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[Chun Hei]

I am pretty sure Kaidan and Ashley will only be similar in certain mission cut scenes but that the conversations and in battle tactics will differ greatly. It made sense to keep their scenes and dialog similar in the Horizon scene since it was not cost effective to pay writers for two totally different scenes for two characters with very minor roles leading to the same outcome.

[KPiGame]

I hope he's straight or at least bi:) My FShep needs some good ole fashion Vega lovin'  

Modifié par KPiGame, 14 décembre 2011 - 04:08 .

[FoxHound109]

I think it's almost guaranteed that James will be romanceable for femShep. So no worries there.

For manShep though...

*Sigh*

D:

[Ryzaki]

Don't *sigh*!

[KPiGame]

FoxHound109 wrote...

I think it's almost guaranteed that James will be romanceable for femShep. So no worries there.

For manShep though...

*Sigh*

D:

:oFoxhound no sad face *hugs* I'm sure they'll make him bi so that your manShep can give Vega some proper lovin too! <3 Please cheer up 

Also how is he ' almost guaranteed' for FemShep?

Modifié par KPiGame, 14 décembre 2011 - 04:31 .

[Abispa]

It would be sad irony if he is not at least "bi." For months I've read s/s critics saying that Vega is going to be the token s/s romance for gay males, so they hope they can avoid him. Then Bioware hints that he will be important for at least some of the missions so players can't avoid him completely. Then the s/s critics complain that he better not initiate a romance with male Shepard. Meanwhile it appears that Vega has built up a s/s following that is looking forward to him as an option... and now it looks like he MAY not be available for s/s romance.

I hope he's an option. Not that I plan to romance him myself. As a Latino, I'm more than happy to have a prominent Hispanic character in ME3. Hell, as an Ashley fan, I was stunned to find out it is "common knowledge" that she is a Latina(?).

Modifié par Abispa, 14 décembre 2011 - 04:33 .

[MACharlie1]

I still say he has to be: with Kaidan potentially dead, that would give femShep two s/s no matter what and maleShep s/s only one...it would be doing ME1 all over again only this time it would have been completely avoidable and staring you blank in the face.

[Red by Full Metal Jacket]

MACharlie1 wrote...

I still say he has to be: with Kaidan potentially dead, that would give femShep two s/s no matter what and maleShep s/s only one...it would be doing ME1 all over again only this time it would have been completely avoidable and staring you blank in the face.

And if the leaks are true... *SPOILER*

Cortez can be killed off too midway through the game, leaving you with nobody.

Modifié par Red by Full Metal Jacket, 14 décembre 2011 - 05:08 .

[KPiGame]

MACharlie1 wrote...

I still say he has to be: with Kaidan potentially dead, that would give femShep two s/s no matter what and maleShep s/s only one...it would be doing ME1 all over again only this time it would have been completely avoidable and staring you blank in the face.

Ok forgive me I'm having a blonde moment but what are you saying here? That Vega has to be s/s or a FemShep option?

[MACharlie1]

KPiGame wrote...

MACharlie1 wrote...

I still say he has to be: with Kaidan potentially dead, that would give femShep two s/s no matter what and maleShep s/s only one...it would be doing ME1 all over again only this time it would have been completely avoidable and staring you blank in the face.

Ok forgive me I'm having a blonde moment but what are you saying here? That Vega has to be s/s or a FemShep option?

I'm saying he has to balance out the romances.

If we disregard any opposite sex romances...then GayFemShep can have potentially 3 romance options to choose from: Ashley, Traynor and Liara. Ash might be dead so thats two.

For men, he can only have 2 potentially love interests: Kaidan and Cortez. Kaidan might be dead so that leaves ONLY Cortez.

This is where Vega would step in to balance out Liaras romance. It'd be an unequal number even if we include opposite sex. Like I said: it'd be ME1 all over again. I think Bioware is keen to make up for that lovely blunder.

[Jimmy Fury]

I tried so hard to hide from spoilers but then James Vega pictures found me on tumblr and lured me back... Clearly I've missed important information.

Anyone willing to take pity on the guy who named Sgt. Whiskers and pm me some spoilers? pretty please:wizard:?

[Red by Full Metal Jacket]

MACharlie1 wrote...


If we disregard any opposite sex romances...then GayFemShep can have potentially 3 romance options to choose from: Ashley, Traynor and Liara. Ash might be dead so thats two.

4 If you include Kelly Chambers, actually.  And we don't know if Ash is an option so that's 3 for Female, one for Male.

Modifié par Red by Full Metal Jacket, 14 décembre 2011 - 05:33 .

[catharsisboo]

KPiGame wrote...
Also how is he ' almost guaranteed' for FemShep?{smilie}

Fem Shep has flirty dialogue with him, but male Shep's equivalent of those lines are a lot more ambiguous.

Modifié par catharsisboo, 14 décembre 2011 - 05:35 .

[Ryzaki]

Jimmy Fury wrote...

I tried so hard to hide from spoilers but then James Vega pictures found me on tumblr and lured me back... Clearly I've missed important information.

Anyone willing to take pity on the guy who named Sgt. Whiskers and pm me some spoilers? pretty please:wizard:?

The FFTSG in my sig mostly has character spoilers there aren't that many story spoilers. So feel free to join.

Modifié par Ryzaki, 14 décembre 2011 - 05:36 .

[Cuddlezarro]

after a long long hiatus I got bored(my new gaming pc died so im in skyrim withdrawl atm) and checked back here and saw all the new screenies of Vega  hmmm yummy

heres my shepards reaction to them

http://steamcommunit...733855152084819

also his reaction to finding out mordins VA has been replaced

http://steamcommunit...733855152117428

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 14 décembre 2011 - 05:45 .

[shepskisaac]

Red by Full Metal Jacket wrote...

4 If you include Kelly Chambers, actually.

Kelly absolutely counts, especially since her ME3 romance gets expanded and much more meaningul. Plus, it's another f/f romance spanning across multiple games.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 14 décembre 2011 - 05:46 .

[Dhiro]

Hi guise. I've been trying to avoid spoilers, but I've heard of a video with Vega and I was wondering if anyone has the link?

[Cuddlezarro]

Dhiro wrote...

Hi guise. I've been trying to avoid spoilers, but I've heard of a video with Vega and I was wondering if anyone has the link?

hefty intro spoilers obviously

[Jimmy Fury]

Would it be wrong to say something about Vega's milkshake bringing all the boys to the yard?

[Dhiro]

Thank you

[Cuddlezarro]

Jimmy Fury wrote...

Would it be wrong to say something about Vega's milkshake bringing all the boys to the yard?

hmmm milkshake

[FoxHound109]

Sort of. I don't want to burst bubbles, but the thing is we have to keep in mind this could go either way. It kind of sucks, but it's true.

femShep - Liara, Samantha, Kelly, and POSSIBLY Ashley. However, if Ashley is dead, that leaves Liara, Samantha, and Kelly. But the ME team still hasn't had the gonads to admit that Liara is a female, or at the very least, that her romance with femShep counts as S/S. So if we go by this possibility, that technically only leaves femShep with two options.

manShep - James, Cortez, and POSSIBLY Kaidan. The problem is that Kaidan could be dead, so that would only technically leave Cortez and James. But unfortunately, we would have to be banking on the idea here that the ME team will even be fair in the first place. Like it or not, this is the same team that already gave femShep two previous gay romances and gave manShep none, so they don't exactly have a good track record of "fairness" here. Let's not even get into the fairness of the number of S/S romances vs. the O/S romances. It's not the best thing to bank on.

Like it or not, there's a possibility that femShep just might have more S/S romance options.

We have to keep a lot of things in mind here.

************* SPOILERS AHEAD **************

Positives -

- James has a pet name for manShep, which manShep can refuse. Doesn't mean it makes him S/S, but it's a possibility. Most people working under a commanding officer would probably not give a nickname to them if the relationship was strictly profession.

- There is a possibility that the pet name is a trigger for the romances. If you don't let James call you a pet name it's probably to keep things professional, like when you tell Ashley in Mass Effect to get back in line to cut her off from trying to romance you. Meaning, that as a friend he would only call your Shep (man or fem) "Commander" and "Commander" only. It seems very likely that, as femShep, you would have to allow James to call you "Lola" in order to trigger his romance. I don't see why it would be any different for manShep. I figure that letting James call your manShep "Loco" is the equivalent of telling Kaidan or Ashley in Mass Effect not to blame themselves for the fiasco in Eden Prime (the beacon part), which triggers their romance dialogue options and whatnot.

- Most of what little romance dialogue is in the leaked scripted is gender neutral for James, which is not actually the same thing for normal conversations with him. I noticed this trend. When Shep can offer James a chance to sleep with him/her(unknown), James simply replies: "Are you flirting with me Commander?" He doesn't ever use the nicknames in this scene, which makes it gender neutral. If James was only meant for femShep and they were so close that they would have sex, then I imagine that he would be calling femShep "Lola." He doesn't say: "Are you flirting with me Lola?" He specifically says "Commander." That's an interesting bit.

- There was the whole dancing fiasco with James. I believe MACharlie said it was a sparring scene, but I don't see femShep sparring with James. Honestly, he's like...four times her size. I'm sure femShep is a tough gal and fight, but I don't know why she would think sparring James would be a good idea. Anyway, this is a possibility. They might actually be dancing together.

- The balance of L.I.'s is off for manShep and femShep if James isn't S/S.

- James knows Cortez; they're friends. Doesn't mean he's S/S, but it's possible that they had a thing in the past. They have history, that's for sure.

- Cortez makes a gay joke to James. Something or another about James "liking bears". This could be innocuous. I make gay jokes toward my straight friends like that all the time, but then again, it could also mean more. So there's that.

- The leaked script predates E3, which is when the ME team supposedly worked even further on the romances. His romance options may not have been fully written yet, or may have in fact changed since.

- James seems to have a pretty strong gay following on BSN. That counts for something, however minute. I'd argue that James probably has, thus far, the strongest gay male following of all the male characters in Mass Effect. Kaidan is probably second.

- If the ME team feels really brave, they would break stereotypes with a character like James being bisexual or gay. Furthermore, the ME teams has shown a keenness for creating characters that go against stereotypes. Examples: Miranda is a Mary Sue, but with flaws and humanity; she's the Mary Sure turned upside down. Mordin is the spiritual and moralistic scientist. Liara is the super powerful innocent little girl, and so on. So it's possible that James could be one these; specifically, he could be the hyper masculine bisexual/gay character.

- ME team said there would be no new romances, then changed their tune for S/S. Meaning that the original S/S romance could have been Kaidan (technically not a "new romance") and then they made James S/S, which would count as a "new romance."

Negatives:

- James clearly mentions he's into females in the leaked script. He specifically refers to "Asari" as "those blue beauties." So at most, he'd be bisexual. Although to be fair, it could also go the way of Anders, where he mentions Karl to male Hawke not female Hawke. This line could, IN THEORY, be specifically reserved for femShep so that femSheps can immediately know he's into their character. The line could also be triggered depending on other circumstances (i.e. the example of the pet name above; meaning he'd mention it to femShep Lola, femShep Commander, and manShep Commander, but NOT manShep Loco). This is, however, UNLIKELY. So this one belongs in the negatives.

- James gives femShep a sexual reason for the pet name he gives her ("My sister had a hot friend named 'Lola'."). He gives manShep a pet name for other reasons (calls him "Loco" because of the stunts he's pulled"). It's not obviously sexual.

- If the ME team really is making James the entry point for new players, then it'll be difficult for them to justify making him bisexual or gay other than to break a stereotype. A lot of gamers are, like or not, straight men and getting new players probably requires a character that is both cool and not "offensive" to the sensibilities of certain others who might not be too open minded.

- The leaked scripted was a rough draft, but from the trailers, a lot of the things in it seem to have made it through to the end game unscathed (the new trailer of the Thresher Maw vs. the Reaper is a good example). So things might change, but they might not.

- ME team might not at all be concerned with "fairness" in the number of L.I.s. They haven't been before, there's no reason to think they will be now.

- The "new S/S romance" could simply be referring to Cortez and Samantha."

So yeah, this could go either way. The only thing that is nearly guaranteed is that James will be romanceable by femShep. The jury is still out on his relationship with manShep.

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