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[Ryzaki]

Jilinna wrote...
I can picture Kaidan having a few choice words with Vega.

Though I have a hard time picturing him throwing the first punch unless he was defending Shepards honor. However even that is a little bit farfetched because of his experience in BAat and what he did to Vyrnnus having such a profound effect on him.

If the choice words were "Don't hurt her." yeah sure but anything else...I'm pretty sure Kaidan wouldn't show any anger or jealousy. He would feel it sure but he wouldn't want it to be open because like you said the incident with Vyrnnus.

If he'd have anything to say it would probably be to Shep and Shep alone. And it would be enough to clear the air between them so he knew where he stood.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 22 novembre 2011 - 07:48 .

[Drinking Shepard]

Ryzaki wrote...

Kaidan's too laid back to throw a fit about Shep being with someone else. Heck I don't even see him as the type to try to get digs in either. He might distance himself somewhat but that would be the end of it.

In ME 1 he didn't start a fight with Liara in one scene because she's a girl. Otherwise, he would have.

[Calla S]

I doubt it. People don't realize how truly in control Kaidan is when it comes to his emotions. The only time he's ever gotten the slightest bit rough around the edges, it was on Horizon, and we're all well aware of why that happened. And it was towards Shepard, so it's not really the same thing. There's so much going on at this point in the timeline that whatever Shepard does with his or her time barely even matters in the big picture, and Kaidan's level-headed enough to see that.

And Vega's not going to pick a fight with a superior officer over a woman. Imo.

Modifié par Calla S, 22 novembre 2011 - 07:54 .

[Rebel666]

Jilinna wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I really don't picture Kaidan fighting with anyone over Shep's affections. He's not that type of guy :=/

I can picture Kaidan having a few choice words with Vega.

Though I have a hard time picturing him throwing the first punch unless he was defending Shepards honor. However even that is a little bit farfetched because of his experience in BAat and what he did to Vyrnnus having such a profound effect on him.

True and true. Kaidan would find other means instead of fighting especially since he killed Vyrnnus over one girl. I figured with tensions being so high from the recent events that it's all playing a toll on everyone... from aggression to desperation, from Kaidan breaking out of his comfort zone and James becoming too protective. I plan on further elaborating their odd behavior later on.

[Ryzaki]

Calla S wrote...

I doubt it. People don't realize how truly in control Kaidan is when it comes to his emotions. The only time he's ever gotten the slightest bit rough around the edges, it was on Horizon, and we're all well aware of why that happened. And it was towards Shepard, so it's not really the same thing. There's so much going on at this point in the timeline that whatever Shepard does with his or her time barely even matters in the big picture, and Kaidan's level-headed enough to see that.

And Vega's not going to pick a fight with a superior officer over a woman. Imo.

Really he's like a stone. I have my poor renedouche Shep thinking he's boring because he can't rile Kaidan up like he can Ash. If he has a problem he'll take it up with the source.

And Vega's way way too laid back for that if what I'm reading in the leak is going to stay in. He seems more the shrug and move on kind of guy than the start a fight type. Which really is my favorite type of character. I got enough cattiness in DA2 thanks.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 22 novembre 2011 - 08:00 .

[KPiGame]

I dunno if Vega will rip a tv off a wall around angry ass Batarians because the media bad mouthed Shep, I wouldn't put it past him to fight for Shep's love especially if the relationship bloomed that way and Kaidan threatened to interfere and rekindle the flames between him and Shepard. Just my opinion though..

[Calla S]

Ryzaki wrote...

Calla S wrote...

I doubt it. People don't realize how truly in control Kaidan is when it comes to his emotions. The only time he's ever gotten the slightest bit rough around the edges, it was on Horizon, and we're all well aware of why that happened. And it was towards Shepard, so it's not really the same thing. There's so much going on at this point in the timeline that whatever Shepard does with his or her time barely even matters in the big picture, and Kaidan's level-headed enough to see that.

And Vega's not going to pick a fight with a superior officer over a woman. Imo.

Really he's like a stone. I have my poor renedouche Shep thinking he's boring because he can't rile Kaidan up like he can Ash.

And Vega's way way too laid back for that if what I'm reading in the leak is going to stay in. He seems more the shrug and move on kind of guy than the start a fight type.

Hahah, poor renedouche Shep. That's my favorite dynamic -- the whole prodding Kaidan with a stick and trying to get him to react while he's playing you right back by doing absolutely nothing in retaliation.

Also yes yes and yes. Vega seems to respect Shepard to the point that he wouldn't get involved if he knew there was history between Shep and Kaidan. And even if he did, he wouldn't do the whole prodding thing. He's just the sort of yeah, well... okay, whatever type, and that doesn't lend itself easily towards jealousy. Especially not volatile jealousy. That's how I see him anyway. I could be completely off, but who knows.

KPiGame wrote...
I dunno if Vega will rip a tv off a wall around angry ass Batarians because the media bad mouthed Shep, I wouldn't put it past him to fight for Shep's love especially if the relationship bloomed that way and Kaidan threatened to interfere and rekindle the flames between him and Shepard. Just my opinion though..

But, see, those were batarians. And Kaidan wouldn't be bad mouthing Shepard; he'd be acting or speaking on something they shared in the past. That's hardly tv-ripping worthy.

Sorry, I just really, really loathe playing the whole jealousy thing for kicks. Squicks me out.

Modifié par Calla S, 22 novembre 2011 - 08:03 .

[ODST 3]

This may be the warmest reception a new character has gotten from knowing pretty much nothing about him. To me, he looks the most Gears Of War-esque and will be sacrificed for the sake of anyone I know better. Even Udina.

[Ryzaki]

Calla S wrote...
Hahah, poor renedouche Shep. That's my favorite dynamic -- the whole prodding Kaidan with a stick and trying to get him to react while he's playing you right back by doing absolutely nothing in retaliation.

Also yes yes and yes. Vega seems to respect Shepard to the point that he wouldn't get involved if he knew there was history between Shep and Kaidan. And even if he did, he wouldn't do the whole prodding thing. He's just the sort of yeah, well... okay, whatever type, and that doesn't lend itself easily towards jealousy. Especially not volatile jealousy. That's how I see him anyway. I could be completely off, but who knows.

I feel so bad for him too. Renedouche gets no love from Kaidan.

Same. He might ask Shep questions about it one on one but I don't see him dragging it into business not unless Kaidan did something stupid like make a scene and Kaidan wouldn't do that. Maybe he'd have a teasing quip about it if he and Kaidan are friends but it would be a teasing quip and not something malicious.

Now if you manage to ****** him off yeah I can see him punching someone in the face but defintely not a commanding officer and especially not when he's on duty. He doesn't seem the violtile insubordinate type unless it's an extreme command.

KPiGame wrote...

I dunno if Vega will rip a tv off a wall
around angry ass Batarians because the media bad mouthed Shep, I
wouldn't put it past him to fight for Shep's love especially if the
relationship bloomed that way and Kaidan threatened to interfere and
rekindle the flames between him and Shepard. Just my opinion
though..

I took that as more he was having a bad day and the Batarians badmouthing Shep and the news report was last in a long line of "shut up already.". It's not just about Shep it's about the alliance and humanity as well. He just didn't want to hear it anymore. Plus he offered to pay for the TV and gave the Batarians fair warning to sit the hell down and get over it. They just didn't listen.  Plus: He was on Omega and he was offduty and...it was Batarians. And I really don't see Kaidan threatening to interfere. Just my view though.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 22 novembre 2011 - 08:14 .

[Alarieliia]

Calla S wrote...

But, see, those were batarians. And Kaidan wouldn't be bad mouthing Shepard; he'd be acting or speaking on something they shared in the past. That's hardly tv-ripping worthy.

Sorry, I just really, really loathe playing the whole jealousy thing for kicks. Squicks me out.

 
I agree. Vega doesnt seem to be the type to go a bannanas because Kaidan showed interest in Shepard again. But should Kaidan do something to jeopardize Shepard's honor or life for that matter, then I think Vega would have a reason to go all chivalrous.

Modifié par Alarieliia, 22 novembre 2011 - 08:16 .

[KPiGame]

I dunno hard to tell everything with Vega's behaviours and reactions is all speculation and up in the air so I guess we'll find out March 6th. I'm trying to write a fanfic but it's hard with the little information we have about him still, even with the comic, I still need to get a handle of how he is and how he reacts to any situation via the video game. I took the Batarian tv situation differently because the Batarians (as far as I can recall) never mentioned anything about Shepard it was just the TV. But again everything we think now for the most part is going to be hit and miss until that game comes out. I don't like jealousy as much as the next person but for some reason when it's in a story/fanfic it makes it more interesting to me...No clue why.

[KPiGame]

Alarieliia wrote...

Calla S wrote...

But, see, those were batarians. And Kaidan wouldn't be bad mouthing Shepard; he'd be acting or speaking on something they shared in the past. That's hardly tv-ripping worthy.

Sorry, I just really, really loathe playing the whole jealousy thing for kicks. Squicks me out.

 
I agree. Vega doesnt seem to be the type to go a bannanas because Kaidan showed interest in Shepard again. But should Kaidan do something to jeopardize Shepard's honor or life for that matter, then I think Vega would have a reason to go all chivalrous.

I'm not talking just showing interest here, Sorry I'm sick:sick: right now so keeping a thought in my head is hard everything is all foggy in my head so forgive me ^^'. I'm talking like a kiss or holding her or something I dunno that ends up provoking a response from Vega, and it wouldn't be a one timer. Whatever Kaidan does that provokes Vega would be like I dunno a few times anyway. Again apologies if my thoughts are unclear. 

[Ryzaki]

...If Kaidan *was* the type to try to force himself on Shep...which he really really isn't. Shep would have him laid out in the floor in about a second. You do not touch Shep without Shep's permission. That's how you end up dead.

[FoxHound109]

Not sure about the Kaidan debate, but as far as Vega is concerned, we really know nothing. Even with the leaks, the information on him is still up in the air. Basically, Vega is right now whatever we want him to be for our fan-fiction writing. Everyone seems to have a different take on him. Mine is the angsty, serious Vega who would refuse vehemently to let anyone know what he's feeling inside.

[Ryzaki]

FoxHound109 wrote...

Not sure about the Kaidan debate, but as far as Vega is concerned, we really know nothing. Even with the leaks, the information on him is still up in the air. Basically, Vega is right now whatever we want him to be for our fan-fiction writing. Everyone seems to have a different take on him. Mine is the angsty, serious Vega who would refuse vehemently to let anyone know what he's feeling inside.

I really honestly do not want LIs that catfight over Shepard. Not unless I can airlock them. In that case they can catfight away while my Shep watches them suffocate while drinking a smoothie and trying to make some moves on Legion.

Shep's too old for that ****.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 22 novembre 2011 - 08:44 .

[sakuragrrl]

delurking for a sec. Agreeing with what Ryzaki said about Shep. Shep doesn't need anyone protecting her honor, Shep is an N7.
back to lurking.

Modifié par sakuragrrl, 22 novembre 2011 - 08:44 .

[Calla S]

Well, I mean, some of us have read the script. As far as that's concerned, I like to believe those who have are able to put their best reading comprehension skills to work and figure out what kind of character he is. Though, that is why I'm trying to be very general and haven't even so much as touched on the idea of ~romance~ itself. Then again, I find writing romance between the two before they even really know each other rather silly.

Ryzaki wrote...
I really honestly do not want LIs that catfight over Shepard. Not unless I can airlock them. In that case they can catfight away while my Shep watches them suffocate while drinking a smoothie and trying to make some moves on Legion.

Shep's too damn old for that ****.

I love you.

[Ryzaki]

sakuragrrl wrote...

delurking for a sec. ^this. Shep doesn't need anyone protecting Shep's honor, Shep is an N7.
back to lurking.

Agreed. I read a fic where Kolyat somehow was beating up on Shep who needed Thane's help so she could get away and I headdesked so hard.

It's like people forget Shep's a highly trained deadly marine and one of the best.  Taking Shep one on one is suicide most of the time. There's a reason everyone who does that ends up dead.

And no I'm not saying anyone here is doing that. It's been done though.

But mostly the "fight for her honor" thing bugs me when it's OOC. I could see Jacob being a bit catty (heck he already is in game with that cuttlebone comment) but not Kaidan.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 22 novembre 2011 - 08:53 .

[FoxHound109]

Ryzaki wrote...

FoxHound109 wrote...

Not sure about the Kaidan debate, but as far as Vega is concerned, we really know nothing. Even with the leaks, the information on him is still up in the air. Basically, Vega is right now whatever we want him to be for our fan-fiction writing. Everyone seems to have a different take on him. Mine is the angsty, serious Vega who would refuse vehemently to let anyone know what he's feeling inside.

I really honestly do not want LIs that catfight over Shepard. Not unless I can airlock them. In that case they can catfight away while my Shep watches them suffocate while drinking a smoothie and trying to make some moves on Legion.

Shep's too old for that ****.

Yeah, I agree with you in a sense. My manShep would be pretty annoyed. I play him as being decisive and if he chooses one of the characters as an L.I. then he's sticking with that character. 

[FoxHound109]

Ryzaki wrote...

Agreed. I read a fic where Kolyat somehow was beating up on Shep who needed Thane's help so she could get away and I headdesked so hard.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! Please tell me this isn't true!

[Jilinna]

Rebel666 wrote...

Jilinna wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I really don't picture Kaidan fighting with anyone over Shep's affections. He's not that type of guy :=/

I can picture Kaidan having a few choice words with Vega.

Though I have a hard time picturing him throwing the first punch unless he was defending Shepards honor. However even that is a little bit farfetched because of his experience in BAat and what he did to Vyrnnus having such a profound effect on him.

True and true. Kaidan would find other means instead of fighting especially since he killed Vyrnnus over one girl. I figured with tensions being so high from the recent events that it's all playing a toll on everyone... from aggression to desperation, from Kaidan breaking out of his comfort zone and James becoming too protective. I plan on further elaborating their odd behavior later on.

That's how I figured you were going to progress to that point. Anxiety, stress is high, the world is falling apart, no one knows if there going to make it out of the war alive. I think it would take tons of prodding and irritation to get Kaidan to that point again though.

From what I know about the leak I think he started to change slightly since Shepard's death. In ME3 if your a paragon and you push him you can even convince him to loosen up a bit more,and Renegades can get him to be more weary of aliens (correct me if I am wrong about the renegade thing). Kaidan eventually will say to the paragon Shepard that he will try, it might take awhile but he will.

There is an elevator ride with Ashely where I found a change in Kaidan evident. Ashley will ask...

Ash: "is it just me, LT, or are your abilities getting stronger?",
Kaidan: "I always held back a little when using my powers on living targets for fear of hurting someone. But after what I saw on Eden Prime, I'm not holding back anymore. Not against Saren, or the geth, or anyone."

I think right at this moment he begins to change very slightly, but it is a change non the less.

I guess in my head-canon I picture Vega being over protective a little bit of a romanced Shepard. But if it resulted into jealousy I picture it as something that had been going on for awhile until he finally acted upon it. Like the confrontation scenes in ME2, after you finished both squad mates loyalty missions, something more like a miss understanding or petty argument would result rather than a huge all out fist fight that is consensual on both sides.

Calla S wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...
I really honestly do not want LIs that catfight over Shepard. Not unless I can airlock them. In that case they can catfight away while my Shep watches them suffocate while drinking a smoothie and trying to make some moves on Legion.

Shep's too damn old for that ****.

I love you.

LOL, haha DA2 all over again between Anders & Fenris! I would pay to see what you just described actually.

May my Shepard join you? I brought  popcorn and icecream! Also can we throw EDI out the airlock too while were at it? :innocent:

EDIT: Spelling

Modifié par Jilinna, 22 novembre 2011 - 09:04 .

[Ryzaki]

FoxHound109 wrote...
Yeah, I agree with you in a sense. My manShep would be pretty annoyed. I play him as being decisive and if he chooses one of the characters as an L.I. then he's sticking with that character. 

My Sheps would all be various degrees of annoyed from slightly to  <_< *toss out airlock*

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! Please tell me this isn't true!

It is. I stared at the screen like   for a few seconds. Here's a link. It also has Shep someone having Thane's baby and Kaidan kidnapping her.

And highlight below for the segement that made my brain break even more than the rest of the fic

Thane sat in his room meditating; the glow from the drive core was
currently the only source of light that filled his small room. In the
weeks past they had arrived at the citadel because of business and
decided to stay docked for a few more weeks. It was very quiet on the
ship, to quiet. His eyes flickered open as he felt a familiar presence.
Not here specifically but in the ship. He clenched his hands and his
muscles tensed realizing who it was. Kolyat, what was his son doing here
on the Normandy? Thane shifted from his slumped position and turned in
his chair towards the door. He pursed his lips for a moment then closed
his eyes. Kolyat was in the captain's cabin, with Shepard! His Siha!
Thane gave not one more moment to think as he burst through the Life
Support doors and ran for the elevator. He could feel her fear she was
scared but, of what? He quickly punched the #1 on the elevator's keypad
as it shot him up opening its door once it arrived at the captain's
cabin. Thane rushed forward stepping into her room. What he saw twisted
his stomach into a knot. His Siha was pinned helplessly under Kolyat.
Thane knew she couldn't fight back. Drell had a denser muscle mass and
it made them heavier, with Kolyat being almost full-grown he knew any
struggle was pointless. Thane had always been careful and gentle with
his fragile Siha. Thane's hand clenched tightly into a fist. Why? Why
was his son doing this to his Siha? A tear escaped Thane's eyes as he
remembered the conversation they had on the night Kolyat had attempted
to fulfill his first assassination contract…

Uh...right. Kolyat is somehow...heavier than Shep. Nevermind the fact that Shep has a great deal of metal in her body now...nevermind the fact that Shep can pick up a KROGAN, nevermind the fact that she can shoot a gun capable of blasting holes through anti-material rifle tanks.

Nope. She's so weak she can't get Kolyat (who goes down from one punch from her by the way) off.

@Jilinna : Sure there's plenty of room.

See I can totally picture a misunderstanding (especially if Shep's the lying type and all like "I still want to be with you Kaidan." while totally macking up to Vega on the side). But not an all out fistfight.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 22 novembre 2011 - 09:29 .

[Jilinna]

Ryzaki wrote...

FoxHound109 wrote...
Yeah, I agree with you in a sense. My manShep would be pretty annoyed. I play him as being decisive and if he chooses one of the characters as an L.I. then he's sticking with that character. 

My Sheps would all be various degrees of annoyed from slightly to  <_< *toss out airlock*

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! Please tell me this isn't true!

It is. I stared at the screen like   for a few seconds.

@Jilinna : Sure there's plenty of room.

See I can totally picture a misunderstanding (especially if Shep's the lying type and all like "I still want to be with you Kaidan." while totally macking up to Vega on the side). But not an all out fistfight.

YAY! <3 *runs over to grab the snacks!*

Also *waves at Sakuragirl* Welcome to the Vega thread! *passes around the Vega cake*

Yeah I agree with that Ryzaki, if Shepard is flirting with them both than a confrontation is inevitable. Unless they do it like ME2 where the LI's tell you to either break it off with the other person or them without ever seeing a face to face confrontation with both ME2 LI's telling Shepard to choose. 

@ the fic you just posted- .... I have no words... "Siha was pinned helplessly under Kolyat. Thane knew she couldn't fight back" ..."Thane had always been careful and gentle with his fragile Siha." 

Whatttt is this?! I don't even...!? This is the women that can head butt a krogan for crying out loud! Why?
& lol and Kaidan stealing babies from Thane & Shepard! Me: ......

Modifié par Jilinna, 22 novembre 2011 - 09:56 .

[catharsisboo]

"His fragile siha"? ...FemShep? Fragile? Excuse me while I LOL myself into oblivion.

[KPiGame]

Jilinna wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

FoxHound109 wrote...
Yeah, I agree with you in a sense. My manShep would be pretty annoyed. I play him as being decisive and if he chooses one of the characters as an L.I. then he's sticking with that character. 

My Sheps would all be various degrees of annoyed from slightly to  <_< *toss out airlock*

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! Please tell me this isn't true!

It is. I stared at the screen like   for a few seconds.

@Jilinna : Sure there's plenty of room.

See I can totally picture a misunderstanding (especially if Shep's the lying type and all like "I still want to be with you Kaidan." while totally macking up to Vega on the side). But not an all out fistfight.

YAY! <3 *runs over to grab the snacks!*

Also *waves at Sakuragirl* Welcome to the Vega thread! *passes around the Vega cake*

Yeah I agree with that Ryzaki, if Shepard is flirting with them both than a confrontation is inevitable. Unless they do it like ME2 where the LI's tell you to either break it off with the other person or them without ever seeing a face to face confrontation with both ME2 LI's telling Shepard to choose. 

@ the fic you just posted- .... I have no words... "Siha was pinned helplessly under Kolyat. Thane knew she couldn't fight back" ..."Thane had always been careful and gentle with his fragile Siha." 

Whatttt is this?! I don't even...!? This is the women that can head butt a krogan for crying out loud! Why?
& lol and Kaidan stealing babies from Thane & Shepard! Me: ......

Aha...ha...ha...h....AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Oh..my g-god that's so f***ing funny x'D I'd never pull that in my fic! I know Shep doesn't need anyone to fight for her or over her she's tough ****! (or he) but lololololololololololololol that fic is just...sad xD