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[Jazinto]

I dare to say the equal number of LIs for everyone is not a crucial matter. The ManShep+Kaiden romance was cut from Mass Effect for whatever reason. I don't want to see it retconned.
Obviously it doesn't matter what I or anyone else wants. Bioware will do what they think is best.

[FoxHound109]

I don't know why you guys think it's an impossibility that Bioware could have a completely homosexual character. Unlikely? Sure. Impossible? I've seen stranger things. Honestly, Bioware also said that male Shepard could NEVER be gay, but here we are today...

As far as Vega is concerned: I really hope he's the new romance option. I like Kaiden, but in my head, he has already grown to be a good friend and it would feel strange for my Shepard to go after him. I think my manShep would probably be more interested in someone new that he has to get to know (Vega).

[ScotGaymer]

FoxHound109 wrote...

I don't know why you guys think it's an impossibility that Bioware could have a completely homosexual character. Unlikely? Sure. Impossible? I've seen stranger things. Honestly, Bioware also said that male Shepard could NEVER be gay, but here we are today...

As far as Vega is concerned: I really hope he's the new romance option. I like Kaiden, but in my head, he has already grown to be a good friend and it would feel strange for my Shepard to go after him. I think my manShep would probably be more interested in someone new that he has to get to know (Vega).

Bioware these days look at everything in a cost versus benefit versus usage sort of way.

And some Devs have been quoted as saying that there simply wouldnt be enough usage of the content (of an exclusively homosexual character) or benefit to having an exclusively homosexual character to justify the cost of its inclusion.

Thats why i think its impossible.

[Legion_Geth]

So the we know the VA already?

[Annie_Dear]

Nope. Nothing new (I think. Feel free to prove me wrong!)

[ChaplainTappman]

I neither have a Rangerhawk nor am smuggling cantaloupes in my biceps, but I legitimately saved two kittens this morning. Does that make me Vega?

I'm genuinely interested in and intrigued by the character. I'm interested to see his as a window into the average Alliance soldier's life and mindset.

[Zakatak757]

Hopefully he isn't another badass whose sole history and story is being badass. Like Zaeed.

Do we have to rescue kittens? I WANT TO RESCUE KITTENS.

[stysiaq]

Zakatak757 wrote...

Hopefully he isn't another badass whose sole history and story is being badass. Like Zaeed.

Do we have to rescue kittens? I WANT TO RESCUE KITTENS.

ME has enough badassess already, we don't need another one.

We all know, that BioWare tends to have the same types of characters in each game (just slightly different), and I hope Vega is a 'Minsc' character, but with a kitten instead of a hamster.

Besides, the hamster IS MINE

[KawaiiKatie]

I love to find out that Vega has a sensitive streak a mile wide.

[Zakatak757]

As long as he isn't the space marine grunt guy #99134, sure, why not.

Although we could do with fewer suicidally loyal humans on the crew. Jacob/Kaidan/Ashley wait for a suicide mission and cheer "OOOH! OOOH! PICK ME!" No more of that please.

[ChaplainTappman]

Zakatak757 wrote...

Hopefully he isn't another badass whose sole history and story is being badass. Like Zaeed.

Do we have to rescue kittens? I WANT TO RESCUE KITTENS.

Yeah. I like the idea that Bioware's presenting him as someone who doesn't really understand what's going on in the big picture. I kind of forsee him being, if not outright confrontational, then questioning Shepard's decisions because he's not used to macro-level decision making.

I went to take my trash out yesterday morning and some a-hole had left two kittens in a cardboard box by the dumpster.

EDIT: Kittens!

Modifié par ChaplainTappman, 09 septembre 2011 - 10:57 .

[kumquats]

I want him cocky.
Atton 2.0 ftw!

[HogarthHughes 3]

kumquats wrote...

I want him cocky.
Atton 2.0 ftw!

Ooh and maybe we could teach him to harness his rage to become a yellow-eyed Sith!  That Jedi was just trying to confuse him by sacrificing herself!    I loved Kotor2, was great fun metagaming to corrupt just about every single member of the team.

It is kinda looking like he could be impressionable though, I wouldn't mind having another character to push towards "renegade/paragon."

[Jakedee010v2]

I wonder if his character will be better developed that Kadian in ME1.

[Inside_Joke]

Zakatak757 wrote...

As long as he isn't the space marine grunt guy #99134, sure, why not.

Although we could do with fewer suicidally loyal humans on the crew. Jacob/Kaidan/Ashley wait for a suicide mission and cheer "OOOH! OOOH! PICK ME!" No more of that please.

I ran into that space marine! In AvP ... for the billionth time.

Don't be an AvP grunt Vega. It's very, very unhealthy ...

Oh and finished:

Cartoony Vega, yay! 

[HiddenKING]

Are the kitties wearing cowboy hats and bow-ties?

[CroGamer002]

I'm back.

Should I do something with the OP or can it stay like it is but add few things I missed( fanfic, sigs, add and/or new fanart instead of old one)?

[CroGamer002]

Anything?

[Chewin]

Sure why not.

[100k]

Inside_Joke wrote...

Zakatak757 wrote...

As long as he isn't the space marine grunt guy #99134, sure, why not.

Although we could do with fewer suicidally loyal humans on the crew. Jacob/Kaidan/Ashley wait for a suicide mission and cheer "OOOH! OOOH! PICK ME!" No more of that please.

I ran into that space marine! In AvP ... for the billionth time.

Don't be an AvP grunt Vega. It's very, very unhealthy ...

Oh and finished:

Cartoony Vega, yay! 

Really excellent work!

[Inside_Joke]

HiddenKING wrote...

Are the kitties wearing cowboy hats and bow-ties?

Please tell me you made that in Reach.
Because I so want to copy you.


uhhh ...
on topic: vega vega vega kittens sniper vega.

And as for the whole romancin' deal, my thoughts are he will be. Unless shep wants to boink more aliens anyway ... There are only 2 human male LIs so ... yaaa.

But I'm also not going into the game hoping he is. I honestly don't really concern myself with LIs (if it happens, it happens). I'm more interested in Vega's headshot percentage.

and thanks 100k!

P.S.
How in the holy spaces of ... somewhere ... did we get to 64 pages based on a picture and maybe 2 sentences ...?
Magic.

Modifié par Inside_Joke, 11 septembre 2011 - 06:35 .

[Aoba]

[ Note: My apologies if this has already been brought up here. I'd like to say I have the patience to skim 60+ pages to make sure, but I'd be lying through my teeth. I'll try not to ramble too much. You know how I can get when it comes to Vega and Big Ben. ]

To the subject at hand. I'm unsure as to why I did not notice these markings on Vega's alternate appearance armour sooner. Just not as observant back then, I guess. Anyway, these markings may support two Vega-related theories of mine being 1) Vega's an Englishman, and 2) He works for the British Secret Intelligence Service aka MI6, or ME's equivalent thereof.

Hm, if I recall correctly, one of the clues Bioware gave us (this was before we knew the game was ME3) led to the SIS' official website. I'd like to think Vega was what this clue was referencing. I mean, think about it for a second. Here we have Vega who appears to be just your average, every day, nothing special, "move along, now; nothing to see here, folks!" Alliance soldier. What if he was also an MI6 working to uncover Shepard's past dealings with Cerberus? Just a thought. 

I've always liked Vega (sometimes I feel like the only one), but this... this could make him one of the coolest and most interesting squadmates ever. Picture it, your Shep's very own James Bond, but in space! Poor Vega's gonna have to fight off my Shep with a stick the size of Texas. She's got this huge thing for men in uniform, especially muscular Britons and their deliciously sexy accents. I have no idea where she gets it from.  

In my eyes, I can't picture anybody ever suspecting Vega as someone other than a plain ol' soldier, thus perfect cover achieved and no one's the wiser. ;D I can totally picture Mr. Hudson as the one given the task of misleading us by giving out not entirely truthful, but also not completely false data that is meant to divert *cough* *cough* our attention away from discovering the real reason behind having Vega as a squadmate. Hmm.

Enough of that, though; here's a cropped shot of Vega's alternate armour from the ME3's CE. I've highlighted two points of interest for your viewing pleasure.




The first thing to catch my eye was the big ol' 6. Why a 6?

Since I'm analytical by nature, I immediately went to work trying to figure out what the number might stand for. Thinking back to those clues, my brain zero'd in on the one linking to the SIS website, and then to the 6 of MI6. I could be wrong, I could be right; hell, I could be left! Only Bioware knows for sure, but for now, they're staying mum on the matter so as not to spoil the game most likely. All I can do is wait and hope I'm not too far off the mark. *really, really wants her very own James Bond in space*

Okay, to the second point of interest on Vega's armour. It appears to be a medieval knight wielding a lance as he sits atop his trusty steed. First thing I thought of was "OMG, England! Vega's English! Trailer narrator's accent is English! Big Ben's English! Why am I using exclamation points every two seconds? Goddangit, broke the cycle."

The stamp could be Vega's Coat of Arms, I suppose, or it might simply represent Vega as a warrior, or maybe he's considered to be ME3's "Knight in Shining Armour," willing to do whatever it takes to save the one he loves, whatever the danger. Sounds rather romantic, if they both make it out alive. The romantic side of this would lose its appeal if one dies or they both die, y' know? ;P 

Well, that's all I've got. Sorry if I've rambled a bit. Thoughts, concerns, cookies, cake, rain  (especially the rain! It's as dry as the Atacama Desert out there), and kittens are certainly welcome.

Modifié par ACWolfe, 12 septembre 2011 - 10:20 .

[ChaplainTappman]

@ACWolfe: An interesting theory, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't think you were reaching a bit.

Vega's Rangerhawk screams American to me. That's actually a pretty common haircut among American soldiers, especially Airborne and Ranger units (hence the name), reaching back to WW2.

The markings on the armor strike me as unit-distinctive. The knight is probably a unit symbol, like the eagle's head for the 101st Airborne. The 6 is interesting. "Six" in the US military is the radio designator for a unit's commander. So if his unit's nickname is White Knight, the commander would be "White Knight Six." It could also be a sub-unit designator; he's in 6th platoon, Bravo Company ("White Knights").

[Aoba]

Hope you lot don't mind another long as hell post with lots of Vega/Big Ben speculation (new speculation, for the most part). I'd like to think my sleuthing turned up some good stuff that finally proves Vega and Big Ben are the same person, but until Bioware confirms it, it's just speculation.

Here's hoping I don't eff up the formatting of this post. BBC code-enabled forums don't seem to like me much when I write mile long posts. *sighs* But what can y' do, eh?

---

SO, to the good stuff. I think I might've finally solved the debate of whether Big Ben is truly Vega by going over those old clues of Bioware's that were given to us from November to December of last year. You know, the clues that eventually led to the reveal of ME3?

I believe the clues still mean something, and this "something" leads me to believe Big Ben's name, profession, and squadmate status were hidden within; we just didn't have all the info back then to make sense of 'em like we do now. Leave it to Ms. Can't Leave Well Enough Alone to spend so much time investigating and then analysing stuff to death. Maker, I feel like I should be made honorary Queen of Sherlock Holmes' Fanclub after all this.

Oo, oo! Did you guys know Big Ben has a neck tattoo like Vega? At least it looks like a tattoo. It could be smudge marks, but they look way too smooth and curved. Also, I seriously doubt the marks could be natural curves/lines in the neck. I dunno, I'll let you guys be the judge.

and

Whilst my investigation may prove Vega is Big Ben, I can't prove the lad's VA as easily. Trust me, though, it's definitely Sam Worthington. Some say the nose knows, but in my case, the ears know. It's him. I'd bet $500 on it, too! Too bad I don't actually have $500 to bet. So sad.

Okay, here are some pics along with my own speculations. I won't consider this absolute proof until either a) Bioware admits to the ruse or rewards me with a lemon cookie. Mmm, lemon cookies... dangit, now, I'm hungry.


1st clue:



Speculation:

First image we see of the gruff soldier soon to be nicknamed Nigel Fishnchips/Big Ben. It's pretty obvious he'd be a squadmate. He's too awesome not to be! Besides, since many of the clues Bioware gave us were about Big Ben/Vega, seems obvious he's not just some random NPC. He's the FOCUS in the PICTURE. Means he's IMPORTANT. He's also an Englishman, and OMG, trailer narrator! He's totally narrating his own experience, so, yeah, Big Ben's a squaddie in my eyes. Excuse me whilst I squee. SQUEE! Okay, I'm good.


[ Obvious clues have always been obvious. 2nd clue: 55.845; Speculation: Mass; 3rd clue: 128.5; Speculation: Fe ]


4th clue:



Speculation:

Vega's an MI6; hell, there's even a six on his alternate appearance armour; what else could it mean?


5th clue:



Speculation:

My brain believes The Clash - The Singles album cover is referencing this scene near the end of the ME3 debut trailer.

[ Album --> Screenshot of London ]

1. military-styled font in front of a broken circle with a star inside of the circle --> 1. military gunships in front of a broken clock's face with Vega inside of the clock's face

2. checkered border around half of the album [Up and Down] --> 2. checkered border around half of the clock's face [Left and Right]

3. broken circle --> 3. broken clock's face

4. star surrounded by a broken circle, which is behind a military-styled font --> 4. Vega is surrounded by a broken clock's face, which is surrounded by military gunships

If you're wondering about the star --> Vega reference, I'll just quote from the Wiki:

Vega (α Lyr, α Lyrae, Alpha Lyrae) is the brightest star in the constellation Lyra, the fifth brightest star in the night sky and the second brightest star in the northern celestial hemisphere, after Arcturus. It is a relatively close star at only 25 light-years from Earth, and, together with Arcturus and Sirius, one of the most luminous stars in the Sun's neighborhood.

Vega has been extensively studied by astronomers, leading it to be termed "arguably the next most important star in the sky after the Sun."[8] Vega was the northern pole star around 12,000 BC and will be so again around AD 13,727 when the declination will be +86°14'. Vega was the first star other than the Sun to be photographed and the first to have its spectrum recorded.

6th clue:



Speculation:

"Sanders." Always knew something was fishy (hurr-hurr) when Vega's last name was changed; became even fishier when Mr. Hudson said Vega's name was never Sanders to begin with. It seems to me this name was given to several gaming magazine writers just so they could have something to work with until Bioware decided to let the fish out of the bag, ur, so-to-speak. Ah, the perfect red herring! I commend Bioware's ingenuity.

So, there you have it. Speculation Central. Before I take my leave, have a pic of a tattoo'd Sam Worthington (it's from the movie Avatar) in a grey shirt and a Vegaesque haircut. Oh, did I mention he's Vega's VA? I think I did, but it never hurts to mention it again.



[ EDIT: Bolded some bits to make it easier to read (I hope). ]

Modifié par ACWolfe, 13 septembre 2011 - 09:13 .

[CroGamer002]

I didn't read whole thing but Bioware confirmed long time ago Big Ben sniper is NOT James Vega.

Also tattoos look very different.