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[Nimander]

Sometimes, fans' reactions are strange.

It's like they want the universe to be locked in time with no change, ever. Which makes any sort of setting and story progression difficult. It's like the people who say 'OMG, you can't do that, they said in a codex entry in ME1 that you can't!' 'Uh, and we couldn't make a phone with a CPU powerful enough to duplicate computers from only a decade ago. So?'

As far as we /know/, there were no Protheans left. I have no inkling why it's so hard a stretch when they MENTION stasis chambers on Ilos, to have one come out of stasis on the Citadel or somewhere else.

[Zelnik]

All I want is confirmation. Yes it will be in the collectors edition or No it will not.

[SSJ5]

Nimander wrote...

Sometimes, fans' reactions are strange.

It's like they want the universe to be locked in time with no change, ever. Which makes any sort of setting and story progression difficult. It's like the people who say 'OMG, you can't do that, they said in a codex entry in ME1 that you can't!' 'Uh, and we couldn't make a phone with a CPU powerful enough to duplicate computers from only a decade ago. So?'

As far as we /know/, there were no Protheans left. I have no inkling why it's so hard a stretch when they MENTION stasis chambers on Ilos, to have one come out of stasis on the Citadel or somewhere else.

I recall people going all like "OMG you can't have a geth in your crew, he would be useless because they can't funcion on their own". And then Legion came along. And now he's a fan favorite.

So I'd like to see less ****ing and more faith in Bioware.

[MTN Dew Fanatic]

I don't think it would make sense for the only known living Prothean in existence to be fighting in life or death situations.

[SSJ5]

MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...

I don't think it would make sense for the only known living Prothean in existence to be fighting in life or death situations.

Well, while you make a point here's a counterargument:

1. He's the last one, and cloning him isn't possible. So ... What's the point? He'll die sooner or later.
2. He's the last one, but cloning is possible. Thus, he is no longer relevant to the survival of Prothean species.

[Thargorichiban]

MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...

I don't think it would make sense for the only known living Prothean in existence to be fighting in life or death situations.

Really? They would have no motivation whatsoever to stick it to the Reapers?

And what exactly would they do by themselves without a significantly deep enough gene pool to continue their species? They might as well go out trying to preserve their legacy by preserving teh species that can survive.

[MTN Dew Fanatic]

SSJ5 wrote...

MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...

I don't think it would make sense for the only known living Prothean in existence to be fighting in life or death situations.

Well, while you make a point here's a counterargument:

1. He's the last one, and cloning him isn't possible. So ... What's the point? He'll die sooner or later.
2. He's the last one, but cloning is possible. Thus, he is no longer relevant to the survival of Prothean species.

Then kill him and dissect his body.
What good is cloning if there is still no way to naturally reproduce.
Also, I'd think some scientists or historians would want to ask a lot of questions.

Modifié par MTN Dew Fanatic, 08 juin 2011 - 03:10 .

[Thargorichiban]

MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...

SSJ5 wrote...

MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...

I don't think it would make sense for the only known living Prothean in existence to be fighting in life or death situations.

Well, while you make a point here's a counterargument:

1. He's the last one, and cloning him isn't possible. So ... What's the point? He'll die sooner or later.
2. He's the last one, but cloning is possible. Thus, he is no longer relevant to the survival of Prothean species.

Then kill him and dissect his body.
What good is cloning if there is still no way to naturally reproduce.
Also, I'd think some scientists or historians would want to ask a lot of questions.

I believe he was arguing that the Prothean has nothing to lose and he might as well fight against the Reapers...

[PrinceLionheart]

The game isn't coming out until 9 months from now and there's already A DLC Character? That's kind of troubling actually.

[SSJ5]

MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...

SSJ5 wrote...

MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...

I don't think it would make sense for the only known living Prothean in existence to be fighting in life or death situations.

Well, while you make a point here's a counterargument:

1. He's the last one, and cloning him isn't possible. So ... What's the point? He'll die sooner or later.
2. He's the last one, but cloning is possible. Thus, he is no longer relevant to the survival of Prothean species.

Then kill him and dissect his body.
What good is cloning if there is still no way to naturally reproduce.
Also, I'd think some scientists or historians would want to ask a lot of questions.

Well, I think that fighting the Reapers is much more important that having a history class in the middle of a invasion that could erase all life. Also, cloning him can produce various individuals if you implement some of the DNA from a dead Collector. Even as heavily modifed as they are the Collectors could contain more than 90% of Prothean DNA.

Thargorichiban wrote...

I believe he was arguing that the Prothean has nothing to lose and he might as well fight against the Reapers...

Exactly.

Modifié par SSJ5, 08 juin 2011 - 03:15 .

[MTN Dew Fanatic]

Thargorichiban wrote...


I believe he was arguing that the Prothean has nothing to lose and he might as well fight against the Reapers...

A prothean with a troubled past and nothing to lose...

[Darkhour]

Shepard Lives wrote...

Evil Chris already dismissed the whole thing.

The same guy who claims DA2 wasn't rushed and is a top quality AAA game?

Sorry, but his word means nothing.  He has absolutely no problem lying to cover up a slip up.

[ace1221]

Submachiner wrote...

Does anyone remember the final mission in the Firewalker pack where we retrieve the Prothean artifact that was a large metallic like sphere. It then became smaller and has ended up in the Normandy on the table.

If Protheans will have an impact in ME3, I suspect that artifact will play a role. Perhaps for instance the Sphere is a type of suspended animation. Maybe it was a Prothean experiment and when the Protheans were attacked by the Reapers, they forgot about that Prothean in that sphere.

I've been waiting since ME1 to get a glimpse of a real and alive Prothean. So... this might be the turning point here.

Good thinking! could be a Dyson sphere (incredible amounts of space contained in a much smaller object) that the protheans created (a la Halo:Ghosts of Onyx for the halo people out thurr) to save themselves from the Reapers... Including ME1, we now have 3 of these... dont we?

[TaHol100]

Nimander wrote...

Sometimes, fans' reactions are strange.

It's like they want the universe to be locked in time with no change, ever. Which makes any sort of setting and story progression difficult. It's like the people who say 'OMG, you can't do that, they said in a codex entry in ME1 that you can't!' 'Uh, and we couldn't make a phone with a CPU powerful enough to duplicate computers from only a decade ago. So?'

As far as we /know/, there were no Protheans left. I have no inkling why it's so hard a stretch when they MENTION stasis chambers on Ilos, to have one come out of stasis on the Citadel or somewhere else.

+1. Well said.

And I think Prothean DLC would be awesome

[United_Strafes]

Im all for ridiculous squadmates Hanar ,Elcor, Prothean, Volus. One of the big Reapers as a squadmate would be cool. His power could just be kill everything.

[Quaay]

Zelnik wrote...

All I want is confirmation. Yes it will be in the collectors edition or No it will not.

I think it has to be included because people bought it under the premise that was part of what they were buying. Legally speaking, it was advertised so they have to deliver. I saved a copy of the contents I purchased. I think what Chris said about the text being a mistake was that they didn't mean to spoil the specifics. It now says it includes an additional downloadable mission and character which is just a generic non-spoilery way to say it.

[Ice Cold J]

Zimary wrote...

Thargorichiban wrote...

Zimary wrote...

Ice Cold J wrote...

Prothean squaddie = Epic FAIL in my book.

I am certain people said the same about a Geth squaddie. Legion rocks either way, and if the Prothean thing is done right, it will rock just as much. But in probably wont happen since its so risky.

Some people did indeed cry FAIL when Legion was introduced and thought until the final moments that he wasn't a squadmate no matter how much the evidence mounted.

Exactly. They probably refused to believe because everything in ME1 inffered that ALL Geth were working for the Reapers, but he was used to introduce further knowledge of the Geth as well as set up a plot point into ME3 for the Geth-Quarian conflict. Since you are dirrectly fighting the Reapers this time, I would not be surprised if the Protheans had some involvement, considering they also mounted a resistance to the same threat. It might be a squaddie, another Vigil, a weapon, a ship, a station, or just about anything else is possible as proven by Legion. Its just too early to dismiss it simply 'cause "they all dead".

I just don't like the idea of someone telling you something as more-or-less fact and then, "Oops! We lied!"

It's like reading Doestoyevski. "This is my point and this ALL points to me being right. But I lied. And here is why..."



I'd prefer a Collector squadmate. THAT would make more sense to me. And that doesn't make much to begin with.

As someone said, maybe it's not a Prothean squadmate we're getting. Maybe it's someone you meet along the way.

Someone else (sorry, don't feel like going over my last 60 posts right now) speculated that the Protheans who made the Conduit and ****ed up the Citadel's Reaper signal went deep into the heart of the Citadel and are hiding in cryo-sleep. Again, this kinda makes sense, but it would be a MAJOR "backsies" on the part of the writers, IMO.

clopin wrote...

Bioware brought the Rakatans back in KOTOR well, they could do it again.

Wait, what?

EDIT: Never mind. I looked it up.

Modifié par Ice Cold J, 08 juin 2011 - 06:13 .

[Quaay]

The scientists escaped to the Citadel where a food paste runs, Presidium lakes are full of water, and Keepers have been reprogrammed to take care of all the Citadel needs. Why wouldn't you believe they survived? Bailey and Thane tell you about kids who became duct rats and some died but others "disappear"...maybe some of them found their way to the Protheans. It's all plausible and I can't wait to see how it plays out.

Modifié par Quaay, 08 juin 2011 - 10:51 .

[Thargorichiban]

Quaay wrote...

The scientists escaped to the Citadel where a food paste runs, Presidium lakes are full of water, and Keepers have been reprogrammed to take care of all the Citadel needs. Why wouldn't you believe they survived? Bailey and Thane tell you about kids who became duct rats and some died but others "disappear"...maybe some of them found their way to the Protheans. It's all plausible and I can't wait to see how it plays out.

And I think they might have snuck to a section where this is:



Which I'm betting is the Prothean in the fetal position while in stasis.

[anaphysik]

I'm fully in support of a Prothean teammate, except for one thing: it seems like it would fit far better as a part of the main game than as an optional DLC. So, in a sense, I hope that the DLC char isn't a Prothean.... so that we can instead have a plot-integral Prothean in the main game.
(Heck, perhaps they're pulling the DLC precisely so that it can be integrated into the main plot? I would be down with that.)

[Thargorichiban]

anaphysik wrote...

I'm fully in support of a Prothean teammate, except for one thing: it seems like it would fit far better as a part of the main game than as an optional DLC. So, in a sense, I hope that the DLC char isn't a Prothean.... so that we can instead have a plot-integral Prothean in the main game.
(Heck, perhaps they're pulling the DLC precisely so that it can be integrated into the main plot? I would be down with that.)

I'm sure they're making the Prothean be like Zaeed. As long as you get a new copy of the game, you'll get him. The only ones who will be dissapointed are Gamefly users and people who buy used copies.

[Capone666]

Evil Chris once said as well, point blank that Legion would not be a companion so. Grain of salt.

[noxpanda]

Hmmm a prothean squaddie? Not overly excited by that but also not disappointed by the idea. My only concern is if he/she looks like those prothean statues all over Ilos, the ones with long tentacles down the face. If he/she does look like that, then i'm leaving them in their room in the normandy, those statues were creeeepy!

......

Well unless they were in that sphere thingy and shrunk with it, a tiny tentacled prothean may be tolerable on the creepiness scale.

[Thargorichiban]

noxpanda wrote...

Hmmm a prothean squaddie? Not overly excited by that but also not disappointed by the idea. My only concern is if he/she looks like those prothean statues all over Ilos, the ones with long tentacles down the face. If he/she does look like that, then i'm leaving them in their room in the normandy, those statues were creeeepy!

......

Well unless they were in that sphere thingy and shrunk with it, a tiny tentacled prothean may be tolerable on the creepiness scale.

Hey! Femsheps might appreciate a character with prehensile tentacles attached to their face! Just think of the romance options!

*thinks*