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[Icinix]

MrGone wrote...

Icinix wrote...

MrGone wrote...

Icinix wrote...

Yep, I can see him dying - but not in the intro.

He's a well loved character, and it would make no sense to kill him off in the intro before new players to the series have a chance to develop a fondness for him.

Ahhhh, but therein lies the rub!

Did you have a fondness for Jenkins? For wilson? No!

For a new player, Anderson will be their Wilson.

For us . . . it will be tragic!

Then I will stand on top of my soap box and declare in one loud voice 

That the choices we made don't mean squat!!!

SQUAT!! I SAY!!!

But you speak truth....it would be nice to buck the trend and NOT have the intro dude die.

Actually, you brought up another point . . .

We never get to make any choices about Anderson really, none that truly matter.

If we put him on the council, Udina still ends up next to him and still in a lot of power, with Anderson kind of resenting the role. If we don't, well then it's the opposite.

In either case, that's the ONLY choice the player makes concerning Anderson's fate. He's relatively untouched by previous player choice . . . which means he'll always be around to die AND it wouldn't feel too mean to kill him, as you never actually made too many choices as an "investment" in his character. Unlike say Garrus, who you made many, many choices concerning his fate for two whole games . . . and could still die in a rather inclorious manner at the end of ME2.

Anderson's chances are looking more grim all the time!

As sad as it is, I agree whole heartedly. Anderson is a dead man walking.

As is Shepard I believe, BioWare won't be able to help themselves and they will need to succumb to the ultimate sacrifice for the two of them, probably Hackett too.

BioWare YOU BOOSTARDS! I'm onto you *shakes fist*

In all seriousness, Anderson does fit the role beautifully for sacrificial mentor of our hero - so I'll mod him back in as a squad mate, using cut and pasted sound bytes from the previous two games. Then stick a dollar on it and see it on Steam! WOOT!

[Icinix]

Fiddles_stix wrote...

What does this mean for Udina?

Romance option.


He'll sleep his way back into power!

[Oblivious]

Fiddles_stix wrote...

What does this mean for Udina?

Duncan died becuase people loved him
Nihlus died because he was really cool
Nobody likes Udina so he'll probably be the only person who is guaranteed to survive the game. Him and the Turian Councilor

[Envor44]

It just a fresh wound, he'll be fine.

[GnusmasTHX]

Envor44 wrote...

It just a fresh wound, he'll be fine.

Yeah, I hear fresh wounds are almost never fatal. It's those stale ones you have to look out for.

Modifié par GnusmasTHX, 07 juin 2011 - 10:55 .

[ThatDancingTurian]

Fiddles_stix wrote...

What does this mean for Udina?

Hopefully by that point he was already crushed by a Reaper prong that crashed through the roof of the courtroom. He held on long enough to garble, "This is an outrage!"

[MrGone]

Fiddles_stix wrote...

What does this mean for Udina?

Sadly . . . if BioWare is being truely poignant and in the mood for some strong storytelling . . . Udina gets away scott free. He proves to be fairly useful, taking far more credit than he should, but he chose the political game and it's a relatively safe game to play if you're a rat like Udina. He doesn't make waves and it's going to save his life, while true heroes die around him. Just like in real life. It will be a bitter reminder of the nastiness of politics in relation to the common man, and very depressing.

OR

Udina is the Grima Wormtongue. He learns he's working against humanity, but too late to not seal his fate as doomed. In his last act, he perfoms a heroic deed to save the heroes, but he knows it will also cost him his life. He dies, bitter and wishing he had made the right choices sooner.

BUT

This is a video game . . . so he'll probably just turn into a sniveling lackey we can punch in the face, proving our dominance as the alpha protagonist.

[MrGone]

Oblivious wrote...

Fiddles_stix wrote...

What does this mean for Udina?

Duncan died becuase people loved him
Nihlus died because he was really cool
Nobody likes Udina so he'll probably be the only person who is guaranteed to survive the game. Him and the Turian Councilor

No . . . The Turian Councilor is going to die from an acute case of irony.

[Oblivious]

MrGone wrote...

Oblivious wrote...

Fiddles_stix wrote...

What does this mean for Udina?

Duncan died becuase people loved him
Nihlus died because he was really cool
Nobody likes Udina so he'll probably be the only person who is guaranteed to survive the game. Him and the Turian Councilor

No . . . The Turian Councilor is going to die from an acute case of irony.

Ah yes, "irony." A technique of indicating, as through character or plot development, an intention or attitude opposite to that which is actually or ostensibly stated. I thought we had dismissed these claims.

[Ausstig]

if he makes it to the ship I hope we can kick him off and say

"This is what you get for destroying the only group trying to stop the reapers just to chase some tail!"

Reap what you sow Anderson. Reap what you sow

[MrGone]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

He will die, most likely, but not as cheap as that. Not in the first mission. That would be so much wasted potential.

If David Anderson dies, you bet your ass he'll take out a Reaper or two with him. He is Ip Man to Shepard's Bruce Lee. He is Master Roshi to Shepard's Goku. There's no way he dies like some no name NPC.

Ah, but there is. May I present to you Exhibit A: Scoey. AKA - The Hero needs a personal stake in it. If his best friend goes down, then . . . this time, it's personal.

Then, there is Exhibit B: Spock. AKA - A supporting can die a semi inglorious death as long as they are saving the life of the hero.

Anderson is a supporting character who has enough importanct to motivate the character of Shepard and enough emotional resnance to motivate the player controlling Shepard.

It's perfect.

Anderson is doomed.

[WizenSlinky0]

Oh dear god I do not want to be around when the "Your choices don't matter" debate starts up if they kill Anderson, considering the choice to put him on the Council. If Udina ended up getting it anyway...well you see where I'm going with this.

[MrGone]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

I've watched every Simpsons episode there is but I can't even remember who Scoey is. He's a Jenkins, not an Anderson.

He's McBain's Partner. He's not a major character in the Simpsons. But he is a major character to McBain in The Simpsons.

Spock gets revived, same as Shepard. And how DARE you call him 'supporting', and his death 'semi inglorious'! [Fan Rage]

Fair enough about the "supporting" bit. I'm Sorry.

But yeah it was a rather inglorious end. Radiation poisoning?

C'mon. Spock should have gone down fighting!

[Icinix]

Jmalk wrote...

Nicodemus wrote...

Or maybe he gets left behind to help organise the resistance

I am John Connor and I approve this message.
If you read this message YOU ARE the resistance!

I don't know..I mean..I read the message. I don't feel any different.

Shouldn't i get some kind of goosebump feely things or something - and hear lots of epic pumping action music in the background...

..wait..brb...this has given me a game spin off idea to post in another thread.

[laudable11]

I hope Anderson will choose to stay on Earth instead of being killed off.

Sombody has to lead the resistance.

[MrGone]

laudable11 wrote...

I hope Anderson will choose to stay on Earth instead of being killed off.

Sombody has to lead the resistance.

Uhhhhh I thought Shepard was leading the resistance?

Oh wait you mean the ground forces . . .

Yeah, where do you think Hacket and all those alliance generals are going to fit in hmm?

Besides, BioWare needs to get a role for Edward James Olmos in this game so they can complete their Battlestar Gallactica voice actor hat trick. Commander Adama leads the ground forces.

[C2NLY]

Anderson 'stays behind to lead the survivors'. honestly, cant see him living long there, he is one of my favourite characters, but i cant see him surviving this one, or anybody else for that matter.

[Graceyn]

Udina is a much, much better option.  Please.

I suspect Anderson will die, but not at the beginning.

SPOILER - SPOILER - SPOILER:  (hopefully I've made it easy to skip past)





Couldn't the little boy from the air vent fulfill this role, in dramatic fashion?  He dies when his transport is blown up by a Reaper.

Modifié par Graceyn, 19 octobre 2011 - 11:24 .