As my signature shows, my choices tend to lean towards Paragon. My main reasoning is that I think thhe races would benefit from being united and working together, in the Reaper situation and beyond. So on that note, I am happy to see Mass Effect 3 have some focus on uniting the galaxy to fight the Reapers (even though we still need an x factor to really do the job)
That said, I can't help but feel the humanity first guys (who are usually Renegade) are being a bit short changed in this regard, what with Cerberus going from any-means-necessary-to-advance-humanity to let's-kill-humanity's-best-hope. And their apparent working with the Reapers
However, I still have some residual faith in Bioware, so here's how I think things could go down..
A Renegade Shepard will fight Cerberus troops as long as they are trying to kill him/her; at some point in the game we find the Illusive Man and fight out what his motives are (for his change in tactics to seeming Reaper allegiance). The Illusive Man is killed, or something happens, and a Renegade Shepard can choose to take over.
In the final battle therefore, rather than being dependant on alien allegiances, the Renegade Shepard can storm in with a Cerberus army, containing (potentially) Geth (as controlled by Overlord), various supersoldiers, Collector base technology (providing it was saved), and similar kind of things.
This would leave in the aftermath the Cerberus-happy Shepard free to pursue his humanity-first-by-any-means-necessary agenda to his heart's content, a nicely Renegade end credits
Any thoughts?
Will Cerberus live on with a Renegade Shepard?
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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 10:34
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Renegade =/= Cerberus supporter
Also, from the looks of it, Cerberus has been indoctrinated so that won't happen.
Also, from the looks of it, Cerberus has been indoctrinated so that won't happen.
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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 10:38
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Phaedon wrote...
Renegade =/= Cerberus supporter
Also, from the looks of it, Cerberus has been indoctrinated so that won't happen.
I know Renegade =/= Cerberus supporter, but Cerberus supporter (or humanity first) does mean Renegade in game.
That and my guess is that not every member of Cerberus has been indoctrinated, if anyone is it need only be the Illlusive Man. In other words, they could be turned around
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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 10:39
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That's right, you should have specified though.TobyHasEyes wrote...
I know Renegade =/= Cerberus supporter, but Cerberus supporter (or humanity first) does mean Renegade in game.
I personally think that it's the exact opposite actually. TIM made a deal with the Reapers and had them indoctrinate all of his personnel in exchange for the survival of humanity.That and my guess is that not every member of Cerberus has been indoctrinated, if anyone is it need only be the Illlusive Man. In other words, they could be turned around
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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 10:46
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Consider it specified then 
Yeh that could be possible, like Saren's brother let Turians be indoctrinated so that they would become super soldiers. Then again you would kinda hope the Illusive Man, having seen that plan blow up in their faces, would have decided on some other kind of plan..
Yeh that could be possible, like Saren's brother let Turians be indoctrinated so that they would become super soldiers. Then again you would kinda hope the Illusive Man, having seen that plan blow up in their faces, would have decided on some other kind of plan..
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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 10:46
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If TIM made a deal with the Reapers to indoctrinate all of his personnel in order to procure human safety, then why are the Reapers still attacking Earth (the human home world)? My hypothesis is that Cerberus stated by TIM that ("Strength for Cerberus is strength for humanity. Cerberus IS humanity") and by declaring that, TIM will do everything in his power to be protected against the Reapers by sharing a common purpose with the Reapers in order to safeguard the organization. TIM hopes that after the destruction of the universe is over, humanity will grow from Cerberus roots as TIM being the ruler of all humans. That's what I believe. It's very viable. There's genuine and profound truth to it because TIM deals with plenty of resources, wealth, and of course that ties in with the vast information and tech that he has as well.
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If TIM made a deal with the Reapers to indoctrinate all of his personnel in order to procure human safety, then why are the Reapers still attacking Earth (the human home world)? My hypothesis is that Cerberus stated by TIM that ("Strength for Cerberus is strength for humanity. Cerberus IS humanity") and by declaring that, TIM will do everything in his power to be protected against the Reapers by sharing a common purpose with the Reapers in order to safeguard the organization. TIM hopes that after the destruction of the universe is over, humanity will grow from Cerberus roots as TIM being the ruler of all humans. That's what I believe. It's very viable. There's genuine and profound truth to it because TIM deals with plenty of resources, wealth, and of course that ties in with the vast information and tech that he has as well.
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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 10:55
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Seems like TIM of all people would know you do NOT negotiate with Reapers. He's also a control freak I doubt he'd submit himself to indoctrination unless he was indoctrinated from the start which could make sense as there's something about his eyes in one of the comics isn't there? Where they are the result of collector tech or some such.
TIM might have a second in command that could take over if he died but I doubt it without "Youmanity first" Cerberus dies. Although Miranda could take over at the end of ME3.
TIM might have a second in command that could take over if he died but I doubt it without "Youmanity first" Cerberus dies. Although Miranda could take over at the end of ME3.
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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 10:57
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Really? TIM changes sides extremely quickly, and does ridiculously stupid things for humanity.Fiddles_stix wrote...
Seems like TIM of all people would know you do NOT negotiate with Reapers. He's also a control freak I doubt he'd submit himself to indoctrination unless he was indoctrinated from the start which could make sense as there's something about his eyes in one of the comics isn't there? Where they are the result of collector tech or some such.
TIM might have a second in command that could take over if he died but I doubt it without "Youmanity first" Cerberus dies. Although Miranda could take over at the end of ME3.
Think about it, a universe where humanity controls everything, every other race is dead, and helps the Reapers every 50,000 years. That's TIM's wet dream.
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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 11:03
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TobyHasEyes wrote...
As my signature shows . . . 'blah, blah, blah"
I'm sorry, I couldn't make it past that sentence fragment Toby (who may or MAY NOT have eyes).
I SEE NO SIGNATURE!
THEREFORE THERE IS NO FRAME OF REFERENCE!
MY HEAD A SPLODE!
Oh . . . wait. There it is.
Man. I'm tired.
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Posté 07 juin 2011 - 11:13
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That might be his dream but he has to know the Reapers would never allow it. The whole point to them coming every 50,000 years is that civilisations don't become to advanced and pose too much of a threat. TIM has to know that even if he wishes it were otherwise.Phaedon wrote...
Really? TIM changes sides extremely quickly, and does ridiculously stupid things for humanity.Fiddles_stix wrote...
Seems like TIM of all people would know you do NOT negotiate with Reapers. He's also a control freak I doubt he'd submit himself to indoctrination unless he was indoctrinated from the start which could make sense as there's something about his eyes in one of the comics isn't there? Where they are the result of collector tech or some such.
TIM might have a second in command that could take over if he died but I doubt it without "Youmanity first" Cerberus dies. Although Miranda could take over at the end of ME3.
Think about it, a universe where humanity controls everything, every other race is dead, and helps the Reapers every 50,000 years. That's TIM's wet dream.
