[KiraTsukasa]

ACWolfe wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

Just my guess off what I know
Vega=Infiltrator
Ashley=Soldier
Kaidan=Sentinel
Liara=Adept
Tali=Engineer
Garrus=Infiltrator

I know Bioware said that Vega isn't the Big Ben Sniper but he looks a great deal like him and Bioware has retconned their trailer before (Satele Shan in The Old Republic 2010 E3 trailer). Big Ben is using a sniper rifle and the game has a need of tech experts if Garrus, Tali, and Kaidan are dead.

I'd really like to believe Vega is Big Ben, but I dunno. A dev only confirmed Sanders wasn't Big Ben, but he's not Sanders anymore, he's Vega. Could Bioware just be messing with our heads? I certainly wouldn't put it past them to trick us like that. They feed on our tears, after all!
 
Anyway, unless Shepard's trial takes place in London, England, then Vega's most likely not Big Ben. Now, if it's proven the Alliance soldier seen sporting a Widow rifle following alongside Shepard and Ashley in the Earth demo (never watched it myself, just saying what I've read and seen from screenshots) is not Vega, then there's still a chance Big Ben is Vega, I suppose.

We'll find out soon enough, I hope. *is still waiting patiently for some decent screenshots of the guy and a vid clip of him sniping gits or simply talking* Hm, I wonder if he'll have an accent? *mind wanders*

Now I'm getting confused. The description of the M-98 Widow Anti-Material Rifle states "The Widow was never designed to be carried and fired by a human. Although this modified model can be carried, no ordinary human could fire it without shattering an arm." Obviously, Shepard is no ordinary human, having been cybernetically enhanced, and Legion isn't human at all, but how is this guy special?

Modifié par KiraTsukasa, 08 juin 2011 - 02:39 .

[Iwantobelieve]

Most of character recruitment are optional, remember ?
You can do the SM with only 4-5 team mates.

[PrinceLionheart]

Antivenger wrote...

How do you know James is an Infiltrator? I recall something about him being dynamic, perhaps he'll play Soldier if Kaidan is VS and Sentinel if Ash is the VS?

That would certainly make a lot of sense.

I'm still of the belief that Garrus and Tali's roles won't be that big though unless Bioware decides to go a forces retcon route like a certain someone in DA2.

[jbblue05]

You should have at least 4 squaddies in ME3

Vega is a tank- soldier

Ash is a soldier but I think she'll be made an infiltrator

Kaidan is your Sentinel

Liara is your biotic

DLC character can be made a Sentinel or Vanguard

[Lukertin]

You don't get replacements. You lost your squadmates--you live with the damn consequences, devs have hinted at this multiple times.

If Garrus dies, there is no Garrus. You aren't going to get some random Turian who likes sniper rifles to fill his spot. You have no Garrus and when you go to Palaven the Turian Hierarchy is probably going to be like "LOL one of our best soldiers died under your command, why should we listen to you, human?"

Modifié par Lukertin, 08 juin 2011 - 03:30 .

[Phategod1]

D.Kain wrote...

And who replaces dead Shepard?

You start from scratch and Bioware points and laughs. 

[Urazz]

Waltzingbear wrote...

SkittlesKat96 wrote...

As for permanent squad mates I'm not totally sure. I think Hudson or some other dev on the forums said something along the lines of that if they are dead you just don't have that spot in your squad or something.

Not that I'd have a problem with that personally, but it would be too punishing for Bioware to pull off today if you happened to kill all of your tech experts.

There's also the 2 surviving squad members you beat ME2 with though too.  Though is it possible to beat the game with Zaeed and Kasumi and still have everyone else die or will it just end up having some other non DLC characters survive if you used those 2?

[casedawgz]

The game will have the interactive comic thing right out of the box, if you killed off most of your squad, either make a new Shepard and just set up your choices with that, or make a better import. If you really want to import that Shepard, deal with the consequences and don't complain about it when your squad is Ashley, Liara, and Vega.

(Unrelated note, every time I say Vega I keep imagining this guy running around with Shepard:




)

[Legbiter]

When you rendevouz with that human refugee flotilla instead of say, Jack, greeting you with a kiss you get some grimy refugee instead.

[Destroy Raiden_]

Hopefully with our crewmember's deaths comes a failed mission or a more difficult mission for instance say Legion died in your playthrough we know shep goes to a world that has a reaper base on it that goes crazy. Legion is driving and he most likely gave you the info on this world but sense he's dead say Tali got ahold of the info somehow instead so she drives your car and you fight off the thing its more difficult if Tali is tied up with making sure your ride isn't blown to pieces and say after you stop the chase scene you need to go into some building and explore that well Tali has to stay with the car in case the badguys show up so it's now only you and Garrus making any enemies you face inside a little harder. The mission won't be a guaranteed fail but if Tali is not a good driver she'll die out side trying to evade enemies and you'll be stuck trying to figure out a plan B. If you killed both Tali and Legion then that world will not be opened to you and whatever super weapon was on it will not be available to you and you may not win the war.

I can't think of a mission you'd fail at right now sense I'm tired but I would like the change that missions could be failed but not in a commander idiot sort of way where you can clearly see the ****** poor option to the wise option. Maybe BW could start tricking us we think this option looks really good here but turns out later in mission that wasn't such a stellar idea.

I would hate to have replacements like Wrex was as I understand it his brother was king and let shep do all the mission like you would if Wrex was in your squad. I think if you killed Wrex in ME then his brother should be there but he won't let Grunt become part of his crew and will nearly kick you off its only with some money, gifts, and luck that he allows you to search for Mordin's friend but he really wants shep gone from his world. Killing Wrex cut off you getting Grunt and clan Urvnot on your side for ME3.

Other deaths should make the world harder like killing Samara her death not only makes the world harder and more unsafe but if her purpose was to give shep sometype of stellar backup during ME3 whatever she was going to do to help him never comes about sense she is dead, no stand ins, no we can find that help with someone else, it is content not existing in the world were player kills off Samara.

Now if you think I'm being really unfair I killed Samara and Legion so I'm asking BW to screw me over for it in different ways.

Modifié par Destroy Raiden , 08 juin 2011 - 04:01 .

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

Maybe you just get a minimal party. At least three are guaranteed to be alive (Ash/Kaidan, Liara, James). Not to mention, the only way to survive the suicide mission is to have at least one other alive, so that probably makes four.

Modifié par Neverwinter_Knight77, 08 juin 2011 - 04:17 .